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#51
Thanatos45

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anarex wrote...

I am actually starting to think archers may have the highest potential of everything. The problem is their strengths are really not obvious. If the missing manual site is to be believed, the bonuses you receive from the master archer talent are insane. http://dragonage.gul...t.org/doku.php/

Defensive fire with master archer gives you 30 defense, as in the equivalent of 30 points of dexterity. So in fact, properly speced, archers have much higher defense potential than any other class by a long shot. Like no one else even comes close.

Also, rapid fire scales with dex. That they don't tell you this in game is criminal. According to the people who made the game, with master archer, an archer can get his haste above 100% with rapid fire. Everyone else is capped at or below 50%. So archers have the highest rate of fire if you put everything in dex.

Alot of people seem to be talking about putting points into cunning and getting lethality for archers. This seems like a huge error. Half the damage comes from dex, half the damage comes from strength (cunning with lethality). All of the attack bonus comes from dex. Your rapid fire keeps getting better with more dex (over 100% increase to rate of fire). Your defense is determined all from dex. Why on earth would you increase something other than dex?

When you increase dex as an archer you increase damage, rate of fire, defense, and attack rating. Dex does way way too much.

When you increase cunning as an archer you increase damage and armor penetration.

You will never gain more damage by raising cunning instead of dex. Its not possible.


Well, those are some things I didn't knew about yet.  Let's see how powerful Leliana with 50+ dex is going to be in my current playthrough.

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Atmosfear3

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I don't know about the rest of you guys but Leliana in my party is the master buffer/debuffer for me. Song of Courage gives a huge boost to attack/crit/damage. Her debuff shots also greatly enhances the damage my party can do.



I wish the site/tooltips would be more clear on how much cunning affects her songs but I believe it is still more useful to have higher cunning than dex.

#53
Thanatos45

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Atmosfear3 wrote...

I don't know about the rest of you guys but Leliana in my party is the master buffer/debuffer for me. Song of Courage gives a huge boost to attack/crit/damage. Her debuff shots also greatly enhances the damage my party can do.

I wish the site/tooltips would be more clear on how much cunning affects her songs but I believe it is still more useful to have higher cunning than dex.


Personally I've never liked the bard specialization, not because it can't be good but because I simply don't like to play bards. I'd rather chop off my enemies' heads instead of singing about how others chop off their enemies' heads :P So full dex it is for me this time around.

Modifié par Thanatos45, 15 décembre 2009 - 12:09 .


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Mackey18

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I personally quite like the archer though I would normally go for 2-3 tanks and 1-2 ranged units (inc. mage)

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Bryy_Miller

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Have fun trying to kill a dragon without bows.

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TheNecroFiend

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

Have fun trying to kill a dragon without bows.


lulz