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Seival, did you know lying can be detrimental to your health? You should lay off it sometime, for your own longevities sake.

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J. Reezy wrote...

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And before you will start talking about The Walking Dead - it's based on very popular comic series. An interactive-movie game, by the way. 

 
Your hypocrisy is reaching toxic levels.

>implying it wasn't toxic already

I tell myself whatever lies might help me sleep at night.

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Liamv2 wrote...

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Famous actors did awesome work in Beyond, but that have nothing to do with the game's popularity level, because QD and Sony didn't even try to advertise that fact much.


That's a bold-face lie


I think there was a trailer just for Willem Dafoe.

Edit Yeah there was 


Let's see... 230K views. Nice home video. Wait, some home videos have over several millions of views. Housewives promote themselves better than QD promote their games?... I Believe that B:TS advertisement budget was really small. I mean REALLY small.

Some other examples?

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Sevil did you forget about the wolf among us? It sold really well and is based on a relatively unknown comic book series.


So true. The game is what made me start reading them.

I actually read some of Fables before The Wolf Among Us was a thing.

With The Walking Dead it was completely the other way around though; I became a fan of the comics only after playing the game.

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Seival wrote...

Liamv2 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Seival wrote...
Famous actors did awesome work in Beyond, but that have nothing to do with the game's popularity level, because QD and Sony didn't even try to advertise that fact much.


That's a bold-face lie


I think there was a trailer just for Willem Dafoe.

Edit Yeah there was 


Let's see... 230K views. Nice home video. Wait, some home videos have over several millions of views. Housewives promote themselves better than QD promote their games?... I Believe that B:TS advertisement budget was really small. I mean REALLY small.

Some other examples?


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Seival wrote...

Liamv2 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Seival wrote...
Famous actors did awesome work in Beyond, but that have nothing to do with the game's popularity level, because QD and Sony didn't even try to advertise that fact much.


That's a bold-face lie


I think there was a trailer just for Willem Dafoe.

Edit Yeah there was 


Let's see... 230K views. Nice home video. Wait, some home videos have over several millions of views. Housewives promote themselves better than QD promote their games?... I Believe that B:TS advertisement budget was really small. I mean REALLY small.

Some other examples?

TV adverts.

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dreamgazer wrote...

Seival wrote...

Liamv2 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Seival wrote...
Famous actors did awesome work in Beyond, but that have nothing to do with the game's popularity level, because QD and Sony didn't even try to advertise that fact much.


That's a bold-face lie


I think there was a trailer just for Willem Dafoe.

Edit Yeah there was 


Let's see... 230K views. Nice home video. Wait, some home videos have over several millions of views. Housewives promote themselves better than QD promote their games?... I Believe that B:TS advertisement budget was really small. I mean REALLY small.

Some other examples?


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Oh god my sides

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Seival wrote...

Liamv2 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

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Famous actors did awesome work in Beyond, but that have nothing to do with the game's popularity level, because QD and Sony didn't even try to advertise that fact much.


That's a bold-face lie


I think there was a trailer just for Willem Dafoe.

Edit Yeah there was 


Let's see... 230K views. Nice home video. Wait, some home videos have over several millions of views. Housewives promote themselves better than QD promote their games?... I Believe that B:TS advertisement budget was really small. I mean REALLY small.

Some other examples?


That's playstations own channel how on earth is it a home video?

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Seival wrote...

Liamv2 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Seival wrote...
Famous actors did awesome work in Beyond, but that have nothing to do with the game's popularity level, because QD and Sony didn't even try to advertise that fact much.


That's a bold-face lie


I think there was a trailer just for Willem Dafoe.

Edit Yeah there was 


Let's see... 230K views. Nice home video. Wait, some home videos have over several millions of views. Housewives promote themselves better than QD promote their games?... I Believe that B:TS advertisement budget was really small. I mean REALLY small.

Some other examples?

You're robots and hamsters are on overload, Seival.
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Seival wrote...

Liamv2 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Seival wrote...
Famous actors did awesome work in Beyond, but that have nothing to do with the game's popularity level, because QD and Sony didn't even try to advertise that fact much.


That's a bold-face lie


I think there was a trailer just for Willem Dafoe.

Edit Yeah there was 


Let's see... 230K views. Nice home video. Wait, some home videos have over several millions of views. Housewives promote themselves better than QD promote their games?... I Believe that B:TS advertisement budget was really small. I mean REALLY small.

Some other examples?

That's from Playstation you dolt, not a home made video.

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Greylycantrope wrote...

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The game is heavily story-driven, but the story itself is hardly great, and is based on another well-known story.

With an entirely original cast of solid character driving the narrative and themes.

Seival wrote...
The facts that Beyond: Two Souls (1) isn't well-known,

False, Ellen Page and Willen Defoe gave the game quite the marketing advantage. Even stole some tunder from the Last of Us thanks to Jodie's appearance.

(2) isn't based on something popular and famous,

True but that means nothing, there have been plenty of games based on famous franchises that failed utterly.
-Star Trek
-Colonial Marines
-Survival instinct

There have also been plenty not based on existing franchises that have turned into major success.
-Halo
-GTA
-Assassin's Creed
-Last of Us

(3) didn't fail, and
(4) even became really profitable - is a sign of great success itself.

Way too soon to tell, at best right now it seems to be a successful niche market. Which isn't bad mind you, but don't over emphasize how great it's success is.


Like I said, TWD original character and new story was based on popular universe, which have lots of fans who were informed about the game.

Famous actors are good advertisement for movies, but for games they are not better advertisement than artists and programmers, who developed the game. Also, QD didn't advertise B:TS by famous actors much or good enough.

Games with poor advertisement budgets will never sell as much copies as GTA5. Even if they were based on something quite popular.

Halo, GTA, AC are titles with initially huge fan bases and very agressive advertisement. TLoU was promoted well, and came from very popular developer, who already made a title with huge fan base.

Yes, Time will tell how much successful B:TS eventually was.

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So your style of argument isn't to refute the points, but to pretend nobody said anything and spout off the same disproven drivel that was utterly disproven already.

Heh, Seival, Drivel. Guess your name finally makes sense now.

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

So your style of argument isn't to refute the points, but to pretend nobody said anything and spout off the same disproven drivel that was utterly disproven already.

Heh, Seival, Drivel. Guess your name finally makes sense now.

There's no way that I could possibly agree with this statement. No one famous enough has told me to yet. 

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Mr.House wrote...

Seival wrote...

Liamv2 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Seival wrote...
Famous actors did awesome work in Beyond, but that have nothing to do with the game's popularity level, because QD and Sony didn't even try to advertise that fact much.


That's a bold-face lie


I think there was a trailer just for Willem Dafoe.

Edit Yeah there was 


Let's see... 230K views. Nice home video. Wait, some home videos have over several millions of views. Housewives promote themselves better than QD promote their games?... I Believe that B:TS advertisement budget was really small. I mean REALLY small.

Some other examples?

That's from Playstation you dolt, not a home made video.


With that number of views it can be qualified only as so-so home video, sorry.

 - GTA5 official trailer. Almost 7 million views. This is what's called good advertisement.

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Like I said, TWD original character and new story was based on popular universe, which have lots of fans who were informed about the game.

It also had great word of mouth via youtube, forums and gamers who weren't familiar with the comics at all.

Famous actors are good advertisement for movies, but for games they are not better advertisement than artists and programmers, who developed the game. Also, QD didn't advertise B:TS by famous actors much or good enough.

Strange that it was mainly Ellen Page and Defoe who were feature in adverts and no the artists and programmers. That second sentence is an outright lie.

Games with poor advertisement budgets will never sell as much copies as GTA5. Even if they were based on something quite popular.

I made no mention of GTA5, but wait now it's advertisment budget that generates success? I thought it was established universes, or aritists and programmers. :wizard:

Halo, GTA, AC are titles with initially huge fan bases and very agressive advertisement. TLoU was promoted well, and came from very popular developer, who already made a title with huge fan base.

And we're just going to ignore the fact that Quantic Dream already made an impression with heavy rain and that Beyond was very heaily advertised are we?

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Seival wrote...


With that number of views it can be qualified only as so-so home video, sorry.

 - GTA5 official trailer. Almost 7 million views. This is what's called good advertisement.

I'd say that this answer is bullsh*t, but I'm pretty sure you can still sell that to people. This response is just plain idiotic. 

Modifié par Br3ad, 15 janvier 2014 - 09:09 .


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With that number of views it can be qualified only as so-so home video, sorry.

 - GTA5 official trailer. Almost 7 million views. This is what's called good advertisement.


*Gets shown legit link yet denys it*

Seems legit

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With that number of views it can be qualified only as so-so home video, sorry.

 - GTA5 official trailer. Almost 7 million views. This is what's called good advertisement.


And this video, which has more views than copies bought of BTS, advertises Ellen Page and William Defoe in the game at the end of the trailer. So, yes. They were a part of QD's main trailer and advertisement for this game.

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Seival wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Seival wrote...

Liamv2 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Seival wrote...
Famous actors did awesome work in Beyond, but that have nothing to do with the game's popularity level, because QD and Sony didn't even try to advertise that fact much.


That's a bold-face lie


I think there was a trailer just for Willem Dafoe.

Edit Yeah there was 


Let's see... 230K views. Nice home video. Wait, some home videos have over several millions of views. Housewives promote themselves better than QD promote their games?... I Believe that B:TS advertisement budget was really small. I mean REALLY small.

Some other examples?

That's from Playstation you dolt, not a home made video.


With that number of views it can be qualified only as so-so home video, sorry.

 - GTA5 official trailer. Almost 7 million views. This is what's called good advertisement.


IT IS ON PLAYSTATIONS OWN CHANNEL!! The vid has so few views because it is both short (2 mins) and gave very little new info on the game at the time. Look at the last of us or infamous second son vids on the channel if you don't belive me.

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Seival wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Seival wrote...

Liamv2 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Seival wrote...
Famous actors did awesome work in Beyond, but that have nothing to do with the game's popularity level, because QD and Sony didn't even try to advertise that fact much.


That's a bold-face lie


I think there was a trailer just for Willem Dafoe.

Edit Yeah there was 


Let's see... 230K views. Nice home video. Wait, some home videos have over several millions of views. Housewives promote themselves better than QD promote their games?... I Believe that B:TS advertisement budget was really small. I mean REALLY small.

Some other examples?

That's from Playstation you dolt, not a home made video.


With that number of views it can be qualified only as so-so home video, sorry.

 - GTA5 official trailer. Almost 7 million views. This is what's called good advertisement.


Hey guys, check out my home video of me, my company, and our wizard running from some goblins.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE8KPmBYRrA

Man, the crazy adventures me and my less then 300,000 view family can get into over the school breaks.

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 15 janvier 2014 - 09:11 .


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With that number of views it can be qualified only as so-so home video, sorry.

 - GTA5 official trailer. Almost 7 million views. This is what's called good advertisement.


*Gets shown legit link yet denys it*

Seems legit

I hope you've all learned a valuable lesson about never taking Seival seriously.

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I've learned a lesson. It's that seival is basically

A HERPA DERPA DERPITY DOOP THIS GAME LOOKS PRETTY 11/10.

Whenever they talk about anything.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

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Liamv2 wrote...

Sevil did you forget about the wolf among us? It sold really well and is based on a relatively unknown comic book series.


So true. The game is what made me start reading them.

I actually read some of Fables before The Wolf Among Us was a thing.

With The Walking Dead it was completely the other way around though; I became a fan of the comics only after playing the game.


That warm story doesn't neutralize the initial fan bases the comics' have. Fan bases that were aware of the games. Unfortunately, Beyond didn't have such fan bases. And don't tell me about Heavy Rain. It's another almost unknown game from the almost unknown developer.

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I see Seival is hosting another hamster track and field event on the BSN.

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I found the perfect game for seival to play next.

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With live actors doing actual things in game and the player in control of what the main character chooses to do, it's the perfect epitome that probably is making david cage uber jelly.

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 15 janvier 2014 - 09:24 .