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It makes sense [Normandy crash scene support thread]


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INTRODUCTION
This thread represents Normandy crash scene support, and my theory about the scene. The theory consists of two  parts: Images and FAQ. Images show main theory's clues. FAQ shows all possible questions about the theory and answers to those questions.

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FAQ part of the theory may be replenished, because more questions could be asked.

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FAQ

Q: Why do you think the scene is not some symbolical "Adam and Eve allegory"?
A: I believe that if BioWare really wanted to make a symbolical scene, they could do something like this:
http://social.biowar...ndex/12575608/1

Q: But the scene was look like happened just after the Cricible's explosion. Color of the shockwave confirms that.
A: Shockwave's color could be some long-term post-effect of Crucuble's explosion. So the scene could take place years or decades after the Battle for the Earth.

Q: Decades? But why Joker is not old then?
A: Humans live till 150 years in ME Universe, remember? 20 or 30 years will not change Joker's face a lot.

Q: Why Javik can be aboard during the scene?
A: He could change his mind about the suicide.

Q: Why Joker eyes aren't glowing inside the Normandy during the Synthesis ending before the crash?
A: Those eye glows could be visible only in some special conditions (like adept's eye glows when he uses abilities).

Q: How could the jumps be even possible? The Relays were destroyed.
A: Relays were clearly not destroyed completely, especially in the Control ending. They could be reconstructible.

Q: Jump is possible only between two working Relays, so the Relay on the other side was also reconstruced? How?
A: Yes, Relays were reconstruced on the both sides. Teams from different clusters could coordinate the process via QAC communicators, which were not harmed during the Crucible's explosion.

Q: Why making test-jumps at all if the Relays were reconstructed?
A: The Relays could not work properly just after the reconstruction. They will definitely require proper recolibration, which can't be done without test-jumps.

Q: Why not use empty and cheap ships, controlled by VIs for such tests?
A: Many of unmanned tests were clearly made before launching a full-staffed ones. But fully-staffed tests on different types of ships are also important. And the Normandy with its crew could take part in the very first full-staffed test-jump.

Q: Why fully-staffed tests are so important?
A: First of all, fully-staffed ships have different payload and profile, which affects a lot of ship's flight properties. Second, living crew members has specific physiology, which differ them from each other and animals. Some tests just have to be made with real people involved.

Q: But why not use some cheap ship with some unimportant people for the very first flight?
A: There are no unimportant people in post-Crucible age. Normandy is not just a stealth-frigate. It's very survivable and heavily upgraded ship. And the Normandy's usual crew is very skilled and well-trained to act effectively in different extremal situations. Normandy and its crew is a perfect choice for such a dangerous task.

Q: But the crew defeated the Reapers! They should retire and take money from the vids about them.
A: I think such people will never retire, and will take part in some subsequent major events. I'm sure they will volunteer for such an important test-flight.

Q: But why not keep performing unmanned flights till some acceptible level before launching full-staffed test?
A: As I said, there definitely were such unmanned flights. But the full-staffed tests are different. If everything was good during 100 unmanned flights, it doesn't guarantee that there will be no accidents in the very first full-staffed one.

Q: Why not replace usual Normandy's crew with some engineers? They will definitely do better.
A: Actually they will not. Test-flight (especially the very first one) needs a team that can act effectively in extremal situations, not scientists. Military crew is much more preferable.

Q: Then why not use some other millitary crew on the same ship?
A: Do you really believe that Liara or James will prefer to miss such an important task? Or that Dr. Chakwas will abandon her "children"?

Q: Ok, so they did it! And crashed on some unknown world... So they all died in the end?
A: The jump is possible only between two working Relays. Which means that there are enough men, resources and ships on the other side of the jump. Which means that help will come soon enough. Normandy and its crew will be saved.

Q: But you said that the jump is only possible between two working Relays. Why don't we see Relay on the other side of the jump?
A: First of all, we don't see the end of the jump in the scene. Jump part of the scene ends before the jump end. Second, jump between two not fully calibrated Relays could be not very precise. Normandy could exit the jump miles away from the Relay.

Q: Why do you think BioWare really meant the test-flight? What was the purpose of the scene?
A: First of all, scene could prove that the Relays were reconstructible. And galactic civilization will not be doomed to be separated forever, or for a very long time. Second the scene could mean that the Relays are the only way to travel between clusters fast enough. Even if galactic civilization will get rid of the Reaper tech, it will eventually lead to inventing their own mass relays. So, basically, the scene might be a proof that Mass Relays will always be a part of games, based on ME universe.

Q: Why didn't Shepard exit the Normandy after crash in case of 4000 EMS Destroy ending?
A: She could have some other important tasks on the Earth for example. Or she is just inside the Normandy, and planned to exit later.

Modifié par Seival, 14 juin 2012 - 11:54 .


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IndridColdx

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this is garbage

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IndridColdx wrote...

this is garbage


seconded.

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Leafs43

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The color of the beam following the Normandy changes depending on Shepard's choice.

It is not some test jump.

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Leafs43 wrote...

The color of the beam following the Normandy changes depending on Shepard's choice.

It is not some test jump.


^-that  

I was going to post that.  

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ArikadOdakirA

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My sides.

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Leafs43 wrote...

The color of the beam following the Normandy changes depending on Shepard's choice.

It is not some test jump.


Color may represent some Crucible explosion's long-term post-effect. So I don't think the color means anything in this scene. 

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Xellith wrote...

IndridColdx wrote...

this is garbage


seconded.


Thirded

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Seival wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

The color of the beam following the Normandy changes depending on Shepard's choice.

It is not some test jump.


Color may represent some Crucible explosion's long-term post-effect. So I don't think the color means anything in this scene. 



Joker isn't a cyborg in the Normandy scene until he exits.

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I actually like that idea. It's false, but not a bad idea.

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IndridColdx wrote...

this is garbage


You clearly didn't try to analyze the scene... And didn't even read OP most likely :)

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Sion1138 wrote...

I actually like that idea. It's false, but not a bad idea.

Yes it is.

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Tealjaker94 wrote...

Xellith wrote...

IndridColdx wrote...

this is garbage


seconded.


Thirded


Fourthed.

I'm sorry OP, it's a nice idea to make this thread and all but that scene is outright disgusting and is an insult to the ME series.

I will not accept the idea that ME turns into some cheap Adam & Eve allegory.

Modifié par Grimwick, 04 juin 2012 - 10:02 .


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How do you explain the teleporting squaddies? Or Edi stepping out in the destroy ending?

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Joe Del Toro

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I done seen some speculatin' in my time, but don't that beat all.
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IndridColdx wrote...

this is garbage


My opinion, too!

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Grimwick wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

Xellith wrote...

IndridColdx wrote...

this is garbage


seconded.


Thirded


Fourthed.

I'm sorry OP, it's a nice idea to make this thread and all but that scene is outright disgusting and is an insult to the ME series.

I will not accept the idea that ME turns into some cheap Adam & Eve allegory.


Fifthed

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ArchDuck

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That is some long reaching there.

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Grimwick wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

Xellith wrote...

IndridColdx wrote...

this is garbage


seconded.


Thirded


Fourthed.

I'm sorry OP, it's a nice idea to make this thread and all but that scene is outright disgusting and is an insult to the ME series.

I will not accept the idea that ME turns into some cheap Adam & Eve allegory.


My theory actually proves the scene is not a "cheap Adam & Eve allegory". You don't believe that crash-test was what BioWare really meant by the scene?

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So if it was some "test jump/launch" long after the actual ending. Would that mean that the crash scene suddenly made sense?

No! It would make the scene even more out of place, nonsensical and absurd!

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anorling wrote...

So if it was some "test jump/launch" long after the actual ending. Would that mean that the crash scene suddenly made sense?

No! It would make the scene even more out of place, nonsensical and absurd!



Not to mention if Shepard chose synthesis, why isn't joker a cyborg in the Normandy?

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Pottumuusi

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Is your arm a bit sore from reaching that far?

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gonna have to give this a resounding 'I don't think so, probably will be retconed'

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MarchWaltz wrote...

How do you explain the teleporting squaddies? Or Edi stepping out in the destroy ending?


There are no "teleporting squaddies" if I'm right about the scene happens much later than the Battle for Earth.

EDI stepping out in destroy is a bug (if it's really true). And we should report the bug to BioWare. 

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Didn't even read.

Nothing makes sense in the ending so quit trying to make it seem like it does.

Nonsense + more nonsense = even more nonsense