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Hulk = Bioware's Artistic Integrity

Thor = Common Sense / ME Fans / Good Story Telling

[LiarasShield]

LiarasShield wrote...

Seival wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

I'm against all three choices and the reasons why are in my second link in my signature

I hope you will change your mind after EC... Or even before EC.

Can't go on faith alone this is the reaper creator he has been having the reapers destroy organic life for aeons he has been destroying earth and most of our forces with the reapers he still is using the reapers to kill your forces in the background while you talk to him other then him being the one that made the reapers just the fact that his reapers are still killing my forces while we talk alone makes decide not to pick any of its choices that it offers or even be willing to negotiate with him because to me it is like negoating with a terroist I would never do that besides the other reasons mentioned in my link

I mean I like to think I'm a somewhat sensible person but eh maybe I'm not who knows but I just can''t do it man

[Aetas Mutuo]

Last reply is only 30 minutes ago!! This is still going? All righty then...

[D24O]

F*** this image for being a wall of text :/

Modifié par D24O, 08 juin 2012 - 05:23 .

[dorktainian]

i said a while ago, the only way the crash scene could make sense would be if they were all dead and it was a representation of heaven maybe?

[The Angry One]

dorktainian wrote...

i said a while ago, the only way the crash scene could make sense would be if they were all dead and it was a representation of heaven maybe?

I will accept this if Shepard subsequently turns up as a Prinny.

[RocketManSR2]

o Ventus wrote...

Idea for my next story.

WWII, in the year 2103. In order to stop the Taliban from annexing all of Africa's chickens, our hero, Mitchell Blumpkin, needs to travel to the Cheesecake Factory and buy all of the penguins from the Love Guru. Then, he needs to take the penguins and put them in matryoshka dolls to make them transform into Super Saiyans. At the end, Blumpkin fights Santa Christ who is the leader of the Taliban, but Santa Christ is too powerful. Suddenly, Abraham Lincoln comes back from the dead and saves the day.

It's a prequel to Wall-E.

Epic.

- At least that story had a happy ending.

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 08 juin 2012 - 06:15 .

[Seival]

SackofCat wrote...

(1) The corresponding colors could imply that the crucible had some kind of permanent effect on eezo or something peculiar to mass relay technology.

The problem with chronology exists in the scene even when it is taken at face value. How did Joker bypass the reapers, pick up your squadmates in London, bypass the reapers again, enter into ftl and have enough time to either reach the Charon relay or crash land on a jungle planet outside the Sol system all in the time it takes Shepard to walk to the control room, have a 2 brief conversations, and walk less than 100 meters?
(2) OP is assuming a longer time jump than most but a time jump is not illogical.

I have not gotten far enough in the game with Javik to comment specifically about why he can or can't be on this "test flight" without betraying his earlier intentions but I will speculate anyway.

(3) Javik's sole goal was vengeance. In the past, Javik hoped to survive the previous invasion, awake with aprox. 1 million other protheans, defeat the reapers, and then, presumably, rebuild his civilization. Once Shepard defeated the reapers, vengeance was attained. Having spent time with primitives and having fought beside the primitives as they helped him achieve his ultimate goal, Javik may have felt indebted or developed a desire to help rebuild this society. It could have been one final insult to the reapers.

(1) Exactly.
(2) I'm assuming a large time difference, like 15-20 years after the Battle for Earth.
(3) Exactly.

Thanks. It's good to see constructive replies here.

[Nesherius]

If OP was right, and it was that simple, it would have been much clearer if when the scene with the Normandy started there was a single line of text stating "20 years later". And that would have saved much of the problems with the ending for Bioware.
Since the writers didn't put that there, it's safe to assume OP's not right.

[Archontor]

I can't believe people are still taking this seriously?

Or that the OP keeps going, after 22 pages you've had all of about two people show even the slightest amount of acceptance of this idiotic theory. The rest however has been people disagreeing calling the OP deluded, calling for a spidery thread and quoting the dead rid prince of madness at you.

This isn't a thread they can win.

[M Hedonist]

Asharad Hett wrote...

Test flight? Lol!

I thought the "this is garbage" comment summed this thread up perfectly, but this sums up the thread even better.

[M Hedonist]

So, Javik just happens to not want to kill himself anymore? The last time I talked to him, he was very determined to do that. Like, beyond the point where Shepard could even try to convince him with a Renegade/Paragon thing. And why is he on that test jump? Why do they specifically need a Prothean on their Mass Relay test? Do they do this test with every species possible? Why would they even test this with a Prothean if there is only one Prothean left in the whole galaxy? Do they do this test with Thresher Maws, too?
This theory is so perplexingly stupid. It creates more questions than it answers questions.

[Jenonax]

Sauruz wrote...

So, Javik just happens to not want to kill himself anymore? The last time I talked to him, he was very determined to do that. Like, beyond the point where Shepard could even try to convince him with a Renegade/Paragon thing. And why is he on that test jump? Why do they specifically need a Prothean on their Mass Relay test? Do they do this test with every species possible? Why would they even test this with a Prothean if there is only one Prothean left in the whole galaxy? Do they do this test with Thresher Maws, too?
This theory is so perplexingly stupid. It creates more questions than it answers questions.

Duh!  Obviously we need to put the most important people in the galaxy on the most important ship and send it through an untested obviously unstable Relay jump?

God, who did you think tested things, trained technicians?

[Joe Del Toro]

I love how if this theory is true, the 4 minute song used at the end is being used to illustrate a period of time spanning potentially 2 decades.

Sigh, maybe if I lick Seival he'll just stop.

[The Night Mammoth]

Jenonax wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

So, Javik just happens to not want to kill himself anymore? The last time I talked to him, he was very determined to do that. Like, beyond the point where Shepard could even try to convince him with a Renegade/Paragon thing. And why is he on that test jump? Why do they specifically need a Prothean on their Mass Relay test? Do they do this test with every species possible? Why would they even test this with a Prothean if there is only one Prothean left in the whole galaxy? Do they do this test with Thresher Maws, too?
This theory is so perplexingly stupid. It creates more questions than it answers questions.

Duh!  Obviously we need to put the most important people in the galaxy on the most important ship and send it through an untested obviously unstable Relay jump?

God, who did you think tested things, trained technicians?

No, stupid, obviously they gathered people with no expertise or proficiency in the field and told them to figure it all out. 

I mean, who would you want more, a hundred Salarian technicians with 30 years experience researching the Mass Effect and its practical applications, or Garrus, who, erm, survived some combat situations a few times, and erm, has reach, and erm.......... knows nothing about operating a ship or the workings of the Mass Relays.

[Archontor]

^ well someone's gotta do the calibrations.

[M Hedonist]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Jenonax wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

So, Javik just happens to not want to kill himself anymore? The last time I talked to him, he was very determined to do that. Like, beyond the point where Shepard could even try to convince him with a Renegade/Paragon thing. And why is he on that test jump? Why do they specifically need a Prothean on their Mass Relay test? Do they do this test with every species possible? Why would they even test this with a Prothean if there is only one Prothean left in the whole galaxy? Do they do this test with Thresher Maws, too?
This theory is so perplexingly stupid. It creates more questions than it answers questions.

Duh!  Obviously we need to put the most important people in the galaxy on the most important ship and send it through an untested obviously unstable Relay jump?

God, who did you think tested things, trained technicians?

No, stupid, obviously they gathered people with no expertise or proficiency in the field and told them to figure it all out. 

I mean, who would you want more, a hundred Salarian technicians with 30 years experience researching the Mass Effect and its practical applications, or Garrus, who, erm, survived some combat situations a few times, and erm, has reach, and erm.......... knows nothing about operating a ship or the workings of the Mass Relays.

I don't even know why Javik would be there other than for ****s and giggles and trolling everybody on the ship.
"You call this a Mass Relay test jump? Ha ha ha! Primitives!"

[Taboo]

SONG TIME:


I dream of rain
I dream of gardens in the desert sand
I wake in vain
I dream of love as time runs through my hand

I dream of fire
Those dreams are tied to a horse that will never tire
And in the flames
Her shadows play in the shape of a man's desire

This desert rose
Each of her veils, a secret promise
This desert flower
No sweet perfume ever tortured me more than this

[Joe Del Toro]

I swear on my life and all I hold dear that I just went back to read the OP, and genuinely got a nosebleed. I'm done.

[Seival]

Jenonax wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

So, Javik just happens to not want to kill himself anymore? The last time I talked to him, he was very determined to do that. Like, beyond the point where Shepard could even try to convince him with a Renegade/Paragon thing. And why is he on that test jump? Why do they specifically need a Prothean on their Mass Relay test? Do they do this test with every species possible? Why would they even test this with a Prothean if there is only one Prothean left in the whole galaxy? Do they do this test with Thresher Maws, too?
This theory is so perplexingly stupid. It creates more questions than it answers questions.

Duh!  Obviously we need to put the most important people in the galaxy on the most important ship and send it through an untested obviously unstable Relay jump?

God, who did you think tested things, trained technicians?

I thought I already told about modern test-pilots. Pilots, who are best of the best. Pilots, who perform flight-tests on the most advanced new prototype-planes with great risk for their own lives. Some of them even die in the process... But that doesn't stop the others from keep doing their important job.

[M Hedonist]

"In my time, we captured fools making Mass Relay test jumps and made an example of them. Chain their arms up and give them the choice to saw off their own arms with a rusty saw or die of hunger."

Modifié par Sauruz, 08 juin 2012 - 09:20 .

[Jenonax]

Seival wrote...


I thought I already told about modern test-pilots. Pilots, who are best of the best. Pilots, who perform flight-tests on the most advanced new prototype-planes with great risk for their own lives. Some of them even die in the process... But that doesn't stop the others from keep doing their important job.

Then what in the name of the fluffy Lord is the SHADOW BROKER doing on there?  

[Taboo]

Joe Del Toro wrote...

I swear on my life and all I hold dear that I just went back to read the OP, and genuinely got a nosebleed. I'm done.

That happened?

My rectum almost prolapsed.

[Jenonax]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Jenonax wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

So, Javik just happens to not want to kill himself anymore? The last time I talked to him, he was very determined to do that. Like, beyond the point where Shepard could even try to convince him with a Renegade/Paragon thing. And why is he on that test jump? Why do they specifically need a Prothean on their Mass Relay test? Do they do this test with every species possible? Why would they even test this with a Prothean if there is only one Prothean left in the whole galaxy? Do they do this test with Thresher Maws, too?
This theory is so perplexingly stupid. It creates more questions than it answers questions.

Duh!  Obviously we need to put the most important people in the galaxy on the most important ship and send it through an untested obviously unstable Relay jump?

God, who did you think tested things, trained technicians?

No, stupid, obviously they gathered people with no expertise or proficiency in the field and told them to figure it all out. 

I mean, who would you want more, a hundred Salarian technicians with 30 years experience researching the Mass Effect and its practical applications, or Garrus, who, erm, survived some combat situations a few times, and erm, has reach, and erm.......... knows nothing about operating a ship or the workings of the Mass Relays.

Oh well if you put it like that Mr Mammoth (can I call you Night?) then the answer is obvious ...

The Salarians!  FFS the salarian technicians.  What the hell is going on!!!!!!

[The Night Mammoth]

Seival wrote...

I thought I already told about modern test-pilots. Pilots, who are best of the best. Pilots, who perform flight-tests on the most advanced new prototype-planes with great risk for their own lives. Some of them even die in the process... But that doesn't stop the others from keep doing their important job.

None of the people on the Normandy except Joker and EDI are 'the best'. 

Garrus is not a memeber of th crew, he does not know how to operate the ship and would not improve the chances of success. Neither would Liara, or Javik, or Ashley, or Kaidan. 

Your point is nonsense. Like I said, it's the equivalent of one of the pilots who tested the F-22's bringing along their accountant because he narrowly avoided being hit by a car. 

He avoided a near-death experience once, surely that means he's qualified to squeeze into the cockpit of an advanced war fighter despite never having flown before, done anything relating to aero-nautical engineering, or piloting a plane.