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#51
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Seival wrote...

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Seival wrote...

 Because people have to make sure that reconstructed/reactivated relays will not kill anyone inside a ship due to incorrect calibrations.



Which is why you take the most technologically advanced ship you have available, fill it with esteemed war heroes and send it through.


Yes. The ship and its crew are well known for completing very dangerous tasks.


Liara and Garrus don't operate the ship. 

Neither does Javik.

So why are they on it? 

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 04 juin 2012 - 10:32 .


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No.


The Normandy scene makes no sense, and your explanation of mass relay "test jumps" makes even LESS sense.


He could get a job as the lead writer on a project over at Bioware.


:P

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The past tense of deal is dealt.

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Seival wrote...

Pottumuusi wrote...

Seival wrote...

 Because people have to make sure that reconstructed/reactivated relays will not kill anyone inside a ship due to incorrect calibrations.



Which is why you take the most technologically advanced ship you have available, fill it with esteemed war heroes and send it through.


Yes. The ship and its crew are well known for completing very dangerous tasks.



Aww yeah, that's some good stupid right there.'


Can you figure out the reason why Sputnik 2 contained a dog instead of Nikita Khrushchev?

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Seival wrote...


These glowing eyes could be visible only in some special conditions. Liara's eyes are also not always black.


Ok that post, that post right there just ended me. You can't be serious oh dear God

Modifié par Joe Del Toro, 04 juin 2012 - 10:36 .


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The Night Mammoth wrote...

Seival wrote...

Pottumuusi wrote...

Seival wrote...

 Because people have to make sure that reconstructed/reactivated relays will not kill anyone inside a ship due to incorrect calibrations.



Which is why you take the most technologically advanced ship you have available, fill it with esteemed war heroes and send it through.


Yes. The ship and its crew are well known for completing very dangerous tasks.


Liara and Garrus don't operate the ship. 

Neither does Javik.

So why are they on it? 



Not even Joker is needed here. EDI could easily do this thing.

It still doesn't make sense to use your most high tech ship for a potentially dangerous test run. Toss some worthless old junk in and take a reading,

Modifié par Pottumuusi, 04 juin 2012 - 10:38 .


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And even if you are correct, they still die of radiation... not even EDI survives, you can't take out of travel a ship like that.

Modifié par mauro2222, 04 juin 2012 - 10:36 .


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Pottumuusi wrote...

Not even Joker is needed here. EDI could easily do this thing.


In addition, EDI's body is not required either. 

If this is a crash test run......... thing, surely you'd want a disposable ship, so not the galaxy's most advanced one, and a skeleton crew, which on the Normandy is no one. 

To conclude, the OP is using Insane Troll Logic. 

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 04 juin 2012 - 10:39 .


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OP is delusional. If you think this is laughable, you should read the "Pro-control" thread s/he started.

Always a good time.

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The Night Mammoth wrote...

Pottumuusi wrote...

Not even Joker is needed here. EDI could easily do this thing.


In addition, EDI's body is not required either. 

If this is a crash test run......... thing, surely you'd want a disposable ship, so not the galaxy's most advanced one, and a skeleton crew, which on the Normandy is no one. 



Exactly.

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The Night Mammoth wrote...

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Why is a crash-test necessary at all? Because people have to make sure that reconstructed/reactivated relays will not kill anyone inside a ship due to incorrect calibrations.


(1) Okay, why does the colour change
(2) Why is the outcome different if you choose synthesis
(3) Why is Joker worried and clearly trying to escape it
(4) Why send the already damaged Normandy
(5) Why send theNormandy with Shepard's squad in it,
(6) Why don't we see Shepard if she survives destroy
(7) How does the Normandy crash, were does it crash, why is it an obvious continuation from the scenes before it indicating that no significant time has past, why does your crew walk out and look at the horizon to symbolize new beginnings?


(1) Long-term post-effect from Crucible explosion.
(2) Normandy crashes as in any other ending.
(3) Will you warry if you control panel alerts you about critical system overload?
(4) The normandy is clearly not damaged before the shockwave hits it. Thanks for one more proof of my theory :)
(5) Shepard's squad proved it good enough to complete very risky tasks.
(6) Shepard has some other important tasks.
(7) EC will explain that. And there are clues about time difference (read OP).

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LucasShark wrote...

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IndridColdx wrote...

this is garbage


seconded.


Thirded


Fourthed.

I'm sorry OP, it's a nice idea to make this thread and all but that scene is outright disgusting and is an insult to the ME series.

I will not accept the idea that ME turns into some cheap Adam & Eve allegory.


Fifthed


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Seival wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Seival wrote...

Why is a crash-test necessary at all? Because people have to make sure that reconstructed/reactivated relays will not kill anyone inside a ship due to incorrect calibrations.


(1) Okay, why does the colour change
(2) Why is the outcome different if you choose synthesis
(3) Why is Joker worried and clearly trying to escape it
(4) Why send the already damaged Normandy
(5) Why send theNormandy with Shepard's squad in it,
(6) Why don't we see Shepard if she survives destroy
(7) How does the Normandy crash, were does it crash, why is it an obvious continuation from the scenes before it indicating that no significant time has past, why does your crew walk out and look at the horizon to symbolize new beginnings?


(1) Long-term post-effect from Crucible explosion.
(2) Normandy crashes as in any other ending.
(3) Will you warry if you control panel alerts you about critical system overload?
(4) The normandy is clearly not damaged before the shockwave hits it. Thanks for one more proof of my theory :)
(5) Shepard's squad proved it good enough to complete very risky tasks.
(6) Shepard has some other important tasks.
(7) EC will explain that. And there are clues about time difference (read OP).



Since nobody noticed what I did back there, I'm not even gonna bother with a Farfetch'd picture.

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Pottumuusi wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Pottumuusi wrote...

Not even Joker is needed here. EDI could easily do this thing.


In addition, EDI's body is not required either. 

If this is a crash test run......... thing, surely you'd want a disposable ship, so not the galaxy's most advanced one, and a skeleton crew, which on the Normandy is no one. 



Exactly.


They could run some tests with garbage ships prior to sending living crew of course. But tests with living crew is clearly also needed before allowing mass interstellar travels again.

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Seival wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Seival wrote...

Why is a crash-test necessary at all? Because people have to make sure that reconstructed/reactivated relays will not kill anyone inside a ship due to incorrect calibrations.


(1) Okay, why does the colour change
(2) Why is the outcome different if you choose synthesis
(3) Why is Joker worried and clearly trying to escape it
(4) Why send the already damaged Normandy
(5) Why send theNormandy with Shepard's squad in it,
(6) Why don't we see Shepard if she survives destroy
(7) How does the Normandy crash, were does it crash, why is it an obvious continuation from the scenes before it indicating that no significant time has past, why does your crew walk out and look at the horizon to symbolize new beginnings?


(1) Long-term post-effect from Crucible explosion.


So........... new Relays operate with a different color. 

That makes perfect sense. 

(2) Normandy crashes as in any other ending.


Don't bullsh*t me, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Joker suddenly has Reaper material texture lines and glowing eyes after being hit with the wave. 

(3) Will you warry if you control panel alerts you about critical system overload?


Yes. 

Why is he clearly trying to escape the wave?

(4) The normandy is clearly not damaged before the shockwave hits it. Thanks for one more proof of my theory :)


Like I said, Insane Troll Logic. 

It was damaged, you have to be blind. 

(5) Shepard's squad proved it good enough to complete very risky tasks.


See other points about why they aren't needed, and neither is Joker or EDI's mobile platform. 

(6) Shepard has some other important tasks.


Oh, but hasn't he proved himself good enough to complete very risky tasks? That's his ship, he's an Alliance Commander. Why is Liara and Garrus there, Javik too, but not the ship's captain?

(7) EC will explain that. And there are clues about time difference (read OP).


You can't explain any of it, in other words. 

Found maybe five holes in your theory. 

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IndridColdx wrote...

this is garbage


Absolutely.

Still better than the Indoctrination Theory, though.

#67
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Seival wrote...


They could run some tests with garbage ships prior to sending living crew of course. But tests with living crew is clearly also needed before allowing mass interstellar travels again.



You use dogs for this kind of thing.


Can't you really see what is wrong here?

Suppose they use a garbage ship. They should see that it got shat upon from the jump. What do they do?
Send Shepard's crew in, of course. Maybe it will go different this time.

Modifié par Pottumuusi, 04 juin 2012 - 10:48 .


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This has nothing to do with Test jumping Relays this was a BS Garden of Eden/Adam and Eve Allegory that had no business being anywhere close to Mass Effect.
Honestly CatamantaLoedis Makes more sense than this Thread and He's Crazy.
And here's the road bump you never noticed,
If that's what the scene meant to convey?
What buisness did it have being there in the first place?
No one could figure that out,
there couldn't of been a I dunno dialouge like
Joker: Well Crap Garrus we crashed on that Test Run we were doing.
Garrus: yup
Javik: Why in my gods name did I decide to come along in your Primitive Relay test?

then a Buff as all hell Casey Hudson comes out and says,
"Yeah it was a test of the relays after this mess, despite the fact they were blown up, Sorry we didn't know how to Transition into this scene to Convey what it meant,"

You're looking at things that aren't there.
 My point has been made, Good Day Sir
B)

Modifié par TheClonesLegacy, 04 juin 2012 - 11:13 .


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Seival wrote...

Pottumuusi wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Pottumuusi wrote...

Not even Joker is needed here. EDI could easily do this thing.


In addition, EDI's body is not required either. 

If this is a crash test run......... thing, surely you'd want a disposable ship, so not the galaxy's most advanced one, and a skeleton crew, which on the Normandy is no one. 



Exactly.


They could run some tests with garbage ships prior to sending living crew of course. But tests with living crew is clearly also needed before allowing mass interstellar travels again.


So much conjecture it's insane.

Troll Logic normally is though. 

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It has really come to this?

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 OP isn't getting it.


Here is a nice allegory to debunk this theory for good.


Synthesis beam following the Normandy:


Image IPB


Concurrently inside the Normandy being very human:

Image IPB


Joker stepping out of the Normandy after crashing:

Image IPB






All screen caps taken from:  
 



/theory debunked

Modifié par Leafs43, 04 juin 2012 - 10:50 .


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mauro2222 wrote...

And even if you are correct, they still die of radiation... not even EDI survives, you can't take out of travel a ship like that.


What radiation? There was a critical engine overload because of incorrect relays calibration. And Joker is skilled enough to control the flight of the Normandy even with damaged engines for a while. Remember ME2 beginning?

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grasping at straws

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Leafs43 wrote...

OP isn't getting it.

EDIT: too heavy images... had to remove them.

/theory debunked



And you clearly didn't read my answer: these glowing eyes could be visible only in special conditions. Liara's eyes are also not always black, but she always has her "mental mating ability".

Modifié par Seival, 04 juin 2012 - 10:54 .


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Seival wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

And even if you are correct, they still die of radiation... not even EDI survives, you can't take out of travel a ship like that.


What radiation? There was a critical engine overload because of incorrect relays calibration. And Joker is skilled enough to control the flight of the Normandy even with damaged engines for a while. Remember ME2 beginning?


Cherenkov's radiation is a possibility.


It would kill anyone on the Normandy instantly. 

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 04 juin 2012 - 10:54 .