1917 réponses à ce sujet

[Muhkida]

Daniel_N7 wrote...

This thread is beyond my IQ range.

I think I lost a few brain cells.... especially with the whole "Liara is a specialist in crashing ships" bit.

[SackofCat]

I think a question being asked is what is the point of making this scene a test flight? What purpose does it serve as is and in relation to the rest of the ending? Basically, under your premise, what were the authors trying to convey?

Another interesting question to consider is why would they convey their message (that this is a test flight that occurs in the future) in this manner and not in another way that might be more clear?

[Seival]

Sauruz wrote...

Seival wrote...

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

How has this thread reached 30 pages? How could people spend so much time discussing a theory that is so clearly insane?

*suddenly remembers IT*

Never mind.

Interesting, but  BioWare already stated that "IT" is not an option. And they said nothing about the Normandy crash scene... Moreover, they didn't say anything about removing some particular parts of the ending. So, the scene will remain in the game most likely. You should prepare yourself for that. And the best way to do so is to try to understand this scene.

Like every other post you write, you have literally no piece of proof or evidence to prove anything you're saying.
It's getting boring, Seival. It was funny the first dozen times you did it, but now you're just spreading false information.
Other than that they wouldn't remove scenes. No sh*t, Sherlock.

You should read official announcements more carefully.
http://social.biowar.../index/11028404

[Ryuukishi]

SackofCat wrote...

Another interesting question to consider is why would they convey their message (that this is a test flight that occurs in the future) in this manner and not in another way that might be more clear?

Haven't you read up on the Indoctrination Theory? Why would BioWare just convey the facts they were trying to convey in a clear manner, when instead they could construct a ridiculously elaborate and obscure system of hints and clues, that only the smartest and most dedicated fans could possibly unravel? That's how they roll.

[M Hedonist]

Seival wrote...

You should read official announcements more carefully.
http://social.biowar.../index/11028404

Nothing of that proves anything.

[Seival]

SackofCat wrote...

(1) I think a question being asked is what is the point of making this scene a test flight? What purpose does it serve as is and in relation to the rest of the ending? Basically, under your premise, what were the authors trying to convey?

(2) Another interesting question to consider is why would they convey their message (that this is a test flight that occurs in the future) in this manner and not in another way that might be more clear?

(1) I think that the purpose of the test-flight scene could be a clue:
 - There will be more games which stories will take place after ME3 events and will depend on them.
 - The games will have Mass Relays as the only way to travel between clusters fast enough.

(2) Maybe they wanted to give players additional small mistery to resolve? They love such things... Remember ME3 announcement with all those binary codes?

[Seival]

Sauruz wrote...

Seival wrote...

You should read official announcements more carefully.
http://social.biowar.../index/11028404

Nothing of that proves anything.

If you didn't understand even the announcement, then I'm not surprised you didn't understand the endings... No offense.

[M Hedonist]

Seival, it's been 33 pages. And there's literally only one other person on this forum who supports your theory. Don't you think it's time to let this thread die already?

[M Hedonist]

Seival wrote...

If you didn't understand even the announcement, then I'm not surprised you didn't understand the endings... No offense.

Instead of actually pointing me towards your alleged evidence you respond with more arrogance. Great.

[Kurremurre]

Uh, yeah, Seival... there is nothing in that link that says anything about IT, and there is even less that supports your Test Run hypothesis. Care to explain what you're on about?

Also:

(2) Maybe they wanted to give players additional small mistery to resolve? They love such things... Remember ME3 announcement with all those binary codes?

... Really? There is nothing mysterious about this; it's clear as day. You're trying to bludgeon it into the shape of a mystery, but that doesn't make it a mystery.

[Senario]

Grimwick wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

Xellith wrote...

IndridColdx wrote...

this is garbage

seconded.

Thirded

Fourthed.

I'm sorry OP, it's a nice idea to make this thread and all but that scene is outright disgusting and is an insult to the ME series.

I will not accept the idea that ME turns into some cheap Adam & Eve allegory.

Agreed, I refuse to accept that ME would take the "biblical story" angle as the end all to the story. Shepard will die almost always, a lame adam and eve reference is made with edi and joker (have fun with no kids cause I chose not to use synthesis).

[Seival]

Kurremurre wrote...
... Really? There is nothing mysterious about this; it's clear as day. You're trying to bludgeon it into the shape of a mystery, but that doesn't make it a mystery.

Nothing in the Endings is as clear as a day. Endings were designed to left a lot of questions. I think this is obvious.

[Kurremurre]

Way to ignore the first half of my post.

Anyway, I agree that the endings, as a whole, are supposed to raise a lot of questions. However, the timing of the Normandy crash is not one of them.

Even granting that BioWare like mysteries, there is no reason for them to have made any sort of mystery out of the crash scene in particular, in the way you're suggesting.

[Seival]

Kurremurre wrote...

Way to ignore the first half of my post.

Anyway, I agree that the endings, as a whole, are supposed to raise a lot of questions. However, the timing of the Normandy crash is not one of them.

Even granting that BioWare like mysteries, there is no reason for them to have made any sort of mystery out of the crash scene in particular, in the way you're suggesting.

Why not?

[Kurremurre]

(You're still not answering my question about the link.)

Sorry, but the burden of proof is on you, not me. Unless you think that the first thing to consider in any situation is whether or not it's supposed to be a mystery, I'm sure you will accept that it is you who have to show that it is so, and not vice versa.

If BioWare wanted to add an "additional small mystery to be resolved", there are far better ways to do so than to try to sneak it into a scene that is portrayed as a straightforward continuation of previous events. This is yet another case where you have to assume great incompetence on BioWare's part for your suggestion to make any sense.

[M Hedonist]

It's unbelievable this thread went for 34 pages without a single Spiderman pic.

[Naamah_bb]

Seival wrote...

SackofCat wrote...

(1) The corresponding colors could imply that the crucible had some kind of permanent effect on eezo or something peculiar to mass relay technology.

The problem with chronology exists in the scene even when it is taken at face value. How did Joker bypass the reapers, pick up your squadmates in London, bypass the reapers again, enter into ftl and have enough time to either reach the Charon relay or crash land on a jungle planet outside the Sol system all in the time it takes Shepard to walk to the control room, have a 2 brief conversations, and walk less than 100 meters?
(2) OP is assuming a longer time jump than most but a time jump is not illogical.

I have not gotten far enough in the game with Javik to comment specifically about why he can or can't be on this "test flight" without betraying his earlier intentions but I will speculate anyway.

(3) Javik's sole goal was vengeance. In the past, Javik hoped to survive the previous invasion, awake with aprox. 1 million other protheans, defeat the reapers, and then, presumably, rebuild his civilization. Once Shepard defeated the reapers, vengeance was attained. Having spent time with primitives and having fought beside the primitives as they helped him achieve his ultimate goal, Javik may have felt indebted or developed a desire to help rebuild this society. It could have been one final insult to the reapers.

(1) Exactly.
(2) I'm assuming a large time difference, like 15-20 years after the Battle for Earth.
(3) Exactly.

Thanks. It's good to see constructive replies here.

Really? OMG they really haven't aged a day have they? 
lol

[M Hedonist]

[Landline]

The opening post is almost as dumb as the ending.


What am I saying it makes way more sense then the ending, but that's like saying an ant is a lot stronger then an aphid.

[M Hedonist]

[estebanus]

This thread needs more spiderman to make sense.

[M Hedonist]

[RocketManSR2]

DAMMIT

That's what I get for not checking how long ago the last post was.

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 12 juin 2012 - 12:37 .

[M Hedonist]

RocketManSR2 wrote...

Abandon thread? You're the one who resurrected it

Modifié par Sauruz, 12 juin 2012 - 12:29 .

[MegaSovereign]

My theory on the Normandy scene was that Joker was trying to escape a massive plothole.

Once the magic plothole wave touched the Normandy, it teleported it to Omicron Persei 8.