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[estebanus]

Answer this question. Don't avoid it.

Seival, please explain the Shepard breath scene. It makes no sense to be there if you think the Normandy went through a test jump, or are we to assume that Shepard was lying half-dead in rubble for the past 25 years?

[The Night Mammoth]

estebanus wrote...

Answer this question. Don't avoid it.

Seival, please explain the Shepard breath scene. It makes no sense to be there if you think the Normandy went through a test jump, or are we to assume that Shepard was lying half-dead in rubble for the past 25 years?

Can he also answer how the Normandy is performing their nonsensical test-flight when Earth has been utterly wiped clean of life and civilization, and so has the fleet, when you have low EMS and choose destroy?

[estebanus]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Answer this question. Don't avoid it.

Seival, please explain the Shepard breath scene. It makes no sense to be there if you think the Normandy went through a test jump, or are we to assume that Shepard was lying half-dead in rubble for the past 25 years?

Can he also answer how the Normandy is performing their nonsensical test-flight when Earth has been utterly wiped clean of life and civilization, and so has the fleet, when you have low EMS and choose destroy?

God, I wish that this thread would be spidermanned again...

[The Night Mammoth]

estebanus wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Answer this question. Don't avoid it.

Seival, please explain the Shepard breath scene. It makes no sense to be there if you think the Normandy went through a test jump, or are we to assume that Shepard was lying half-dead in rubble for the past 25 years?

Can he also answer how the Normandy is performing their nonsensical test-flight when Earth has been utterly wiped clean of life and civilization, and so has the fleet, when you have low EMS and choose destroy?

God, I wish that this thread would be spidermanned again...

Now just hang on a minute. I'm sure Seival will explain this hole in his theory. 

And by explain I mean make another assumption that debunks it for the sixty first time. 

[estebanus]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

estebanus wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Answer this question. Don't avoid it.

Seival, please explain the Shepard breath scene. It makes no sense to be there if you think the Normandy went through a test jump, or are we to assume that Shepard was lying half-dead in rubble for the past 25 years?

Can he also answer how the Normandy is performing their nonsensical test-flight when Earth has been utterly wiped clean of life and civilization, and so has the fleet, when you have low EMS and choose destroy?

God, I wish that this thread would be spidermanned again...

Now just hang on a minute. I'm sure Seival will explain this hole in his theory. 

And by explain I mean make another assumption that debunks it for the sixty first time. 

Have you read his new IT mock thread? First I facepalmed, then I chuckled.

[Uncle Jo]

So, it was all a jump-test... The most nonsensical explanation attempt of the normandy crash I've read. By far.

[estebanus]

Uncle Jo wrote...

So, it was all a jump-test... The most nonsensical explanation attempt of the normandy crash I've read. By far.

I guess you don't know Seival very well...

[Grimwick]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Answer this question. Don't avoid it.

Seival, please explain the Shepard breath scene. It makes no sense to be there if you think the Normandy went through a test jump, or are we to assume that Shepard was lying half-dead in rubble for the past 25 years?

Can he also answer how the Normandy is performing their nonsensical test-flight when Earth has been utterly wiped clean of life and civilization, and so has the fleet, when you have low EMS and choose destroy?

Seival, Y U NO ANSWER?

[iHorizons]

This thread is goop (garbage and poop)

It makes less sense than the current endings with Casper the ghost

Modifié par iHorizons, 15 juin 2012 - 10:28 .

[Uncle Jo]

estebanus wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

So, it was all a jump-test... The most nonsensical explanation attempt of the normandy crash I've read. By far.

I guess you don't know Seival very well...

I've been sometimes in the control-thread, and he was quite the polite guy, even if I never agreed with him. Now, I just have taken a look to his IT parody-thread... Coming from someone who wrote the pile of bullsh*t named "Normandy crash support scene", I find it somehow funny...

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 15 juin 2012 - 10:29 .

[estebanus]

Uncle Jo wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

So, it was all a jump-test... The most nonsensical explanation attempt of the normandy crash I've read. By far.

I guess you don't know Seival very well...

I've been sometimes in the control-thread, and he was quite the polite guy, even if I never agreed with him. Now, I just have taken a look to his IT parody-thread... Coming from someone who wrote the pile of bullsh*t named "Normandy crash support scene", I find it somehow funny...

I'm abaout 99% sure he's a troll, 0,5% sure he's an idiot, and 0,5 % sure he's just downright retarded...

[Seival]

Erield wrote...

Seival wrote...

Erield wrote...

I would like to present to you the following definitions of words.

logic: sensible rational thought and argument rather than ideas that are influenced by emotion or whim
sensible: having or demonstrating sound reason and judgment
sound: Thorough; complete
reason: a cause that explains a particular phenomenon

How does showing us Rebuilt Relay will make the logical conclusion hard to find? What you are suggesting will not require any logical analysis, it will just show us a fact.

I came to logical conclusions that were shown in OP. And it was not easy, believe me. Some time ago I also wanted the scene to be removed. But later I started to ask myself: why? And the answer was sudden and obvious: I just didn't want to try to understand it. And then I tried...

Please explain how coming to the conclusion that the Relays were rebuilt in the end-scene is in any way, shape, or form logical. 

Example:
 - Joker couldn't be warned about the Crucible's explosion.
 - Joker physically had no time to take all crew members aboard the Normandy before the Crucible's explosion.
 - Normandy physically had no time to reach the Sol Relay and make a jump before the Crucible's explosion.
 - Crucible's explosion could not damage Normandy at all.
 - But scene clearly showed the JUMP that DAMAGED the ship's engines (mostly).

Jump before the Crucible's explosion was not possible. Crucible's explosion could not damage the Normandy. So that was not the Crucuble's explosion in the scene. And scene took place later, than Crucible exploded. But how they jumped later without working relays? Why Normandy was damaged?... I think you can continue yourself from here... Logical enough for you?

[estebanus]

estebanus wrote...

Answer this question. Don't avoid it.

Seival, please explain the Shepard breath scene. It makes no sense to be there if you think the Normandy went through a test jump, or are we to assume that Shepard was lying half-dead in rubble for the past 25 years?

[The Angry One]

Seival, you're entirely correct that the Normandy scene makes no sense at face value.
However, your scenario makes no sense. The scene not making sense as is does not make yours any more viable.

Modifié par The Angry One, 15 juin 2012 - 10:35 .

[Seival]

estebanus wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Answer this question. Don't avoid it.

Seival, please explain the Shepard breath scene. It makes no sense to be there if you think the Normandy went through a test jump, or are we to assume that Shepard was lying half-dead in rubble for the past 25 years?

I believe that "secret ending scene" was called "secret" for reason. This is just an "achievement" for Renegade Shepard, which can be shown even after the titles, or after the Old Man and a Kid scene.

[Seival]

The Angry One wrote...

Seival, you're entirely correct that the Normandy scene makes no sense at face value.
However, your scenario makes no sense. The scene not making sense as is does not make yours any more viable.

I just don't believe that the scene is symbolical, and trying to find logical explanation... And I don't wanna the scene to be removed. I want it to be explained. That's why I created this support thread.

[Joe Del Toro]

Seival wrote...

I just don't believe that the scene is symbolical, and trying to find logical explanation... 

Trying and failing, god damn it.

[M Hedonist]

It may make sense, but it doesn't make as much sense as the Kai Leng fight scene.

[estebanus]

Seival wrote...

estebanus wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Answer this question. Don't avoid it.

Seival, please explain the Shepard breath scene. It makes no sense to be there if you think the Normandy went through a test jump, or are we to assume that Shepard was lying half-dead in rubble for the past 25 years?

I believe that "secret ending scene" was called "secret" for reason. This is just an "achievement" for Renegade Shepard, which can be shown even after the titles, or after the Old Man and a Kid scene.

Which it wasn't. Destroy also isn't renegade. It's also not a secret ending scene. In the official Mass effect 3 guide, it is shown as one of the different 16 endings one can get.

If it indeed was secret, it would either play after the credits roll or it would be seen as an easteregg in the official game guide.

[Erield]

Seival wrote...

Example:
 - Joker couldn't be warned about the Crucible's explosion.
 - Joker physically had no time to take all crew members aboard the Normandy before the Crucible's explosion.
 - Normandy physically had no time to reach the Sol Relay and make a jump before the Crucible's explosion.
 - Crucible's explosion could not damage Normandy at all.
 - But scene clearly showed the JUMP that DAMAGED the ship's engines (mostly).

Jump before the Crucible's explosion was not possible. Crucible's explosion could not damage the Normandy. So that was not the Crucuble's explosion in the scene. And scene took place later, than Crucible exploded. But how they jumped later without working relays? Why Normandy was damaged?... I think you can continue yourself from here... Logical enough for you?

There is no basis for this assumption/assertion/position. 

1.  We do not see whether the energy shot out from the Relays adversely affects ships.  Even of the beam/wave/thing from the Crucible does not, it is possible that what emanates from the Relays is different.

2.  The SR2 Normandy still has the Reaper IFF installed; this could make it susceptible to the shockwave the Crucible's energy sends out even if every other ship in the galaxy isn't. 

3.  The shockwave chasing the Normandy could be the blast from an exploding Relay.  Thus, even if the actual, normal shockwaves are perfectly benign, the fact that the Normandy was too close to a Relay exploding could answer the question of why it was damaged (and also answers the question of why the color is the same as the energy-wave, as the video clearly shows the explosion to be the same color).

As to the rest; Joker could have been warned about the explosion.  If they can rebuild the Relays and expect us to figure that out in the time-span of a 2 second continuous movie clip that never interrupts the music, then Shepard can make a call warning the fleet while off-camera at the very moment of the choice.  Joker could have already picked up the crew (while Shepard was dealing with TIM). 

There's no need for them to actually be in a Relay Corridor anyway; it's more probable that they're in 'normal' blue-shifted FTL. 

Evidence for this includes (but is not limited to): greater than 3 second transit time (the duration of the Omega Relay jump), Joker doing stuff on the control panel, and the Normandy not sticking to a straight flight-path.

Modifié par Erield, 15 juin 2012 - 10:57 .

[Uncle Jo]

estebanus wrote...


I'm abaout 99% sure he's a troll, 0,5% sure he's an idiot, and 0,5 % sure he's just downright retarded...

I don't think he's a troll (not 100% sure though). But to create a thread that supports the Normandy crash scene with such an explanation, he must either:
- have a great sense of humor.
- or be completely insane.

[Peranor]

Uncle Jo wrote...

So, it was all a jump-test... The most nonsensical explanation attempt of the normandy crash I've read. By far.

Check his posting history. He's demented...

[Fail_Inc]

Why not take this theory a step further...

The WHOLE invasion is a simulation, just like Kobayashi (or whatever its name not a trekkie). After thousands for N7 members (us the players), human alliance finally gathers the data needed. The next 3 games will be about the real invasion!

GENIUS I TELL YA!

[M Hedonist]

Seeing how Seival never adressed my post about how his theory is mathematically impossible I'm starting to think my mock thread has been the most productive thing I have ever contributed to this theory.

Modifié par Sauruz, 15 juin 2012 - 11:19 .

[Pottumuusi]

Yeeaaaah...