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[M Hedonist]

[estebanus]

EDIT: Crap.

Modifié par estebanus, 15 juin 2012 - 11:21 .

[M Hedonist]

[estebanus]

Oh hell no, I'm not going down this way again!
Not yet, anyway...
Maybe later...

[M Hedonist]

estebanus wrote...

Oh hell no, I'm not going down this way again!
Not yet, anyway...
Maybe later...

No hard feelings. I'd be surprised if any people join in at this point.

[Pottumuusi]

[Seival]

Erield wrote...

Seival wrote...

Example:
 - Joker couldn't be warned about the Crucible's explosion.
 - Joker physically had no time to take all crew members aboard the Normandy before the Crucible's explosion.
 - Normandy physically had no time to reach the Sol Relay and make a jump before the Crucible's explosion.
 - Crucible's explosion could not damage Normandy at all.
 - But scene clearly showed the JUMP that DAMAGED the ship's engines (mostly).

Jump before the Crucible's explosion was not possible. Crucible's explosion could not damage the Normandy. So that was not the Crucuble's explosion in the scene. And scene took place later, than Crucible exploded. But how they jumped later without working relays? Why Normandy was damaged?... I think you can continue yourself from here... Logical enough for you?

There is no basis for this assumption/assertion/position. 

1.  We do not see whether the energy shot out from the Relays adversely affects ships.  Even of the beam/wave/thing from the Crucible does not, it is possible that what emanates from the Relays is different.

2.  The SR2 Normandy still has the Reaper IFF installed; this could make it susceptible to the shockwave the Crucible's energy sends out even if every other ship in the galaxy isn't. 

3.  The shockwave chasing the Normandy could be the blast from an exploding Relay.  Thus, even if the actual, normal shockwaves are perfectly benign, the fact that the Normandy was too close to a Relay exploding could answer the question of why it was damaged (and also answers the question of why the color is the same as the energy-wave, as the video clearly shows the explosion to be the same color).

As to the rest; Joker could have been warned about the explosion.  If they can rebuild the Relays and expect us to figure that out in the time-span of a 2 second continuous movie clip that never interrupts the music, then Shepard can make a call warning the fleet while off-camera at the very moment of the choice.  Joker could have already picked up the crew (while Shepard was dealing with TIM). 

There's no need for them to actually be in a Relay Corridor anyway; it's more probable that they're in 'normal' blue-shifted FTL. 

Evidence for this includes (but is not limited to): greater than 3 second transit time (the duration of the Omega Relay jump), Joker doing stuff on the control panel, and the Normandy not sticking to a straight flight-path.

(1) Relay's explosion have to have the same properties as Crucuble's, or there was no point in it. Explosions from the Relays are as massive as from the Crucible. So, in your case Sol's Relay explosion should just destroy the entire United Fleet. So many ships on the orbit so close to each other. Even if only engines will be damaged there will be massive collisions and planet-side crashes.

(2) That doesn't explain why only engines were damaged so hard.

(3) It could be, but only if the jump really happed just before the Crucible's explosion.

There was no call-warning. The entire "Catalist Dialogue" scene and final choice happens inside Shepard's mind. She just can't warn anyone. And even if she could, Normandy and its crew have no time to escape. And more importantly, they have no reason to escape.

Modifié par Seival, 15 juin 2012 - 11:29 .

[sistersafetypin]

estebanus wrote...

Oh hell no, I'm not going down this way again!
Not yet, anyway...
Maybe later...

lol, I'd join in but I'm not sure how close I am to a perma ban

[Uncle Jo]

Pottumuusi wrote...

Why do I have the feeling that this thread is gonna get locked down in short?

[Uncle Jo]

estebanus wrote...

EDIT: Crap.

Seconded.

[Seival]

sistersafetypin wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Oh hell no, I'm not going down this way again!
Not yet, anyway...
Maybe later...

lol, I'd join in but I'm not sure how close I am to a perma ban

Yes, you should really keep that in mind. Because I started to report all inappropriate images in my threads recently.

[The Angry One]

Seival wrote...

sistersafetypin wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Oh hell no, I'm not going down this way again!
Not yet, anyway...
Maybe later...

lol, I'd join in but I'm not sure how close I am to a perma ban

Yes, you should really keep that in mind. Because I started to report all inappropriate images in my threads recently.

How about I report this entire thread for being nonsense?

[legion999]

Uncle Jo wrote...

Why do I have the feeling that this thread is gonna get locked down in short?

What a shame.

[estebanus]

Uncle Jo wrote...

Pottumuusi wrote...

Why do I have the feeling that this thread is gonna get locked down in short?

It probably won't. The other day, me and a few others' spammed this thread with 8 pages full of half-naked quarians and spiderman pictures, and it didn't work.

[estebanus]

If you all wanna see a real theory, check this out!

http://social.biowar...5331/3#12596845

[M Hedonist]

I've proven this theory wrong empirically, logically and mathematically, mocking this thread and spamming it with Spiderman are really the only logical options left.

Modifié par Sauruz, 15 juin 2012 - 11:44 .

[Uncle Jo]

estebanus wrote...


It probably won't. The other day, me and a few others' spammed this thread with 8 pages full of half-naked quarians and spiderman pictures, and it didn't work.

Have a little faith... Seriously, it's not very nice, even if this thread doesn't make any sense...

[M Hedonist]

Uncle Jo wrote...

estebanus wrote...


It probably won't. The other day, me and a few others' spammed this thread with 8 pages full of half-naked quarians and spiderman pictures, and it didn't work.

Have a little faith... Seriously, it's not very nice, even if this thread doesn't make any sense...

Don't shed tears for the troll.

[Seival]

The Angry One wrote...

Seival wrote...

sistersafetypin wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Oh hell no, I'm not going down this way again!
Not yet, anyway...
Maybe later...

lol, I'd join in but I'm not sure how close I am to a perma ban

Yes, you should really keep that in mind. Because I started to report all inappropriate images in my threads recently.

How about I report this entire thread for being nonsense?

I believe that it will only help moderators to clear all those images faster, and maybe even ban the most active inappropriate-image-spammers.

Modifié par Seival, 15 juin 2012 - 11:49 .

[The Angry One]

You realise you're being image spammed because you refuse to back down from an indefensible position?

If you won't recognise when a theory just doesn't work, you'll become the Graham Hanc-ock (censoring a name? seriously?) of BSN.

Modifié par The Angry One, 15 juin 2012 - 11:53 .

[estebanus]

The Angry One wrote...

You realise you're being image spammed because you refuse to back down from an indefensible position?

He's being image-spammed for not answering any questions without making huge assumptions and having no supporting evidence.

Modifié par estebanus, 15 juin 2012 - 11:51 .

[M Hedonist]

Seival wrote...

I believe that it will only help moderators to clear all these images faster, and maybe even ban the most active inappropriate-image-spammers.

The only spam in this thread is your theory.
Everything else has some kind of redeemable quality to it.

[Erield]

Seival wrote...

(1) Relay's explosion have to have the same properties as Crucuble's, or there was no point in it. Explosions from the Relays are as massive as from the Crucible. So, in your case Sol's Relay explosion should just destroy the entire United Fleet. So many ships on the orbit so close to each other. Even if only engines will be damaged there will be massive collisions and planet-side crashes.

(2) That doesn't explain why only engines were damaged so hard.

(3) It could be, but only if the jump really happed just before the Crucible's explosion.

There was no call-warning. The entire "Catalist Dialogue" scene and final choice happens inside Shepard's mind. She just can't warn anyone. And even if she could, Normandy and its crew have no time to escape. And more importantly, they have no reason to escape.

1.  NO, they don't have to have the same properties.  They have to have the same end-affect on the galaxy; eg, the Reapers have to be killed/destroyed or all synthorganics have to be combined into one.  And yes, there is absolutely nothing to say that any ship in the fleet remained active/alive aside from the Normandy.  Assuming they are all dead is not at all a problem.

2.  The wave actually envelopes/hits the engines; not the front half of the ship.  It damages the parts of the ship it comes into contact with.

Your head-canon is that the dialogue took place inside Shepard's mind.  That's fine.  That still fits with my extrapolation that Shepard warned everyone to gfto at a point in time that we are not shown.  Just like the Relays are re-built in a time that is not shown.

[Uncle Jo]

Sauruz wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

estebanus wrote...


It probably won't. The other day, me and a few others' spammed this thread with 8 pages full of half-naked quarians and spiderman pictures, and it didn't work.

Have a little faith... Seriously, it's not very nice, even if this thread doesn't make any sense...

Don't shed tears for the troll.

Oh I wasn't thinking about him. In a sense his thread is popular (although not in the way he probably imagined it), I meant other people who randomly crash in this thread (after a test-flight on BSN) and would like to express their feelings.

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 15 juin 2012 - 11:52 .

[The Angry One]

estebanus wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

You realise you're being image spammed because you refuse to back down from an indefensible position?

He's being image-spammed for not answering any questions without making huge assumptions and having no supporting evidence.

He won't because he can't. You can't back up this theory with logic because it makes no sense.
Hence why it's indefensible.