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Shut Seival the IT makes more sense then your garbage theory

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Lol

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iHorizons wrote...

Shut Seival the IT makes more sense then your garbage theory


No, it doesn't.

Besides, if my theory will be approved, it will not change the endings at all. While the "IT" is all about changing the endings, which is not going to happen.

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Seival wrote...

iHorizons wrote...

Shut Seival the IT makes more sense then your garbage theory


No, it doesn't.


That's just damn hilarious. 

Besides, if my theory will be approved, it will not change the endings at all. While the "IT" is all about changing the endings, which is not going to happen.


Which tells me you have no idea about the Indoctrination Theory. 

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Ahem...this theory apparently relies on things being happy and sunny except for the relays after Shepard makes a choice.

Many problems...no one has really looked into creating relays. Aethyta wanted the Asari to and was told to stuff it.

The star gazer scene (from a text dump description of the scene) takes place 10,000 years in the future and they still don't have interstellar travel (watch and pay attention to what the old guy says-he has no idea what life exists in other systems).

So, that "crash test" really led to better things, eh?

And do you even understand what crash test means? It means ramming something into something else to see what damage you cause.

Ok, a relay test. Makes no sense as everyone has said to send the Normandy into it to test it. This is all made up stuff with no bearing on reality and if any clarity were to include this then I need to break my 6 ME games and remove any mention of ME from my eyesight on my ereader and ipad. I may need to do that anyway, but this would clinch it.

Apparently there's a cycled band of teammates that are just dying to test a relay that no one knew how to build.

The fact that we can't make any sense of what we all see as one of the stupidest scenes in the ending, does not mean this makes sense of it.

Sorry, it doesn't. Relays destroyed. Galaxy screwed. Magical beam sent teammates to Normandy to repopulate the galaxy with Joker, EDI, and Garrus. Or Kaidan, Garrus, and Joker. Or some females or maybe your LI who will get real friendly with everyone.

Nonsense can't make sense of nonsense.

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Can someone please start a "Shepard, I am your father" thread where the discussion is how the catalyst really is saying he's Shepard's dad.

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This is absolutely retarded.

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3DandBeyond wrote...

Ahem...this theory apparently relies on things being happy and sunny except for the relays after Shepard makes a choice.

Many problems...no one has really looked into creating relays. Aethyta wanted the Asari to and was told to stuff it.

The star gazer scene (from a text dump description of the scene) takes place 10,000 years in the future and they still don't have interstellar travel (watch and pay attention to what the old guy says-he has no idea what life exists in other systems).

So, that "crash test" really led to better things, eh?

And do you even understand what crash test means? It means ramming something into something else to see what damage you cause.

Ok, a relay test. Makes no sense as everyone has said to send the Normandy into it to test it. This is all made up stuff with no bearing on reality and if any clarity were to include this then I need to break my 6 ME games and remove any mention of ME from my eyesight on my ereader and ipad. I may need to do that anyway, but this would clinch it.

Apparently there's a cycled band of teammates that are just dying to test a relay that no one knew how to build.

The fact that we can't make any sense of what we all see as one of the stupidest scenes in the ending, does not mean this makes sense of it.

Sorry, it doesn't. Relays destroyed. Galaxy screwed. Magical beam sent teammates to Normandy to repopulate the galaxy with Joker, EDI, and Garrus. Or Kaidan, Garrus, and Joker. Or some females or maybe your LI who will get real friendly with everyone.

Nonsense can't make sense of nonsense.


Actually, Old Man and a Child scene strongly suggests that people already have ways to travel between clusters. Also Old Man says that not entire galaxy yet explored. And new explorers still could find alot of amazing things out there.

I already answered questions about importance of full-staffed test-jumps in FAQ, so I'll not repeat the answers here. And I think that removing Mass Relays from the ME Universe forever is not a good idea. I believe that BioWare never wanted to do so...

...And my theory actually supports not just Normandy Crash scene. It supports Mass Relays for future ME Universe based games. As far as I know, a lot of people like that idea actually. Strange, but I've seen only one or two such players in this thread.

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Wait...what?

if the Normandy crashing was a few days/Weeks/months/whatever, why the hell would they show us it, exacly AFTER the relays are destroyed, the beam the exact same colour, all without telling us?

if anything, this makes the ending even worse then it already is

Modifié par Anti-killer, 21 juin 2012 - 09:32 .


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Anti-killer wrote...

Wait...what?

if the Normandy crashing was a few days/Weeks/months/whatever, why the hell would they show us it, exacly AFTER the relays are destroyed, the beam the exact same colour, all without telling us?

if anything, this makes the ending even worse then it already is


Don't even bother trying to make rational points on this thread.

You just have to look through the first 10 pages to realise the extent to which logic and rationality are ignored by the OP.

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It's simple. Every jump cut you've ever seen in the ME trilogy was actually half a year into the future.

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Oh god will this nightmare never stop haunting this thread?
Just let it die already. Dozens of other have already tried arguing with OP. Nothing you bring up can convince him. He'll counter all your arguments with baseless assumptions. Or he'll just silently ignore your arguments if he can't think up any baseless assumptions at the moment. This theory has been disproven empirically, logically and mathematically. For crying out loud, Seival even said at one point that he would keep believing his theory even if a dev came into this thread and denied the theory.
This whole thread is a testimony to the undying stubbornness of man.

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Seival wrote...

I already answered questions about importance of full-staffed test-jumps in FAQ, so I'll not repeat the answers here. And I think that removing Mass Relays from the ME Universe forever is not a good idea. I believe that BioWare never wanted to do so...


I've got news for you pal, your FAQ ain't worth but two things, right now: Jack and sh*t... and Jack left town.
 

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Seival constantly necros his own threads!

Oh man, if this thread makes it to page 100 I'm gonna fücking lose it!

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Seival wrote...


Actually, Old Man and a Child scene strongly suggests that people already have ways to travel between clusters. Also Old Man says that not entire galaxy yet explored. And new explorers still could find alot of amazing things out there.

I already answered questions about importance of full-staffed test-jumps in FAQ, so I'll not repeat the answers here. And I think that removing Mass Relays from the ME Universe forever is not a good idea. I believe that BioWare never wanted to do so...

...And my theory actually supports not just Normandy Crash scene. It supports Mass Relays for future ME Universe based games. As far as I know, a lot of people like that idea actually. Strange, but I've seen only one or two such players in this thread.


No, the old man says things that lead you to understand the relays aren't working.  Your explanation of a fully-staffed test jump crash test just makes no sense.  They have people that are hired to do that-there are people in history like Chuck Yeager who actually perform test flights because they know what to do if something goes wrong.  What would Liara do in such a case?  Look for some dirt to dig in or someone to pay for information? 

And up until the ending of ME3, the devs also said the destruction or even the rupture of a relay would basically ruin a star system, but they decided to retcon it in discussions outside of the game because players said it made no sense for anyone to be alive afterward.

Your theory is preposterous.  Of all the things to show as an epilogue, the last thing most people could care to see is a test flight into a relay that doesn't even work and causes the Normandy to crash.

Oh, and how long after Shepard was up on the Citadel did this happen?  Years or decades.  So Shepard's burned torso is sitting in a pile of rubble for years or decades.  Uh, Shepard is still human and maybe needs to eat and pee and poop and maybe needs medical care.  The cutscene shows Shepard taking a gasp AFTER the Normandy crashes on that planet.

How could help get to the crashed Normandy that supposedly went through a relay to test it and found it wasn't working? 

Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 21 juin 2012 - 09:48 .


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Grimwick wrote...

Anti-killer wrote...

Wait...what?

if the Normandy crashing was a few days/Weeks/months/whatever, why the hell would they show us it, exacly AFTER the relays are destroyed, the beam the exact same colour, all without telling us?

if anything, this makes the ending even worse then it already is


Don't even bother trying to make rational points on this thread.

You just have to look through the first 10 pages to realise the extent to which logic and rationality are ignored by the OP.


Actually, I thought this was the comic relief thread.  Let out your crazy.

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3DandBeyond wrote...

No, the old man says things that lead you to understand the relays aren't working.  Your explanation of a fully-staffed test jump crash test just makes no sense.  They have people that are hired to do that-there are people in history like Chuck Yeager who actually perform test flights because they know what to do if something goes wrong.  What would Liara do in such a case?  Look for some dirt to dig in or someone to pay for information? 

And up until the ending of ME3, the devs also said the destruction or even the rupture of a relay would basically ruin a star system, but they decided to retcon it in discussions outside of the game because players said it made no sense for anyone to be alive afterward.

Your theory is preposterous.  Of all the things to show as an epilogue, the last thing most people could care to see is a test flight into a relay that doesn't even work and causes the Normandy to crash.

Oh, and how long after Shepard was up on the Citadel did this happen?  Years or decades.  So Shepard's burned torso is sitting in a pile of rubble for years or decades.  Uh, Shepard is still human and maybe needs to eat and pee and poop and maybe needs medical care.  The cutscene shows Shepard taking a gasp AFTER the Normandy crashes on that planet.

How could help get to the crashed Normandy that supposedly went through a relay to test it and found it wasn't working? 


THIS!!

Now you guys hang on, I'm gonna go get some more popcorn and continue to watch as this unfolds.

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CTWraith wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

No, the old man says things that lead you to understand the relays aren't working.  Your explanation of a fully-staffed test jump crash test just makes no sense.  They have people that are hired to do that-there are people in history like Chuck Yeager who actually perform test flights because they know what to do if something goes wrong.  What would Liara do in such a case?  Look for some dirt to dig in or someone to pay for information? 

And up until the ending of ME3, the devs also said the destruction or even the rupture of a relay would basically ruin a star system, but they decided to retcon it in discussions outside of the game because players said it made no sense for anyone to be alive afterward.

Your theory is preposterous.  Of all the things to show as an epilogue, the last thing most people could care to see is a test flight into a relay that doesn't even work and causes the Normandy to crash.

Oh, and how long after Shepard was up on the Citadel did this happen?  Years or decades.  So Shepard's burned torso is sitting in a pile of rubble for years or decades.  Uh, Shepard is still human and maybe needs to eat and pee and poop and maybe needs medical care.  The cutscene shows Shepard taking a gasp AFTER the Normandy crashes on that planet.

How could help get to the crashed Normandy that supposedly went through a relay to test it and found it wasn't working? 


THIS!!

Now you guys hang on, I'm gonna go get some more popcorn and continue to watch as this unfolds.

There have been hundreds of "THIS" posts in this threads. Nothing ever comes out of "THIS".

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3DandBeyond wrote...

Seival wrote...


Actually, Old Man and a Child scene strongly suggests that people already have ways to travel between clusters. Also Old Man says that not entire galaxy yet explored. And new explorers still could find alot of amazing things out there.

I already answered questions about importance of full-staffed test-jumps in FAQ, so I'll not repeat the answers here. And I think that removing Mass Relays from the ME Universe forever is not a good idea. I believe that BioWare never wanted to do so...

...And my theory actually supports not just Normandy Crash scene. It supports Mass Relays for future ME Universe based games. As far as I know, a lot of people like that idea actually. Strange, but I've seen only one or two such players in this thread.


No, the old man says things that lead you to understand the relays aren't working.  Your explanation of a fully-staffed test jump crash test just makes no sense.  They have people that are hired to do that-there are people in history like Chuck Yeager who actually perform test flights because they know what to do if something goes wrong.  What would Liara do in such a case?  Look for some dirt to dig in or someone to pay for information? 

And up until the ending of ME3, the devs also said the destruction or even the rupture of a relay would basically ruin a star system, but they decided to retcon it in discussions outside of the game because players said it made no sense for anyone to be alive afterward.

Your theory is preposterous.  Of all the things to show as an epilogue, the last thing most people could care to see is a test flight into a relay that doesn't even work and causes the Normandy to crash.

Oh, and how long after Shepard was up on the Citadel did this happen?  Years or decades.  So Shepard's burned torso is sitting in a pile of rubble for years or decades.  Uh, Shepard is still human and maybe needs to eat and pee and poop and maybe needs medical care.  The cutscene shows Shepard taking a gasp AFTER the Normandy crashes on that planet.

How could help get to the crashed Normandy that supposedly went through a relay to test it and found it wasn't working? 


Well, I believe that all theory's opposition concentrated on the main counter-argument: you think that BioWare really decided to destroy Mass Realays forever...

...No games in ME Universe are even in development right now I think (or maybe a new project is just in pre-production stage right now). So even BioWare can't really answer us if they really want to remove Mass Relays from ME Universe forever. Game's concepts could be changed many times. Especially on very early stages of the development.

...So, be ready for some possible surprises, people.

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Seival wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

Seival wrote...


Actually, Old Man and a Child scene strongly suggests that people already have ways to travel between clusters. Also Old Man says that not entire galaxy yet explored. And new explorers still could find alot of amazing things out there.

I already answered questions about importance of full-staffed test-jumps in FAQ, so I'll not repeat the answers here. And I think that removing Mass Relays from the ME Universe forever is not a good idea. I believe that BioWare never wanted to do so...

...And my theory actually supports not just Normandy Crash scene. It supports Mass Relays for future ME Universe based games. As far as I know, a lot of people like that idea actually. Strange, but I've seen only one or two such players in this thread.


No, the old man says things that lead you to understand the relays aren't working.  Your explanation of a fully-staffed test jump crash test just makes no sense.  They have people that are hired to do that-there are people in history like Chuck Yeager who actually perform test flights because they know what to do if something goes wrong.  What would Liara do in such a case?  Look for some dirt to dig in or someone to pay for information? 

And up until the ending of ME3, the devs also said the destruction or even the rupture of a relay would basically ruin a star system, but they decided to retcon it in discussions outside of the game because players said it made no sense for anyone to be alive afterward.

Your theory is preposterous.  Of all the things to show as an epilogue, the last thing most people could care to see is a test flight into a relay that doesn't even work and causes the Normandy to crash.

Oh, and how long after Shepard was up on the Citadel did this happen?  Years or decades.  So Shepard's burned torso is sitting in a pile of rubble for years or decades.  Uh, Shepard is still human and maybe needs to eat and pee and poop and maybe needs medical care.  The cutscene shows Shepard taking a gasp AFTER the Normandy crashes on that planet.

How could help get to the crashed Normandy that supposedly went through a relay to test it and found it wasn't working? 


Well, I believe that all theory's opposition concentrated on the main counter-argument: you think that BioWare really decided to destroy Mass Realays forever...

...No games in ME Universe are even in development right now I think (or maybe a new project is just in pre-production stage right now). So even BioWare can't really answer us if they really want to remove Mass Relays from ME Universe forever. Game's concepts could be changed many times. Especially on very early stages of the development.

...So, be ready for some possible surprises, people.


Erm, Bioware did destroy the mass relays forever according to what we saw.. :mellow:

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This garbage thread is still up?