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[Comguard2]

You see this thread Bioware? Are you happy what you've done?

Do you see us speculating?

[squee365]

ArikadOdakirA wrote...

My sides.

[Manton-X2]

Sauruz wrote...

OP really succeeded in making people laugh.
The joke really has the perfect setup. First you're nodding along as all but the last frame make sense, while you're starting to wonder where it's supposed to go since they expose everything that doesn't make sense about the crash scene. But then, wham, comes the last frame and throws all logic out the window. Just like the ending, it attempts to explain some weird new concept that has never been mentioned before, and all that in like 5 lines.

You know, I think you're on to something with this.  I've seen this before ...............................

...... did Casey Hudson start this thread?

[templarfrost]

KiroKatashi wrote...

Seival has done something I did not think possible, create a theory on the ending that everyone agrees would make the ending make even less sense than it already does.

This.

[SackofCat]

I don't believe this theory is accurate but I will try to interpret the OP or maybe I will help him/her.

The synthesis energy does the synthesizing which lead to green circuitry on skin, eyes, leaves, and, I'm told, hats. That's obvious. Perhaps some or all people can control whether it is visible or not. Maybe it is similar to flushing or an allergic reaction post synthesis. I still prefer the Joker-is-mating hypothesis but I can understand why it might not be for everybody.

As for why the Normandy is doing a test flight with you're squadmates...
It could be that the remains of reapers/Shepard-catalyst/super smart synthesized people helped advance ship design so far and so fast that the Bormandy is now a clunker. In destroy, unmanned drones might have been destroyed. In control, maybe Shepard's new perspective makes him think that using advanced machines to perform dangerous functions for the benefit of organics is discriminatory. Maybe in synthesis, there is no distinction between drones and people. As for why they didn't use dogs, maybe in the future people treat their pets with the same respect and dignity as any other species except in synthesis where, again, there is no distinction.

Perhaps Joker got demoted for fraternizing with the ship and his squadmates were punished for letting Shepard die/get injured/become the catalyst. The teammates you had during the conduit run ditched you and the rest were dickking around at the FOB instead of helping you.

Another interpretation is that it is symbolic. It communicates the state of the crew, reassures you that intra-galactic travel is being rebuilt. I mean, it would not be much of a stretch to argue that the scene immediately following this one is symbolic for any number of reasons or ways. Rebirth, freedom and wonder without the threat of extinction, your teammates kept in touch, Adam and Eve, take your pick. I could make up a lot of other stuff if need be.

Almost anything can be made to seem to make sense. Vague imagery leads to people making stuff up where the author/artist didn't. Speculation for everybody, indeed.

The OP may be wrong, but that doesn't mean he/she is stupid or a troll.

[SackofCat]

To clarify, even if the crash takes place a year after the crucible blast, I believe Joker's difference in skin between the crash and his exit from the ship is accounted for under the conditions a proposed. Also, synthesis could have made him more susceptible to jungle fever.

[Rodia Driftwood]

Wow.. the BS is strong in this one.

[Slayer299]

No OP, what the Normandy was doing was trying to slingshot themselves around the sun so that they could go back in time before any of ME3 happened!

[Twinzam.V]

Slayer299 wrote...

No OP, what the Normandy was doing was trying to slingshot themselves around the sun so that they could go back in time before any of ME3 happened!

It's starting to make sense! What if the crucible is in fact a giant flux capacitor? What if in fact the Normandy crashed in Earth in the jurassic period?

Modifié par Twinzam.V, 05 juin 2012 - 11:33 .

[DirtySHISN0]

KiroKatashi wrote...

Seival has done something I did not think possible, create a theory on the ending that everyone agrees would make the ending make even less sense than it already does.

I'm not even confused, I'm impressed.

[The Angry One]

Seival.. I have no words. Your head is officially in the clouds.
It's admirable how you can construct entire scenarios in your head, but this is la la land. No point in debating anything here.

On the other hand, being the first topic I've ever seen with a title implying it's going to defend the Normandy crash, it is funny to see instead a scenario that tries to replace everything we see with something else.
Thus proving that nobody, NOBODY can defend this scene on any level, and this being a fandom that has elements that will defend synthesis to the death, that is an impressive level of failure.

Modifié par The Angry One, 05 juin 2012 - 12:54 .

[xbb1024]

I just figured the mass effect space compression was being broken, and the Normandt was being dumped somewhere between relays

[shepdog77]

*blood trickles out of nose due to brain aneurysm*

[Mims]

Awww, A+ for effort.

But the hilarity if bioware decided to use it.

[MaxMcKay]

*facepalms* this totally ignores the fact that JOKER wouldn't ABANDON Shepard!

[Seival]

Mims wrote...

Awww, A+ for effort.

But the hilarity if bioware decided to use it.

I doubt they will use the theory as a suggestion, if they already meant something else by the scene...

...But the more I think about the scene, the more I believe they really meant the jump through a reconstructed/reactivated relay... The scene is clearly not just some sort of "Adam and Eve allegory". BioWare had no reason to do such thing. While test-jump could be a proof that relays were not destroyed completely. 

[Lucky Mame]

Seival wrote...
While test-jump could be a proof that relays were not destroyed completely. 

If Relays blowing into bits and pieces doesn't meant getting destroyed completely, then yes.

[Grimwick]

The Angry One wrote...

Seival.. I have no words. Your head is officially in the clouds.
It's admirable how you can construct entire scenarios in your head, but this is la la land. No point in debating anything here.

On the other hand, being the first topic I've ever seen with a title implying it's going to defend the Normandy crash, it is funny to see instead a scenario that tries to replace everything we see with something else.
Thus proving that nobody, NOBODY can defend this scene on any level, and this being a fandom that has elements that will defend synthesis to the death, that is an impressive level of failure.

You know, I was thinking this too when I first saw the thread.

[ed87]

Speculations have officially turned ugly

[Leonia]

Like bollocks this makes any gorram sense.

We are seeing this scene out of context, with the current information it is impossible to understand its signficance.

All the OP has managed to do is basically explain there's more than meets the eye (but proposes no real solution to this quandry) and in fact proves that this scene makes NO sense. Was hoping to read a new theory but all I see here is more of the same "Something's amiss but we don't know what!"

Modifié par leonia42, 05 juin 2012 - 05:32 .

[ArchDuck]

Twinzam.V wrote...

Slayer299 wrote...

No OP, what the Normandy was doing was trying to slingshot themselves around the sun so that they could go back in time before any of ME3 happened!

It's starting to make sense! What if the crucible is in fact a giant flux capacitor? What if in fact the Normandy crashed in Earth in the jurassic period?

It is all starting to fall into place.

[HellishFiend]

While I appreciate the OP's detailed and well-laid out explanation, I dont believe it for a second.

There are a myriad of things that your theory does not address, such as how the Normandy survives being knocked out of a relay jump, how it crash lands without disturbing any foliage, why the planet appears to be a planet from the Zaeed DLC that is several mass relay jumps away, etc.

I believe the Normandy Crash is just Shepard dreaming up a happy ending for his squadmates since he believes his choices were real and that he is going to die.

[Reth Shepherd]

Seival wrote...

Mims wrote...

Awww, A+ for effort.

But the hilarity if bioware decided to use it.

I doubt they will use the theory as a suggestion, if they already meant something else by the scene...

...But the more I think about the scene, the more I believe they really meant the jump through a reconstructed/reactivated relay... The scene is clearly not just some sort of "Adam and Eve allegory". BioWare had no reason to do such thing. While test-jump could be a proof that relays were not destroyed completely. 

A poorly constructed scene no matter what color glasses you examine it with, but this explanation DOES do away with a few rather glaring plot holes. I don't believe that it's intentional (the way it interacts with the rest of the sequence is all wrong), but it is very intriguing.

[Vox Draco]

Ahem...now where is the sense the thread-title promised me? Is it somewhere hidden on page 7 or 8, I skipped those...

Seriously, at least it made me laugh. If IT-lers are always accused of "grasping straws" what is this? Grasping a whole haystack?

[BigGuy28]

This is more of a stretch than the IT, congratulations, you've managed to make the IT people look less stupid.