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[BobWalt]

For the most part submachine guns are way under powered.  At close range they should be devastating but it takes most of a clip to kills things.

Modifié par BobWalt, 05 juin 2012 - 06:08 .

[sUiCiDeKiNgS13]

Geth SMG has180 shots. Took 150 on a centurion to kill him. WEAK!!!

[RequiemPrime]

sUiCiDeKiNgS13 wrote...

Geth SMG has180 shots. Took 150 on a centurion to kill him. WEAK!!!

To add insult to injury....it is also currently the only SMG that can use ULM properly. <_<

[cronshaw]

they just need to fix ULM

[Drummernate]

They already had major buffs a month or so ago.

/Thread.

Just because they don't kill as fast as a -20% Sniper Rifle does not mean they need a buff.

(If it took 150 shots to kill a Centurion you must be a terrible shot... It only takes 20-40)

Modifié par Drummernate, 05 juin 2012 - 02:49 .

[StarStruck010]

Not all smgs are weak (hurricane hornet for example) and I don't think they need a buff. They just need ULM to actually work. I would always carry my hurricane or hornet if it cost me 8.5% cooldown for the rare occasion I need a side arm, but without ULM they are a waste.

[Pichsterz]

All you need is a Hurricane in your life.

Modifié par Pichsterz, 05 juin 2012 - 02:50 .

[Hypertion]

Drummernate wrote...

They already had major buffs a month or so ago.

/Thread.

Just because they don't kill as fast as a -20% Sniper Rifle does not mean they need a buff.

(If it took 150 shots to kill a Centurion you must be a terrible shot... It only takes 20-40)

lol maybe on BRONZE

[Grimy Bunyip]

for some reason the n7 hurricane has vastly more DPS than the other SMG's
in that sense you could make the argument that the other SMG's need buffs to catch up to the hurricane.

but then, SMG's would further outperform assault rifles.
tempest and hornet already outDPS every assault rifle other than the harrier and revenant
AR's need more of a buff than SMG's

[Drummernate]

Hypertion wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

They already had major buffs a month or so ago.

/Thread.

Just because they don't kill as fast as a -20% Sniper Rifle does not mean they need a buff.

(If it took 150 shots to kill a Centurion you must be a terrible shot... It only takes 20-40)

lol maybe on BRONZE

Headshots.... ya know the thing that the Geth weapons other than the GPS were made for.

It only takes like 8 on Bronze.

[Sdrol117]

No they don't. You're only ever going to use the tempest, locust, hornet, and GPSMG anyway, ad those are all perfect.

[xtorma]

Grimy Bunyip wrote...

for some reason the n7 hurricane has vastly more DPS than the other SMG's
in that sense you could make the argument that the other SMG's need buffs to catch up to the hurricane.

but then, SMG's would further outperform assault rifles.
tempest and hornet already outDPS every assault rifle other than the harrier and revenant
AR's need more of a buff than SMG's

Have to agree here, Ar's are in a much worst position.

[PsychoticBiotic]

The Hurricane and Hornet are the only Gold worthy SMGs IMO. Maybe the Tempest as well. The Locust is pathetic these days. I remember using that gun on every class in ME2, but now... It's hardly worth using on Bronze.

[Black Phantom]

Drummernate wrote...

Hypertion wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

They already had major buffs a month or so ago.

/Thread.

Just because they don't kill as fast as a -20% Sniper Rifle does not mean they need a buff.

(If it took 150 shots to kill a Centurion you must be a terrible shot... It only takes 20-40)

lol maybe on BRONZE

Headshots.... ya know the thing that the Geth weapons other than the GPS were made for.

It only takes like 8 on Bronze.

Pretty much this.

It's always funny how people whine about the Geth SMG and Geth Pulse Rifle, even though they do exactly what they're supposed to do. They're among the most accurate weapons in their respective classes, with the highest RoF. Assuming you can consistiently hit shielded enemies in the head, they're not bad at all.

If you're herping and derping around trying to kill armored enemies with those guns, you deserve to get instakilled every time though.

[A Wild Snorlax]

I tried using the locust vs reapers on gold on the geth engineer a few days ago for lols, pretty much wanted to ragequit after round 1. Between me using the locust and my friend AFK'ing half the game we ended up with a nice 35 minute reaper run lol.

I agree they need a buff, except the hurricane. Hornet and tempest don't really need damage boosts8actually I think they do but not as much as the other smg's) but could do with some recoil reductions to make them usable on non turians.

[DragoGoldenwing]

SMGs are just fine. Some of them, like the Hurricane, put almost every other weapon not in an Infiltrator's hands with SR damage bonuses behind it, outdamage everything else.
The GPSMG's purpose isn't killing things in a few shots, it's putting out an OUTRAGEOUS amount of rounds at once. If you hold the button down you will get a stupidly fast rate of fire that will chew through anything you can headshot in seconds. Try it with a Turian Soldier specced for RoF Marks with both ammo mods, it's gorram HILARIOUS.

Nah, it's the ARs that need help. Even the best of the AR lineup has a job that is arguably done better by some other weapon. They're just so lackluster there's hardly ever any reason to bring one along over some other type of weapon.

[B.Shep]

It's amazing how many people come here to ask to "buff" or "nerf" some weapon just because they don't like the damage the weapon can do....

[Atheosis]

Grimy Bunyip wrote...

for some reason the n7 hurricane has vastly more DPS than the other SMG's
in that sense you could make the argument that the other SMG's need buffs to catch up to the hurricane.

but then, SMG's would further outperform assault rifles.
tempest and hornet already outDPS every assault rifle other than the harrier and revenant
AR's need more of a buff than SMG's

With exception of the Locust and Shuriken (guns that are worse than any AR), I totally agree.  The truth is there are still a lot of full auto weapons in both categories that need major buffs, but right now the overall quality of SMG's does seem better especially considering how light they all are.

[Lord Rosario]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

Hypertion wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

They already had major buffs a month or so ago.

/Thread.

Just because they don't kill as fast as a -20% Sniper Rifle does not mean they need a buff.

(If it took 150 shots to kill a Centurion you must be a terrible shot... It only takes 20-40)

lol maybe on BRONZE

Headshots.... ya know the thing that the Geth weapons other than the GPS were made for.

It only takes like 8 on Bronze.

Pretty much this.

It's always funny how people whine about the Geth SMG and Geth Pulse Rifle, even though they do exactly what they're supposed to do. They're among the most accurate weapons in their respective classes, with the highest RoF. Assuming you can consistiently hit shielded enemies in the head, they're not bad at all.

If you're herping and derping around trying to kill armored enemies with those guns, you deserve to get instakilled every time though.

Because, you know, we can just leave all the armored targets alone. They can live and we can just kill everything else to win, right? *Cough*

[Atheosis]

B.Shep wrote...

It's amazing how many people come here to ask to "buff" or "nerf" some weapon just because they don't like the damage the weapon can do....

Why would anyone like the damage a gun can do when it does virtually no damage?

[IonSilverbolt]

Most SMG's are good considering their weight. Except for the Locust.

Some of the standard assault rifles stink by comparison. I can do more damage with a tempest than I can with a Mattock. And it weighs less and has a ton more ammo.

[Atheosis]

Lord Rosario wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

Hypertion wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

They already had major buffs a month or so ago.

/Thread.

Just because they don't kill as fast as a -20% Sniper Rifle does not mean they need a buff.

(If it took 150 shots to kill a Centurion you must be a terrible shot... It only takes 20-40)

lol maybe on BRONZE

Headshots.... ya know the thing that the Geth weapons other than the GPS were made for.

It only takes like 8 on Bronze.

Pretty much this.

It's always funny how people whine about the Geth SMG and Geth Pulse Rifle, even though they do exactly what they're supposed to do. They're among the most accurate weapons in their respective classes, with the highest RoF. Assuming you can consistiently hit shielded enemies in the head, they're not bad at all.

If you're herping and derping around trying to kill armored enemies with those guns, you deserve to get instakilled every time though.

Because, you know, we can just leave all the armored targets alone. They can live and we can just kill everything else to win, right? *Cough*

Or you could carry two weapons.  I mean SMG's are all extremely light after all...

[Drummernate]

Lord Rosario wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

Hypertion wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

They already had major buffs a month or so ago.

/Thread.

Just because they don't kill as fast as a -20% Sniper Rifle does not mean they need a buff.

(If it took 150 shots to kill a Centurion you must be a terrible shot... It only takes 20-40)

lol maybe on BRONZE

Headshots.... ya know the thing that the Geth weapons other than the GPS were made for.

It only takes like 8 on Bronze.

Pretty much this.

It's always funny how people whine about the Geth SMG and Geth Pulse Rifle, even though they do exactly what they're supposed to do. They're among the most accurate weapons in their respective classes, with the highest RoF. Assuming you can consistiently hit shielded enemies in the head, they're not bad at all.

If you're herping and derping around trying to kill armored enemies with those guns, you deserve to get instakilled every time though.

Because, you know, we can just leave all the armored targets alone. They can live and we can just kill everything else to win, right? *Cough*

Carnifex.

Problems solved.

[Fox-snipe]

Ashen Earth wrote...
If you're herping and derping around trying to kill armored enemies with those guns, you deserve to get instakilled every time though.

I get great enjoyment out of killing an Atlas with the Geth SMG.  Yes it's on Bronze, but it's just so amusing.  Takes a lot of ammo to do it though since my Geth SMG is level III and I use Thermal Clip & Mag mods just for shiggles.

[Black Phantom]

Lord Rosario wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

Hypertion wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

They already had major buffs a month or so ago.

/Thread.

Just because they don't kill as fast as a -20% Sniper Rifle does not mean they need a buff.

(If it took 150 shots to kill a Centurion you must be a terrible shot... It only takes 20-40)

lol maybe on BRONZE

Headshots.... ya know the thing that the Geth weapons other than the GPS were made for.

It only takes like 8 on Bronze.

Pretty much this.

It's always funny how people whine about the Geth SMG and Geth Pulse Rifle, even though they do exactly what they're supposed to do. They're among the most accurate weapons in their respective classes, with the highest RoF. Assuming you can consistiently hit shielded enemies in the head, they're not bad at all.

If you're herping and derping around trying to kill armored enemies with those guns, you deserve to get instakilled every time though.

Because, you know, we can just leave all the armored targets alone. They can live and we can just kill everything else to win, right? *Cough*

Or you could *gasp*

Bring a pistol with an AP mod for armor.

Or debuff with Warp if you have it.
Or use an armor weakening ammo type.

It's not a hard concept really.