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[Grimy Bunyip]

lol, once again rosario, no. wrong.

[Fox-snipe]

PoetryAvenger wrote...

Seriously how are you claiming the Tempest is terrible when you claimed just an hour ago that the Eagle was "one of the best" in it's category?

Eagle is a fully-auto Pistol that saves fingers.  That's about it.

Drummernate wrote...
The small enemies actually have the highest potential to down you on Gold.

DAMN SWARMERS!!

[Lord Rosario]

PoetryAvenger wrote...

Seriously how are you claiming the Tempest is terrible when you claimed just an hour ago that the Eagle was "one of the best" in it's category?

Eagle does a lot more damage than any smg... it's not great, but then again, most pistols aren't either.

[Drummernate]

Fox-snipe wrote...

DAMN SWARMERS!!

Geth everywhere dread the name....

[Rodia Driftwood]

They need to fix the ULM. They don't need a buff. They are good the way they are.

[Lord Rosario]

Fox-snipe wrote...

DAMN SWARMERS!!

Don't forget that acid blood.

[Farmtech-Ru]

To the author: Are you frigging kidding!!!!~!????

SMGs are already as damaging as assault rifles, while beating their ammo capacity with proper mods. I can outdamage a revenant using smgs up to silver, and that with them being pocket sized. Please spare my brain, it does not need trolling.

[PoetryAvenger]

Lord Rosario wrote...

PoetryAvenger wrote...

Seriously how are you claiming the Tempest is terrible when you claimed just an hour ago that the Eagle was "one of the best" in it's category?

Eagle does a lot more damage than any smg... it's not great, but then again, most pistols aren't either.

I don't know what world you live in exactly, but it sounds like a terrifying place.

Just out of curiousity, are you basing your assumption of the Eagle's worth off of the gradient bars listed under the weapons in the loadout screen? Because those have a habit of lying to you.

[Javo2357]

modok8 wrote...

they just need to fix ULM

This.
They aren't supposed to do much damage, they should be good sidearms except ULM doesn't work . <_<
But seriously, some are stronger than AR's lol, if any weapon type needs a buff it's AR's

[XxLemonheadxX90]

i think u guys need to recheck ur games ps3's ulm material is working on my hurricane O.o

[PoetryAvenger]

XxLemonheadxX90 wrote...

i think u guys need to recheck ur games ps3's ulm material is working on my hurricane O.o

Someone's going to say it, but; equip your preferred SMG without the ULM mod and open your Powers screen. Look at the recharge time for one of your powers. Then, put ULM on the SMG and check the power again. If you see a listed decrease in recharge speed, then congratulations! If not, well, too bad.

[XxLemonheadxX90]

PoetryAvenger wrote...

XxLemonheadxX90 wrote...

i think u guys need to recheck ur games ps3's ulm material is working on my hurricane O.o

Someone's going to say it, but; equip your preferred SMG without the ULM mod and open your Powers screen. Look at the recharge time for one of your powers. Then, put ULM on the SMG and check the power again. If you see a listed decrease in recharge speed, then congratulations! If not, well, too bad.

im not an idiot its working now

[PoetryAvenger]

I'll happily apologize if you point out exactly where I called you an idiot.

[PsychoticBiotic]

XxLemonheadxX90 wrote...

PoetryAvenger wrote...

XxLemonheadxX90 wrote...

i think u guys need to recheck ur games ps3's ulm material is working on my hurricane O.o

Someone's going to say it, but; equip your preferred SMG without the ULM mod and open your Powers screen. Look at the recharge time for one of your powers. Then, put ULM on the SMG and check the power again. If you see a listed decrease in recharge speed, then congratulations! If not, well, too bad.

im not an idiot its working now

The power screen actually changes now. Only it's lying to you. ULM make no difference in game. It's been tested and there are videos proving this on YouTube.

[XxLemonheadxX90]

videos can prove a .04 second difference? O.o

[PsychoticBiotic]

What do you mean .04 seconds?

[PoetryAvenger]

PsychoticBiotic wrote...

The power screen actually changes now. Only it's lying to you. ULM make no difference in game. It's been tested and there are videos proving this on YouTube.

My mistake then. I remember reading through a thread shortly after the patch that included a lot of demonstration videos, but I didn't realize/remember reading that they'd "fixed" the power screen.

[Javo2357]

XxLemonheadxX90 wrote...

videos can prove a .04 second difference? O.o

Lol if it was a .04 sec difference then why use the mod in the first place? Might as well get extended mags or something else

[XxLemonheadxX90]

on stuff like the tempest and locust no real difference to be seen on video idk i noticed a big difference in charge speed between 200% with ulm and 200% without :/

[PsychoticBiotic]

Huh? Why would you use a ULM if you're already at 200%? And these tests were done with another heavy weapon equipped, so the change would be much more noticeable. Only there was no change in recharge speed. Therefore it is broken.

[Calibisto]

XxLemonheadxX90 wrote...

videos can prove a .04 second difference? O.o

Just take a slow power (like Sabotage)
slap on a second weapon and you're talking about seconds.
Show the screens side by side and you really see the difference.
(or lack of)

Back to the post, SMG's are fine.
They lack AP like the others which can be compensated by Warp, Warp Ammo or AP ammo.

I love to use a Tempest with AP ammo on my 6/6/6/0/6 Human Sentinel.
Light enough to give me 200% cooldown (or 180% with Tactical Armor) and combined with Warp Expose/Pierce it destroys armoured units even on gold.

[Apl_Juice]

A Small shield damage multiplier (like x1.25) would be nice, as well as a buff to the Locust's damage specifically. Other than that, I'd say they're fine. Most classes that utilize SMGs best would have Cryo Blast or Warp to de-buff armor anyway.

What's in dire need of a buff, I think, is Assault Rifles. The Tempest is flat-out better than most of them and is significantly lighter.

[XxLemonheadxX90]

PsychoticBiotic wrote...

Huh? Why would you use a ULM if you're already at 200%? And these tests were done with another heavy weapon equipped, so the change would be much more noticeable. Only there was no change in recharge speed. Therefore it is broken.

im sorry that i didnt phrase that correctly what i meant was asari with 200% with carnifex feels the same in game as 200% from carnifex and ULM hurricane

[Binary_Helix 1]

Rapid fire weapons in general suck. Assault rifles aren't much better.

[lpconfig]

Hurricane and Hornet are both very effective. Especially in the hands of a turian.