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[Dakota Strider]

brushyourteeth wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...
In DAO, at least, female dwarves could be quite cute. I would happily have romanced one.

In DAII the female dwarves were beyond cute - they were gorgeous and exemplary in every way. We just never saw a single one of them.  

It is a closely guarded secret, that in DA3 they are going to reveal that Sandal is actual a female dwarf who has been hiding her identity.

[nightcobra]

Reznore57 wrote...

I think Oghren might think Varric is a lady after a few drinks , since varric have no beard and have some nice jewelry around his neck.
Guess Oghren wouldn't improve Varric's view on Orzammar.

Oghren: *hic* hey there good lookin' you a umm...alone?

varric: ...what?

oghren: c'mon woman! don't make me explain myself.

varric: how many barrels have you drunk to get to this sorry state?

oghren: 3.....no, 4 *hic* hehe, that one never gets old.

*moments later*

varric: ...and then, i **** you not, hawke gets stark naked and punches the arishok in the face!

oghren: sounds like my kind of woman hehahahaaaa *passes out*

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 05 juin 2012 - 08:21 .

[JerHopp]

David Gaider wrote...

MichaelStuart wrote...
Why hate Dwarves?

Well, I don't actually hate dwarves. People say I do, however, so it must be true.

Still not interested in making a romance for them, however, though Varric was tempting.

Thank god! Keep it that way!

[nightcobra]

Begemotka wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Reznore57 wrote...

I think Oghren might think Varric is a lady after a few drinks , since varric have no beard and have some nice jewelry around his neck.
Guess Oghren wouldn't improve Varric's view on Orzammar.

Oghren: *hic* hey there good lookin' you a umm...alone?

varric: ...what?

oghren: c'mon woman! don't make me explain myself.

*snip*

   I snipped the rest that follows,because this is the moment to ask the "lady dwarf" about the chesthair.

oghren: That wasn't a shirt?!

[LolaLei]

Begemotka wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Reznore57 wrote...

I think Oghren might think Varric is a lady after a few drinks , since varric have no beard and have some nice jewelry around his neck.
Guess Oghren wouldn't improve Varric's view on Orzammar.

Oghren: *hic* hey there good lookin' you a umm...alone?

varric: ...what?

oghren: c'mon woman! don't make me explain myself.

*snip*

   I snipped the rest that follows,because this is the moment to ask the "lady dwarf" about the chesthair.

I dare say lady Dwarf's probably have chest hair too... or at least, the ones that are Oghren's type do!

[Reznore57]

Or varric could say "Wanna meet Bianca ?" and Oghren goes "I know you were dirty, ehehe... threesome ?!Bring it on .There's enough Oghren to please all the ladies!"

[Massakkolia]

David Gaider wrote...

MichaelStuart wrote...
Why hate Dwarves?

Well, I don't actually hate dwarves. People say I do, however, so it must be true.

Still not interested in making a romance for them, however, though Varric was tempting.

Give us some hope here. Other writers could write a dwarf romance, right? Or do your lead writer's powers create some sort of anti-dwarven zone to the whole romance department? 

Personally I don't really see the attraction of tall people. I don't find tallness especially repulsive but it doesn't really knock me off my feet either. The height of a person is pretty much irrelevant to me.

Of course, that means that it shouldn't matter if we ever have a dwarven romance option but I think it should be added just for the sake of inclusion. Right now the DA standard is that only humans (bodybuilder and pornstar like builds) and elves (skinnier, more model-like builds) are pretty enough to love. That's kind of a sad standard to have especially when you have such fantastic personalities like Sigrun and Varric who are very appealing to many players.

I get that having a very short person romancing a very tall person is kind of tricky for game designers but that's no excuse. It could definitely be done if Bioware would just give it some thought.

[brushyourteeth]

Ria wrote...

Of course, that means that it shouldn't matter if we ever have a dwarven romance option but I think it should be added just for the sake of inclusion. Right now the DA standard is that only humans (bodybuilder and pornstar like builds) and elves (skinnier, more model-like builds) are pretty enough to love. That's kind of a sad standard to have especially when you have such fantastic personalities like Sigrun and Varric who are very appealing to many players.

I get that having a very short person romancing a very tall person is kind of tricky for game designers but that's no excuse. It could definitely be done if Bioware would just give it some thought.

Yup.

And it worked if you played a dwarf in Origins.

[Massakkolia]

brushyourteeth wrote...

Ria wrote...

Of course, that means that it shouldn't matter if we ever have a dwarven romance option but I think it should be added just for the sake of inclusion. Right now the DA standard is that only humans (bodybuilder and pornstar like builds) and elves (skinnier, more model-like builds) are pretty enough to love. That's kind of a sad standard to have especially when you have such fantastic personalities like Sigrun and Varric who are very appealing to many players.

I get that having a very short person romancing a very tall person is kind of tricky for game designers but that's no excuse. It could definitely be done if Bioware would just give it some thought.

Yup.

And it worked if you played a dwarf in Origins.

Oh, you're right! I somehow completely forgot multiple origins. So Bioware already knows how to do it. Animations have become increasingly complicated but that also means designers can do more challenging things with character models. That can't be the problem. It's an issue of values.

In DAO we were allowed to identify with dwarves but not fall in love with them (or at the very least express our emotions like with Aveline). I think it's time to break this pattern and share the love with all races of Thedas.

[KingRoxas]

A female dwarf love interest, please.

[FieryDove]

David Gaider wrote...


Still not interested in making a romance for them, however, though Varric was tempting.

But now we will never find out about Bianca if he isn't a future Li...That would be...so cruel!

[Xewaka]

David Gaider wrote...
Still not interested in making a romance for them, however.

Internalized prejudice, no doubt.

David Gaider wrote...
though Varric was tempting.

You tease.

[TheButterflyEffect]

Naaah, if you really hated dwarves, you would have had the Deep Roads cave in and kill them all. And then the surface ones assassinated by the church because their jerk "God" said so. Or you would have left them out of the game completely.

Face it, you secretly are fond of these lovable shortstuffs.

[PorcelynDoll]

I'm only interested in Varric as a dwarf LI. There just isn't anyone else like him.

[TEWR]

David Gaider wrote...

Still not interested in making a romance for them, however, though Varric was tempting.

But... why? Surely there must be some rational reason as to why you feel no desire to even give us one Dwarven romance.

*remembers where he's posting*.

But to be serious, should we be able to play as a Dwarf again then shouldn't we be able to have a Dwarven romance to go with it, since Dwarves have a higher fertility rate between each other then they do with interspecies breeding? And that did seem to play a factor in Dwarven mentality, insofar as native Deep Roads Dwarves were concerned.

The closest Dwarf romance we got when playing as a Dwarf in DAO were the two noblehunters, through which we could have sired a child. Or Gorim, if we played as a Dwarf  Female.

Surely you must have some reason as to why it doesn't interest you? Couldn't there be ways that it could help further showcase Dwarven society, both in and out of the Deep Roads? It seems like it'd be great.

brushyourteeth wrote...

And it worked if you played a dwarf in Origins.

Yup. Height clearly doesn't seem to be an issue on why it can't be done.

Although it didn't help how bloody awkward and sometimes comical DAO's romance animations were.

To this day, I still laugh at the memory of when I saw one of my Dwarven Wardens romancing Zevran. It was just too lulz-inducing for me to not be filled with... well.... lulz. But again, that was due to the cheesy romance animations.

Ria wrote...

Right now the DA standard is that only humans (bodybuilder and pornstar like builds) and elves (skinnier, more model-like builds) are pretty enough to love. That's kind of a sad standard to have especially when you have such fantastic personalities like Sigrun and Varric who are very appealing to many players.

Agreed. I don't see why Dwarves should be excluded from being romance options.



I mean... come on! Look at that!

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 05 juin 2012 - 10:50 .

[jbrand2002uk]

PorcelynDoll wrote...

I'm only interested in Varric as a dwarf LI. There just isn't anyone else like him.

Which appeals to you more ? his silver tongue or the chest hair ?, or are you really only after him for his crossbow,she's one of a kind 

[jbrand2002uk]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Still not interested in making a romance for them, however, though Varric was tempting.

But... why? Surely there must be some rational reason as to why you feel no desire to even give us one Dwarven romance.

*remembers where he's posting*.

But to be serious, should we be able to play as a Dwarf again then shouldn't we be able to have a Dwarven romance to go with it, since Dwarves have a higher fertility rate between each other then they do with interspecies breeding? And that did seem to play a factor in Dwarven mentality, insofar as native Deep Roads Dwarves were concerned.

The closest Dwarf romance we got when playing as a Dwarf in DAO were the two noblehunters, through which we could have sired a child. Or Gorim, if we played as a Dwarf  Female.

Surely you must have some reason as to why it doesn't interest you? Couldn't there be ways that it could help further showcase Dwarven society, both in and out of the Deep Roads? It seems like it'd be great.

brushyourteeth wrote...

And it worked if you played a dwarf in Origins.

Yup. Height clearly doesn't seem to be an issue on why it can't be done.

Although it didn't help how bloody awkward and sometimes comical DAO's romance animations were.

To this day, I still laugh at the memory of when I saw one of my Dwarven Wardens romancing Zevran. It was just too lulz-inducing for me to not be filled with... well.... lulz. But again, that was due to the cheesy romance animations.

It proberly why he wont do it because he'd laugh so hard his brain would explode I would happily settle for a gorrila that ERTW can ride drunk and nekkid though 

[thats1evildude]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

But... why? Surely there must be some rational reason as to why you feel no desire to even give us one Dwarven romance. 

I imagine DG isn't interested in a dwarf romance because he (rightly) sees it as open to ridicule. It doesn't matter if it's the most heart-felt, moving love story ever written — a lot of people aren't going to see beyond a tall human and a short dwarf going at it without laughing.

It's one thing for you to play a dwarf and romance a non-dwarf. That's a choice you made. But imagine, if you will, Hawke bending over, picking up Varric and carrying him over her shoulder for a roll in the sack. It's just silly.

I'm not anti-dwarf romance. Hell, I tried thinking up a scenario wherein my Warden could feasibly romance Sigrun. I couldn't do it! I even had sex dreams about Sigrun, and I still get the giggles over the idea. You're probably laughing at that admission, but that just proves my point.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 05 juin 2012 - 10:56 .

[Issala]

So, since there's always four romance options in the game, how about this: Two humans, a dwarf, and an elf.
Everybody wins.
As long as the elf is a guy.

[Issala]

thats1evildude wrote...

I imagine DG isn't interested in a dwarf romance because he (rightly) sees it as open to ridicule. It doesn't matter if it's the most heart-felt, moving love story ever written — a lot of people aren't going to see beyond a tall human and a short dwarf going at it without laughing.

It's one thing for you to play a dwarf and romance a non-dwarf. That's a choice you made. But imagine, if you will, Hawke bending over, picking up Varric and carrying him over her shoulder for a roll in the sack. It's just silly.

I'm not anti-dwarf romance. Hell, I tried thinking up a scenario wherein my Warden could feasibly romance Sigrun. I couldn't do it! I even had sex dreams about Sigrun, and I still get the giggles over the idea. You're probably laughing at that admission, but that just proves my point.

That's a good point that I never thought of. As appealing as full equality for all might be, it would be a bit... ludicrous.

Yeah. I'm laughing.

[TEWR]

thats1evildude wrote...

I imagine DG isn't interested in a dwarf romance because he (rightly) sees it as open to ridicule. It doesn't matter if it's the most heart-felt, moving love story ever written — a lot of people aren't going to see beyond a tall human and a short dwarf going at it without laughing.

It's one thing for you to play a dwarf and romance a non-dwarf. That's a choice you made. But imagine, if you will, Hawke bending over, picking up Varric and carrying him over her shoulder for a roll in the sack. It's just silly.

Somehow I doubt that any Dwarven Male would be unable to lift a human or elven woman. Or man. They're stocky and very fit -- much of their society has them actually doing things that would make them healthy -- and can probably easily lift a human or Elf.

Now a Kossith.... well that's another matter entirely. But it'd be one interesting romance, to say the least. The tallest non-Darkspawn race on Thedas in a romance with the shortest non-Darkspawn race, known to man.

I mean... they're basically the George Costanzas of Dragon Age. Only... not as neurotic.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 05 juin 2012 - 11:00 .

[David Gaider]

Ria wrote...
Oh, you're right! I somehow completely forgot multiple origins. So Bioware already knows how to do it. Animations have become increasingly complicated but that also means designers can do more challenging things with character models. That can't be the problem. It's an issue of values.

In DAO we were allowed to identify with dwarves but not fall in love with them (or at the very least express our emotions like with Aveline). I think it's time to break this pattern and share the love with all races of Thedas.

I really have enough to contend with regarding giving real-world genders and sexualities equal opportunity in romances without having people imply they've some right to romance all in-game races as well. I mean, come on. If you're keen to romance a dwarf, just say so. It's hardly an issue of fairness.

As for difficulty, it's not much of an issue if we know the relative heights of the models involved. A DA2 romance with Varric would have been simple enough because we know that we have one human and one dwarf involved. We didn't do it because we didn't want to-- or, rather, because we wanted to do the other romances more. End of story.