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[Diablerist666]

Hey Topographer, what's your exact build? You didn't show it in the video.

[Elcor-Hamlet]

Topographer wrote...

Here's a link to my 20:31 time Solo Gold (Cerberus, Firebase Glacier) 

With two hacks?!!! 20:31 with TWO HACKS?!!! That's just absurd. 

[Karstedt]

Topographer wrote...

Here's a link to my 20:31 time Solo Gold (Cerberus, Firebase Glacier) 

HAX!

But seriously, I'm so used to you saturating the kill feed, this is the first time I've actually gotten to see what it is you are doing while I'm either waiting for you to kill the Phantom that is chasing me, or chasing a Nemesis around the room and swearing at those dodgy basterds. It's hard to beleive you have time to res me so often between reloads.

[GodlessPaladin]

Elcor-Hamlet wrote...

Topographer wrote...

Here's a link to my 20:31 time Solo Gold (Cerberus, Firebase Glacier) 

With two hacks?!!! 20:31 with TWO HACKS?!!! That's just absurd. 

Hacks are actually a better objective on solo than they are for team speedruns.

[AreleX]

we're down to 10:34 on Geth Glacier

STEP YOUR GAME UP!

[zhk3r]

AreleX wrote...

we're down to 10:34 on Geth Glacier

STEP YOUR GAME UP!

Haha, not a problem. That's our first attempt =P If we're breaking the 10 minute mark, it's gonna be against the Geth.

[nicethugbert]

Well well well, so this is the secret elitist temple where they sacrifice virgin noobs at! ABOMINATIONS!

[zhk3r]

nicethugbert wrote...

Well well well, so this is the secret elitist temple where they sacrifice virgin noobs at! ABOMINATIONS!

So you're an elitist if you try to finish games as fast as possible? Are you also an elitist if you try to survive as long as possible when playing Zombies?.. Some of us don't struggle with this game at all and challenge ourselves differently than others. There are a lot of people going for speedruns and solo clears. Just because you're not capable doesn't make others "elitists". Geez.

[velaut]

New solo record -- 19:39
Glacier Geth Gold. Geth infiltrator + Krysae X
Equipment: Disruptor Ammo 3 + Sniper Amp 3 + Power Amp 3 + Sniper Gear IV
Objectives: Disable, Retrieve, Retrieve

[sy7ar]

M4v3r1ck2 wrote...

Nice job velaut! I'm waiting to see someone solo a Gold vs Reapers, then Geth, then Cerberus in Goddess (orJade) with just the Avenger and melee, no mods, no gear, just melee and Avenger, no Healing Ops, no Medigels, no Rockets, and two retrieve objectives.   Something tells me we won't have to wait long for this to happen. 

B-but whyy?

@Velaut awesome, I tried it myself and it's not easy to fight against geth!

[velaut]

@sy7ar: Yeah, the geth are surprisingly hard on small maps. I had to sacrifice fitness for weapon damage (6/6/6/6/0) to beat Topographer's time, so basically every unit could kill me in 3 hits (troopers in 1 burst). On few attempts I ran out of medigel on wave 6...

But until Krysae gets nerfed, Glacier/Geth would still be the best setup for speedruns. Phantoms are a major speed bump for GI+Claymore and so are guardians for GI+Krysae.

My time is non-optimal btw. I can OHK all normal units in 1 cloaked shot + proxy mine, except pyros -- they end up with 2 bars of armor left, so I have to waste another shot just to finish them off. I think substituting Sniper Gear V (15% weapon dmg) for Operative Package V (10% weapon + 10% power dmg) would allow to OHK them too and save a few seconds. Saving all 5 missiles for waves 7-10 and getting 3 retrieval objectives in a row would also improve the time by at least 1 minute.

Modifié par velaut, 10 juin 2012 - 01:35 .

[plain numbers]

zhk3r wrote...

nicethugbert wrote...

Well well well, so this is the secret elitist temple where they sacrifice virgin noobs at! ABOMINATIONS!

So you're an elitist if you try to finish games as fast as possible? Are you also an elitist if you try to survive as long as possible when playing Zombies?.. Some of us don't struggle with this game at all and challenge ourselves differently than others. There are a lot of people going for speedruns and solo clears. Just because you're not capable doesn't make others "elitists". Geez.

Sarcasm man, good ol' sarcasm.  

Incredible things in this thread, and a great inspiration. Keep it up people.

That said, I think there really needs to be a categorization on solo runs based on class, otherwise all we're ever gonna see in there are infiltrator-runs. I want to try it at some point but not with an infiltrator, and of course there's no way to beat their times with other classes (hell, even with other infiltrators if we're talking about GI).

Modifié par plain numbers, 10 juin 2012 - 01:57 .

[Topographer]

velaut wrote...

New solo record -- 19:39
Glacier Geth Gold. Geth infiltrator + Krysae X
Equipment: Disruptor Ammo 3 + Sniper Amp 3 + Power Amp 3 + Sniper Gear IV
Objectives: Disable, Retrieve, Retrieve

Nice job man! Under 20 minutes is damn impressive.
Now I have another time to try to beat. Except I think Im sticking with the Claymore vs Cerberus. It'll probably take some lucky objectives ot beat that time.

[velaut]

@Topographer: The objectives are definitely the most important factor for getting sub-20 minutes time. With geth anything other than Disable and Retrieve results in 21-23 minutes. I had to make 6 or 7 attempts before I got lucky.

Have you tried hybrid claymore/melee build for GI? -- something like 5/6/6/4/5? You can speed things up on waves 1-2 when there are only trash mobs around and it will also help with phantoms later. I think 5 in fitness is enough to kill them in proxy mine + 2 quick pulses. Nemesis dodges a lot, so it helps with them too. Everything else dies in 1 headshot anyway, so the weapon passives could be skipped.

[Topographer]

velaut wrote...

@Topographer: The objectives are definitely the most important factor for getting sub-20 minutes time. With geth anything other than Disable and Retrieve results in 21-23 minutes. I had to make 6 or 7 attempts before I got lucky.

Have you tried hybrid claymore/melee build for GI? -- something like 5/6/6/4/5? You can speed things up on waves 1-2 when there are only trash mobs around and it will also help with phantoms later. I think 5 in fitness is enough to kill them in proxy mine + 2 quick pulses. Nemesis dodges a lot, so it helps with them too. Everything else dies in 1 headshot anyway, so the weapon passives could be skipped.

I haven't tried a hybrid no, but If I am struggling too much with phantoms and their damage reduction I will try a respec. The idea of taking away headshot damage makes me sad but most of the time it's overkill on a Claymore anyways.

[RedJohn]

Beautiful topic.

[Jesse]

All i can say to all involved in speed runs is i am in awe....and for those soloing gold, let alone solo speed run...WOW.

Congrats to you all!!

[velaut]

Tested a melee GI on Glacier/Cerberus a few times and it didn't work. Sure, Cloak-Proxy-Melee-Shoot-Melee combo is awesome against phantoms. I even managed to improve my usual time on first 5 waves by ~1 minute -- but it doesn't matter much if I'm out of medigels and op packs on wave 8. I just died too often. He works well in a full team game when there is someone to dump aggro on, but is too vulnerable for soloing when played aggressively. 

I had a great fun with Human Vanguard (6/0/6/6/6) though. Hardly a record (23:37), but still not bad considering that I died only twice:

Modifié par velaut, 19 juin 2012 - 09:15 .

[Kalas Magnus]

velaut wrote...

Tested a melee GI on Glacier/Cerberus a few times and it didn't work. Sure, Cloak-Proxy-Melee-Shoot-Melee combo is awesome against phantoms. I even managed to improve my usual time on first 5 waves by ~1 minute -- but it doesn't matter much if I'm out of medigels and op packs on wave 8. I just died too often. He works well in a full team game when there is someone to dump aggro on, but is too vulnerable for soloing when played aggressively. 

I had a great fun with Human Vanguard (6/0/6/6/6) though. Hardly a record (23:37), but still not bad considering that I died only twice:

Wow. You got a vid for that run?

[velaut]

Kalas321 wrote...
Wow. You got a vid for that run?

I don't have it -- yet. It was a failed attempt at no-deaths speedrun challenge with HV. Once I beat it, I'll upload the vid.

[Kalas Magnus]

velaut wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...
Wow. You got a vid for that run?

I don't have it -- yet. It was a failed attempt at no-deaths speedrun challenge with HV. Once I beat it, I'll upload the vid.

You got other vids? Cause that is an impressive time.

[Achire]

That's a really nice time. I'd certainly like to see a video as well. What weapon and equipment are you using? Wraith?

Modifié par Achire, 19 juin 2012 - 09:41 .