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So the Cerberus Harrier: what is the big deal?


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Kem1995 wrote...

Why is Stardusk avoiding all the questions asking how he got it to X so quickly <_< At least 3 people asked.


All my ultrarares had been at X for weeks prior to the DLC release. It was the only Ultrarare for me to get so getting it to X in a week was easy.

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Stardusk wrote...

zRz Tyr wrote...

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Stability + EB = DESTRUCTION
I kill faster with it than both the Krysae and Reegar


Claymore kills faster and has less of an ammo problem.


Of course claymore kills faster and does not have as much of ammo problem. Yours is propably on level 10, that explains alot. You cant really compare a low level weapon with a high level weapon. Especially those two, since the harrier is an ultra-rare and the claymore is a rare.

Just wait and see when it gets to at least lvl IV-V.


No, I have the Harrier at X. I still don't see the big deal. It's ok but there seem to be many other choices.


dude i spent over 5 million so far so many psp packs opened and i have a harrier 1, i want your luck.

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It is possible but unlikely. I am hesistant to make guides in the future because of that one video i made with the Reegar. People were literally issuing me death threats, which is really over the top. They even dropped by my guides and said similar stuff.


I sincerely hope you are kidding, but I guess you ain't...

But on topic: Isn't it an excellent choice for the FQI? I can only assume since I don't have it yet, but I really like the Raptor on her. I only hate the scope and the semi-auto thing.

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G. P. Burdell wrote...

Didn't you make a similar thread like a week ago?


Some people can't afford a diary.

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Dude, I couldn't even fire at the Atlas that last game without running out.

between the magazine and spare clips, and unmodded harrier has 15,500 total base damage in ammo.
graal X only has 15,000.
mattock has 16,000
carnifex X has 16,000

it's because you were trying to kill an atlas with just the harrier on a non-infiltrator, virtually without use of powers.
MOST guns can't do that.
the only diffrerence is the harrier unloads its entire 15,500 capacity very quickly.
Whereas something like a carnifex, graal, or mattock, would make you wait ages to empty out the same amount of damage.

so dude, it's just your own perception.
Yes the reserve ammo is low in terms of firing time.
But in terms of total damage you can deal with that ammo, it's pretty much on par with many guns.
unless you're being wasteful with the ammo, you should be getting just as many kills per ammo trip with a graal as you would with a harrier.

Modifié par Grimy Bunyip, 05 juin 2012 - 04:07 .


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spudspot wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

It is possible but unlikely. I am hesistant to make guides in the future because of that one video i made with the Reegar. People were literally issuing me death threats, which is really over the top. They even dropped by my guides and said similar stuff.


I sincerely hope you are kidding, but I guess you ain't...

But on topic: Isn't it an excellent choice for the FQI? I can only assume since I don't have it yet, but I really like the Raptor on her. I only hate the scope and the semi-auto thing.


I think a weapon based Krogan Sentinel could make use of the Harrier. Need to test it out.

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The harrier is actually a good weapon, my favourite AR right now. It's not as powerful against Atlas, Banshees etc on it's own on Gold you need something to back it up since even a full clip won't kill them. The weapons one of the best, it's just the ammunition that holds it back and that's what keeps it balanced.

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Stardusk wrote...

 Maybe I am missing something but I have played with it and it is OK.

I can kill faster with so many other weapons including the Saber.

So what is the big deal about the Harrier?


Wait... you heard players complaining about Harrier? That's curious.
It's a wonderful weapon. The best AR thus far. I has only two limitations: 1.Ammo capacity, even though you can still kill a good number of enemies before running to the ammo box
2. Weight, because since it's ultra rare you will not get it at level X soon.

Mine is at Lever II and it's doing very nicely. I used it on Vorchas and I was pleased with it. I'll try on Geth Engineer next time (Hunter moder recharge bonus will mitigate the weight issue)

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Kem1995 wrote...

Why is Stardusk avoiding all the questions asking how he got it to X so quickly <_< At least 3 people asked.


From what I can tell Stardusk seem like he has some integrity, so I doubt very much that he credit glitched. I would suppect that he bought it with real currency.:innocent:

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Immortal Strife wrote...

Kem1995 wrote...

Why is Stardusk avoiding all the questions asking how he got it to X so quickly <_< At least 3 people asked.


From what I can tell Stardusk seem like he has some integrity, so I doubt very much that he credit glitched. I would suppect that he bought it with real currency.:innocent:


I explained how. All my other ultrarares were at X. The Harrier was the only one left to get. That simple.

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zRz Tyr wrote...

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Oh wow X. I thought I was lucky to get it unlocked to 6. I gave it to my Turian Sentinel and I like it. It destroys phantoms pretty quick with incendiary ammo. On gold, even with the ammo mod, I ran out of ammo quite often.


I can believe this guy. He got his to level 6.

WTF? i don't have 1 N7 weapon past level 4 and i play alot. how did you unlock it and get it to level 6 in 1 week?

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Immortal Strife wrote...

Kem1995 wrote...

Why is Stardusk avoiding all the questions asking how he got it to X so quickly <_< At least 3 people asked.


From what I can tell Stardusk seem like he has some integrity, so I doubt very much that he credit glitched. I would suppect that he bought it with real currency.:innocent:


He already answered the question.  He basically got 10 UR's in a week.  I got 5 and I probably play 1/10th as much as him, so it's really not that hard to imagine it.

Love how people call him a cheater though when they don't have a counter argument.  I can understand his frustration.

But I have to disagree with the Harrier.  Making it as effective as a Claymore at killing things would make it crazy OP.  It's very well balanced.  Bioware finally got one right.

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nuculerman wrote...

Immortal Strife wrote...

Kem1995 wrote...

Why is Stardusk avoiding all the questions asking how he got it to X so quickly <_< At least 3 people asked.


From what I can tell Stardusk seem like he has some integrity, so I doubt very much that he credit glitched. I would suppect that he bought it with real currency.:innocent:


He already answered the question.  He basically got 10 UR's in a week.  I got 5 and I probably play 1/10th as much as him, so it's really not that hard to imagine it.

Love how people call him a cheater though when they don't have a counter argument.  I can understand his frustration.

But I have to disagree with the Harrier.  Making it as effective as a Claymore at killing things would make it crazy OP.  It's very well balanced.  Bioware finally got one right.



Like I said, I want to try it on a weapon based Krogan Soldier or Sentinel.

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On the xb controller anyways, those triggers make it hard to repeatedly fire quickly.

It's a fun and decent weapon, but nothing that blows everything else out of the water.

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Stardusk wrote...

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I guess we won't see the Harrier in the next guide.


It is possible but unlikely. I am hesistant to make guides in the future because of that one video i made with the Reegar. People were literally issuing me death threats, which is really over the top. They even dropped by my guides and said similar stuff. 



It is pretty ridiculous bashing a "high risk high reward" gun (which happens to have similar DPS to a hurricane) on the only character in the game that carries no risk in close range.

You don't even need to shoot to rock a KV.
You can beat the first few waves of gold just charging.
Heck, you don't even need to move unless you need to avoid an execute.
Put on two shield boosters and mash the charge button...

Put a good gun on top of that and of course it looks retarded.
Just as retarded as with a GPS, a Graal, a Hurricane, etc...

-scheherazade

Modifié par scheherazade, 05 juin 2012 - 04:28 .


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xROLLxTIDEx wrote...

It is easier and more reliable using a mouse & keyboard to consistently score head shots than it is if you are using a joystick controller on a platform console. Controlling recoil and accuracy of your shots is easier on the pc with a mouse & keyboard than it is with a controller on a console. Is it still possible on a console? Yes, but it is harder.

People often overlook this fact when comparing guns.


I dont think its any problem controlling recoil with a controller. Of course handling with a controller is going to be harder if you are not used to it.

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scheherazade wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

I guess we won't see the Harrier in the next guide.


It is possible but unlikely. I am hesistant to make guides in the future because of that one video i made with the Reegar. People were literally issuing me death threats, which is really over the top. They even dropped by my guides and said similar stuff. 



It is pretty ridiculous bashing a "high risk high reward" gun (which happens to have similar DPS to a hurricane) on the only character in the game that carries no risk in close range.

You don't even need to shoot to rock a KV.
You can beat the first few waves of gold just charging.
Heck, you don't even need to move unless you need to avoid an execute.
Put on two shield boosters and mash the charge button...

Put a good gun on top of that and of course it looks retarded.
Just as retarded as with a GPS, a Graal, a Hurricane, etc...

-scheherazade



Does that warrant death threats?

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Stardusk wrote...

scheherazade wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

I guess we won't see the Harrier in the next guide.


It is possible but unlikely. I am hesistant to make guides in the future because of that one video i made with the Reegar. People were literally issuing me death threats, which is really over the top. They even dropped by my guides and said similar stuff. 



It is pretty ridiculous bashing a "high risk high reward" gun (which happens to have similar DPS to a hurricane) on the only character in the game that carries no risk in close range.

You don't even need to shoot to rock a KV.
You can beat the first few waves of gold just charging.
Heck, you don't even need to move unless you need to avoid an execute.
Put on two shield boosters and mash the charge button...

Put a good gun on top of that and of course it looks retarded.
Just as retarded as with a GPS, a Graal, a Hurricane, etc...

-scheherazade



Does that warrant death threats?


No, that's just stupid.

A whole new level of stupid.

-scheherazade

Modifié par scheherazade, 05 juin 2012 - 04:29 .


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nuculerman wrote...

Immortal Strife wrote...

Kem1995 wrote...

Why is Stardusk avoiding all the questions asking how he got it to X so quickly <_< At least 3 people asked.


From what I can tell Stardusk seem like he has some integrity, so I doubt very much that he credit glitched. I would suppect that he bought it with real currency.:innocent:


He already answered the question.  He basically got 10 UR's in a week.  I got 5 and I probably play 1/10th as much as him, so it's really not that hard to imagine it.

Love how people call him a cheater though when they don't have a counter argument.  I can understand his frustration.


I've been doing a lot of gold runs in the last week, and I think I've gotten around ten urs too. All from credits earned from playing.

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Funny I could say the same about the reeger. It's ok, but there are better things.

And I do.

So yeah, you are likely missing the point in this gun. It's ok, people have different opinions.

Now you can stop making threads about your doubts, obsessed with letting the world know about how everything in your eyes is wrong and how you think they could be done right.

Modifié par Indenter, 05 juin 2012 - 04:32 .


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In my opinion it is the first assault rifle that actually handles like an assault rifle. Long live the Cerberus Harrier!

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It's good on gold unlike so many weapons and most full-autos. That's why everyone are so happy.

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Stardusk wrote...

Does that warrant death threats?


Stop poking sticks into hornet's nests, if you don't want to get stung.  Cause/effect, even if those stings can literally kill you in return.

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stardusk...
It is very simple. It's FIRST ar in this game that is AR, not some stupid grenade launcher, almost "sniper", or fully auto "im shooting somewhere in that direction gun".

See what we have in AR. 2 grenade launchers, we have saber, which plain sucks, why? because dps sucks, and you need headshots to kill anything. Try to kill prime with this gun...it's borring. Saber dps doesn't exists, It's based on headshots.
We have 4 auto AR. avenger, which is nice gun for new players. We have phaeston which is like avenger but weight more, we have GPR alias water gun, and revenenant. 800+ dps on gun with stupid recoil, idiotic spread. You need to be turian soldier to just hit somebody with this gun.

We have 2 semi-auto guns, without macro pain in ass to use because of this constant stupid clicking. And they also suck.

So now brand new harrier. Full auto, great sound, low recoil, great acc., good damage and high dps. Normal AR as it should be. That's all. Just that stardusk, it's normal, common AR as it should be, not some grenade launcher, some almost sniper spread madness. Just proper, army like AR.

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neteng101 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Does that warrant death threats?


Stop poking sticks into hornet's nests, if you don't want to get stung.  Cause/effect, even if those stings can literally kill you in return.


So yes?

Great logic there.