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[TheClonesLegacy]

Getorex wrote...

Lord Phoebus wrote...

Unless the protagonist is Asari or Krogan, no one we met in the first 3 ME games.

So it HAS to be someone in the game? 

Well, if not Jar Jar Binks then it must be that Krogan going on about whether or not there are fish in the Citadel lake.  He could go searching the galaxy for good fishing holes.  You "win" the game when he finally reels one in and has dinner.

That would be Awesome

[mopotter]

Han Shot First wrote...

It wouldn't be James.

If a Mass Effect IV were ever made the player would no doubt still get to choose whether or not the protagonist is male or female at character creation. Since James is definitely male, that would rule him out. Also the problem with shifting squadmates in one game to another game's protagonist, is that their personalities and backstories have already been heavily defined. This would present the player with much less roleplaying oppurtunities than they had with Shepard.

Also, and this is just a guess on my part, but if there is a Mass Effect IV I'm betting it will be set a few hundred or even thousands of years after the events of ME3. Otherwise the game would be set in a galaxy where galactic civilization was practically in ruins. It would also present the problem of having this major threat emerge for the protagonist to combat, just months or a few years after the galaxy had defeated the Reapers. Having these major threats emerge so frequently would begin to stretch credulity.

This would be my guess also.  Though they could go with a FO type survival after the destruction.  Hope not, but it's a possibility.  Could also go in a mmo shooter style for the next game.  Again, hope not but who knows.  I would have found it interesting if they had decided to go into dark space to make sure there were not any left behind, but don't see that happening.

[mopotter]

dunstan1993 wrote...

visionazzery wrote...

dunstan1993 wrote...

visionazzery wrote...

Arcian wrote.e3..

If there's going to be a ME4, I don't want BioWare or EA in charge of it.

In other words, I don't want a ME4.

op,   think u win the ,'boobie prize' for most negatively responded topic lol u have to realise and accept 90% of pplewill not accept or buy me4 if that happens until bioware reward loyal fans faith and hope that ending amongsy other things namely total lak of side missions amngst other rhings are addressed!

90% hmm.
Tell me, where did you get that statistic from? The top of your head or your arse...

Talk bout taking things literally hello look at the big picture if u niot afraid to what proportio of the current topics care for a me 4 u tell me i sure it occured to u that my figure is a approximation i thought it was obvious do u prefer talk bout me 4 over 3 it so premature this topic

I'll admit, I was out of order with that reply. Let me try again in a more dignified manner. :innocent:

Although a lot of people claim on BSN that they will no longer purchase a future ME game (or Bioware game for that matter), many are simply saying so and the majority of those people will continue to purchse Bioware games. Also I'd like to point out that even if you're approximation was close (However,I think not. I'm just hypothesising) to being correct, that it would only apply to BSN users and BSN only makes up for a small minority of Bioware's sales.

My approximation would be that the ME4 boycotters will only lose Bioware 2 - 8% of their overall sales.

Some of us, only plan on not pre-ordering their games.  Personally, I will wait till it's out and see how it looks.  How it ends, and then decide.  

This is the major thing the ME3 did to me.  I won't pre-order a game that may not give me the choices they have in the past and  heroic ending as well as the sad one.  I need the choices so I can re-play for a long long time.  ME3 ending has stopped my re-play dead in it's tracks.  Hoping the EC will fix this, but it's too late for fixing my pre-order hesitation.

[AlanC9]

SalsaDMA wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
Where do people get the idea that technology breaks down at the end of ME3? Nobody ever says any such thing.

Well....

I guess it depends on how magicy the space magic is that targets 'synthetic life'.

Given that synthethic life are just different variations of wirings than synthetic not-life, how do you discern with a 'big blast of doom' ? (red ending)

Sure. But if you're told there's space magic and it  works in a certain way, how do you end up assuming that the space magic works in an entirely different way from how you were told it works? It's not like destroying "Reaper technology"  is conceptually any easier than destroying "synthetic life."

[SalsaDMA]

dunstan1993 wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...

dunstan1993 wrote...
I'll admit, I was out of order with that reply. Let me try again in a more dignified manner. :innocent:

Although a lot of people claim on BSN that they will no longer purchase a future ME game (or Bioware game for that matter), many are simply saying so and the majority of those people will continue to purchse Bioware games. Also I'd like to point out that even if you're approximation was close (However,I think not. I'm just hypothesising) to being correct, that it would only apply to BSN users and BSN only makes up for a small minority of Bioware's sales.

My approximation would be that the ME4 boycotters will only lose Bioware 2 - 8% of their overall sales.

I disagree.

Histroy shows quite well how companies that get swalloed up by EA fares, and I cannot see anything that should make Bioware fare better than any of the others.

If anything, I see they going faster downhil because people are more aware by now of how EA influences game design into being poor quality when they take over companies.

They need to make a massive break from the EA mentality if they want to survive as a brand (Bioware, that is), and with the last 3-4 games from Bioware, I jsut don't see this happening. Quite the opposite actually, as there is less and less quality in their products, and more and more conveyer belt generic action dung from them.

The world is saturated with these games, yet EA insist to keep producing more instead of branching out. There's only one way that can end.

I think this could be rather subjective since I like ME2 and ME3 more than ME1. And I'm sure I'm not alone, in fact it stands a good chance that I'm be in the majority in saying that. Didn't both ME3 and ME2 sell better than ME1?

DA2 was an obvious flop in sales, but I still enjoyed it (Planning to replay soon).
(Irrelevant) And also I'm confident that DA3 will be bigger than DA:O, but I guess we'll find out in 2013 whether my gut instinct is correct or not though.

As to Bioware having better chances of.. surviving I suppose. I have no idea, but they will be around for quite a while yet I'm sure, also if everyone actually does boycott DA3 and ME4 I'll eat my hat.

Different sales curves.

ME3 was marketed massively compared to previous installments and made a huge payback in the initial release moments. Then the sales dropped dramatically.

In other words, sales of ME3 was affected negatively by word of mouth whereas sales of ME (and to a degree ME2) was affected positively by word of mouth, prolonging the lifespan of the product as something being sold.

The hefty price drop ahead of normal analysts prediction of ME3 tells that something didn't work out for ME3 in the second wave sales compared to earlier products, which seems to conflict with your opinion that "the majority" feels that ME3 is the better game. You may feel it is better, but that is certianly subjective, just like I feel it is worse. The effect on sales curves by word of mouth, though, seems to indicate that something went amiss given that the second wave sales were less than normal.

[SalsaDMA]

AlanC9 wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
Where do people get the idea that technology breaks down at the end of ME3? Nobody ever says any such thing.

Well....

I guess it depends on how magicy the space magic is that targets 'synthetic life'.

Given that synthethic life are just different variations of wirings than synthetic not-life, how do you discern with a 'big blast of doom' ? (red ending)

Sure. But if you're told there's space magic and it  works in a certain way, how do you end up assuming that the space magic works in an entirely different way from how you were told it works? It's not like destroying "Reaper technology"  is conceptually any easier than destroying "synthetic life."

Tbh, it's the concept of there actually being space magic I have an issue with

While the biotics and mass effects could be considered space magic, they at least gave decent attempts at explaining how it might come about.

With the beams of magic, however, it's practically just as if someone waved a magic wand as there is neither explanations, nor any sensible outcomes that can be logically explained by non-magic physics.

There is no ground to be able to make any kid of judgements on what the beams can or cannot affect, as they are magic for all intents and purposes. thus any claim as to what they do made by anyone: you, me, a stray dog or anyone else has equal merit.

[Redbelle]

Picture the scene....... It is Earth, the species of the final battle have settled on the planet having no way to get home. Two chaps approach one another and start talking about the McGuffin that will kickstart intergalactic travel. However, they need harald. Someone to represent humanity and resetablish galactic relations with all other species....... They need Shepad but he's dead.

It's not hopeless though, we have his DNA. We can rebuild him on the frame of someone else, someone utterly useless and with no purpose in their sorry existence can be transformed into commander Shepard with all his memories and abilities thanks to the incredible breakthrough of genetic memory unlocking procedures........... Trademark Pending.

And who is this approaching? Running at full tilt that he leave a cloud of dust in his wake? If you strain your ears you can just about him shrieking from afar......... 'Pick meeeeeeeee'.

Oh Conrad Verner. Well, I guess we could but might be dead after all the choices from ME 1, 2 and 3.

Back to the drawing board then.

[Amberion]

I think it will be a scarred-up amnesiac soldier who wakes up in the rubble of London, wondering who he/she is, how he/she got there and who to trust.

[dunstan1993]

SalsaDMA wrote...

dunstan1993 wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...

dunstan1993 wrote...
I'll admit, I was out of order with that reply. Let me try again in a more dignified manner. :innocent:

Although a lot of people claim on BSN that they will no longer purchase a future ME game (or Bioware game for that matter), many are simply saying so and the majority of those people will continue to purchse Bioware games. Also I'd like to point out that even if you're approximation was close (However,I think not. I'm just hypothesising) to being correct, that it would only apply to BSN users and BSN only makes up for a small minority of Bioware's sales.

My approximation would be that the ME4 boycotters will only lose Bioware 2 - 8% of their overall sales.

I disagree.

Histroy shows quite well how companies that get swalloed up by EA fares, and I cannot see anything that should make Bioware fare better than any of the others.

If anything, I see they going faster downhil because people are more aware by now of how EA influences game design into being poor quality when they take over companies.

They need to make a massive break from the EA mentality if they want to survive as a brand (Bioware, that is), and with the last 3-4 games from Bioware, I jsut don't see this happening. Quite the opposite actually, as there is less and less quality in their products, and more and more conveyer belt generic action dung from them.

The world is saturated with these games, yet EA insist to keep producing more instead of branching out. There's only one way that can end.

I think this could be rather subjective since I like ME2 and ME3 more than ME1. And I'm sure I'm not alone, in fact it stands a good chance that I'm be in the majority in saying that. Didn't both ME3 and ME2 sell better than ME1?

DA2 was an obvious flop in sales, but I still enjoyed it (Planning to replay soon).
(Irrelevant) And also I'm confident that DA3 will be bigger than DA:O, but I guess we'll find out in 2013 whether my gut instinct is correct or not though.

As to Bioware having better chances of.. surviving I suppose. I have no idea, but they will be around for quite a while yet I'm sure, also if everyone actually does boycott DA3 and ME4 I'll eat my hat.

Different sales curves.

ME3 was marketed massively compared to previous installments and made a huge payback in the initial release moments. Then the sales dropped dramatically.

In other words, sales of ME3 was affected negatively by word of mouth whereas sales of ME (and to a degree ME2) was affected positively by word of mouth, prolonging the lifespan of the product as something being sold.

The hefty price drop ahead of normal analysts prediction of ME3 tells that something didn't work out for ME3 in the second wave sales compared to earlier products, which seems to conflict with your opinion that "the majority" feels that ME3 is the better game. You may feel it is better, but that is certianly subjective, just like I feel it is worse. The effect on sales curves by word of mouth, though, seems to indicate that something went amiss given that the second wave sales were less than normal.

Good point, even though I knew that infomation before hand for some reason my mind failed to remember that and mention it in the post. If I were you right now I'd be thinking "That sounds like a pitiful excuse to try and cover up your dirty tracks", but that's the honest truth.

Oh and about the "I'm be majority" bit, I was supposed to correct that and put: It stands a good chance that *I might* be in the majority in saying that. Just an error on my part, but even still it seems that I'm trying to speak for the majority (That was not my intention).

You've probably noticed by now that I'm no longer disagreeing with you, can't disagree with the facts and I'd never attempt to without wanting to look like a moron. Unless of course... I utilised the Tupac Shakur argument, I'm not going to put myself through that though. 

[favoritehookeronthecitadel]

I actually like the idea of a ME 4 continuing where ME3 left off.(After ME3's been fixed and is actually a playable game). Shepard's brought back, and you can either transfer a save file or start over the game, and have the anyone that survivived ME3 depending on your actions, like Garrus, Tali, Liara, James, etc. And there'd be a different enemy, someone more intertesting than the Reapers like Saren was. I know it's stupid and it'll never happen, but that's my particular fanboy idea. Better than James Vega being the main character :/.

[dr888]

JayPlays wrote...

I think BW is more likely to make a game set between the events of ME1 and ME3. Not a prequel, but the events of each game from the perspective of a different character. This will probably give them the most flexibility when it comes to characters.

I think the only time we will ever play as a named character is if BW decide to make a space fighter game starring Joker, or a stealth game surrounding Thane. As for RPGs, I hope that the franchise retains its high levels of character customisation.

 I think it would be most sensible idea, I wouldnt mind fighting as a simple marine, alongside Geth, quarians,Krogans etc, like I hoped we would in Me3.but it wasnt meant to be. knowing EA it would be even more Cod-like, and Vega would be great as a lead, he is already a 2d character, or shoul I say:"streamlined" Shepard, no decision making from player would be required. until they fix ending I will not touch any EA game though.

[Redbelle]

Hey, could we play a Robo-Shepard? Something along the lines of a Paragon Shepardus Prime. Or a Renegade Shepatron

[SalsaDMA]

dunstan1993 wrote...

Good point, even though I knew that infomation before hand for some reason my mind failed to remember that and mention it in the post. If I were you right now I'd be thinking "That sounds like a pitiful excuse to try and cover up your dirty tracks", but that's the honest truth.

Oh and about the "I'm be majority" bit, I was supposed to correct that and put: It stands a good chance that *I might* be in the majority in saying that. Just an error on my part, but even still it seems that I'm trying to speak for the majority (That was not my intention).

You've probably noticed by now that I'm no longer disagreeing with you, can't disagree with the facts and I'd never attempt to without wanting to look like a moron. Unless of course... I utilised the Tupac Shakur argument, I'm not going to put myself through that though. 

You could always go for the chewbacca defense 

[dunstan1993]

SalsaDMA wrote...

dunstan1993 wrote...

Good point, even though I knew that infomation before hand for some reason my mind failed to remember that and mention it in the post. If I were you right now I'd be thinking "That sounds like a pitiful excuse to try and cover up your dirty tracks", but that's the honest truth.

Oh and about the "I'm be majority" bit, I was supposed to correct that and put: It stands a good chance that *I might* be in the majority in saying that. Just an error on my part, but even still it seems that I'm trying to speak for the majority (That was not my intention).

You've probably noticed by now that I'm no longer disagreeing with you, can't disagree with the facts and I'd never attempt to without wanting to look like a moron. Unless of course... I utilised the Tupac Shakur argument, I'm not going to put myself through that though. 

You could always go for the chewbacca defense 

If only I had the right avatar, this discussion would've ended before it had even begun 

[umadcommander]

i know this is kinda short sighted but, shepard or GTFO

[Huge_Beaver]

Another race, turians perhaps. We already know how human society and culture works, it would be cool if the next game focused on another race. But they should still keep the same style of mass effect and dont make it into a fps as some crazy people want. So basically what i mean is make a new commander shepard but another race (preferably a turian).

[woodym89]

Naughty Bear wrote...

SpY2134 wrote...

Clown Eater wrote...

Pretty sure it's gonna be James, considering he wakes up in a pile of rubble at the end of the destroy ending.

Right. Because when you're a femshep James will magically loss his voice and get a womans. 

He is trolling, ignore him. It's obviously Kaiden, i don't know where the hell he got James from.

Whats with the spoilers, whats the point of playing through the game if you guys have just spoilt the ending for me. It sure ain't the gameplay keeping me playing but the story and now... well you just ruined EVERYTHING. There is supposed to be no spoilers allowed in this part of the forum.

[Jiskathe kips]

I don't care really.. I just hope there will be ME4
Aslong it's not a MMO//

[Seishoujyo]

Shepard or GTFO me too

Mass Effect = John Shepard period.

Modifié par Seishoujyo, 22 juin 2012 - 05:52 .