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Xx_Belzak_xX wrote...

Firebase Glacier. Batarian teammate. Thought he was badass. He was. Mostly. Tearing **** up. But he never once revived anyone. I was playing a Krogan Soldier, and was unfortunate enough to be caught off guard by a husk. It grabbed me and I got downed by a ravager. He walked right past my corpse, even though he could have revived at no risk to himself. This happened several times throughout the match, where everyone else went out of their way to revive him.

So finally on wave 8, I let him bleed out, and started killing things while standing on his corpse. :3


Ah, now that is the one situation where I hold a grudge. You can bet I'll take my sweet time going to revive that guy...

"Sorry man, there are literally zero enemies in my line of sight but I'm just going to walk around a bit on your dying, crumpled form. Feels good huh? Really wish I could revive you, but you know how it is. Pressing spacebar is just too much for one man to handle. Can someone come over here and help me revive? Anyone? Sorry bud. Oh wait, no, I've got it."

*starts to revive*

*realize batarian died five hours ago*

Modifié par Minic78, 05 juin 2012 - 03:48 .


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I'll always revive someone if I think I can do it without dying. Teammates can be annoying, but I'm not going to teach them a lesson by not reviving them. It never hurts to have a teammate, even if they're only useful for drawing enemy fire.  I'm not going to let some idiot change the way I play, which includes helping my teammates.

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I still try to rez people.

the most annoying group however is, "I'M DOWN, I'M NOT GONNA USE MEDiGEL YOU BETTER GET ME" group.

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Minic78 wrote...

Xx_Belzak_xX wrote...

Firebase Glacier. Batarian teammate. Thought he was badass. He was. Mostly. Tearing **** up. But he never once revived anyone. I was playing a Krogan Soldier, and was unfortunate enough to be caught off guard by a husk. It grabbed me and I got downed by a ravager. He walked right past my corpse, even though he could have revived at no risk to himself. This happened several times throughout the match, where everyone else went out of their way to revive him.

So finally on wave 8, I let him bleed out, and started killing things while standing on his corpse. :3


Ah, now that is the one situation where I hold a grudge. You can bet I'll take my sweet time going to revive that guy...

"Sorry man, there are literally zero enemies in my line of sight but I'm just going to walk around a bit on your dying, crumpled form. Feels good huh?"


Oh yes. See, I'm a very nice person. But ****** me off, and I can be a spiteful bastard. :D I don't rage or throw a fit. Oh no, I'll get back at you in another way. ^_^ 

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Olaf_de_IJsbeer wrote...

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Iezza wrote...

Vanguards.


+1


I love it when one Novaguard makes the rest of us look bad and you people descend upon it like vultures and write us all off as idiots.
I don't know about you, but when a teammate dies and I will likely not die myself by going to revive him, I will revive him. End of story.


^This!

Putting that anti-Novaguard bigotry aside (seriously people and that is going to the haters, grow up!), if I can revive the fellow without putting myself in danger, I'll revive said player always. At the very least he'll soak a bit damage that is not going to hit me, no matter how bad a player s/he'd be.
If s/he annoyed me that much in the first place that is. I have long since learned that a first impression can be quite decieving, both from others aswell as from myself (that on Hydra/Cerberus/Gold match with my Batarian, I died like five times in VERY quick succession on the first wave, THAT was embarrassing, I nontheless got my act together and then started to waltz through the match ending up topscore by a fair margin vs two Infiltrators on the team), so I always give people a second and a third chance to show me what they can do. So basically nothing short of blatant disregard of anything remotely looking like teamwork and running around like a headless chicken dying every couple of seconds is going to get that annoyed of someone.


In that case, I will not move a single finger of mine to revive someone that got her-/himself downed somewhere where I don't want to go. If s/he's right beside me however and simply dying all the time because s/he doesn't believe in the value of cover, I'll revive my teammate. It's not like it would hurt me.

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Xx_Belzak_xX wrote...

Firebase Glacier. Batarian teammate. Thought he was badass. He was. Mostly. Tearing **** up. But he never once revived anyone. I was playing a Krogan Soldier, and was unfortunate enough to be caught off guard by a husk. It grabbed me and I got downed by a ravager. He walked right past my corpse, even though he could have revived at no risk to himself. This happened several times throughout the match, where everyone else went out of their way to revive him.

So finally on wave 8, I let him bleed out, and started killing things while standing on his corpse. :3


LOL, yeah, I've seen a few people like that. One was a soldier who going around solo on a Silver Geth match, he'd stand on top of you killing Geth and just let you bleed out. It was a pleasure to let him die in Waves 9 + 10.

But to the topic, yeah, I'll usually run straight off when I see someone go down. The only thing that'll stop/slow me is when there's a banshee/brute/prime or something bigger standing right next to him.

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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

I'll always revive someone if I think I can do it without dying. Teammates can be annoying, but I'm not going to teach them a lesson by not reviving them. It never hurts to have a teammate, even if they're only useful for drawing enemy fire.  I'm not going to let some idiot change the way I play, which includes helping my teammates.



Indeed! No man left behind!


Except for that batarian. He sacrificed himself for the greater good :innocent:

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rezzing is very situational. if i can, i will. if im just going to get battered myself in the attempt, all im doing is leaving the team with yet another man down. sometimes ( i play SI usualy) i get carried away and im all over the show picking people up but it does get to the point, say 3 or 4 times, that you have to say to yourself dont bother. and if i am picking the team up all the time i tend not to med gel either. it gets to the point that its not worth the effort or consumables.

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It sounded like that was his first or one of his first times playing gold, let alone FBWGG. I probably would have just explained how it works briefly i.e. stay behind the counters and let them come to us. If he ignored me though, I wouldn't revive him if it was dangerous, but I would tell him that. You learn a lot by dying, from my experience in Gears of War. I used to play execution to get used to the game; 5 rounds, kill the other team, but everyone only has one life per round. Once you died, you had to sit and wait for the WHOLE round to finish. It sucked, but it motivated me to get better and not die. It's a little heavy-handed but there are newbs out there that need that push to make them good players.

There have been one or two times where people pissed me off to the point where I'd rather they stay dead, but at the time I was so far in first place, them being dead wouldn't make a difference.

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First a bit offtopic - sometimes stasis irritates me more than helps, i.e. all the glitter somehow gets on my nerves while sniping things. Don't know why.

Second, I'm usually one of the better players in a team. If I'm not then the team is usually good enough that noone needs reviving in the devil's mouth. If a less useful player gets far away and dies, I treat reviving him as a secondary priority, based on whether I can do it without wasting own consumables.

Another case is teams defensive spot being overrun by enemy with chain of revives and deaths between players A and B. I got wise enough to know when to call it a day and make a run for it and proceed to actually do damage from the new position. Some players with different understanding of tactics might think I did something wrong.

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Minic78 wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

I'll always revive someone if I think I can do it without dying. Teammates can be annoying, but I'm not going to teach them a lesson by not reviving them. It never hurts to have a teammate, even if they're only useful for drawing enemy fire.  I'm not going to let some idiot change the way I play, which includes helping my teammates.



Indeed! No man left behind!


Except for that batarian. He sacrificed himself for the greater good :innocent:


LOL.  I'm not saying I haven't compromised my "no man left behind" policy once or twice :innocent:

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On the other side of this, how frustrating is it when you get to the man down and all pressing a seems to do is dive you in and out of cover? I must look like I'm literally dancing on a dying team-mate's head sometimes.

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how the hell did he get.. oh ya saber..


well he was Inexperienced in proper NovaBomb usage.





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People with allergies to hack/upload zones.

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its not just the gaurds. some players just dont ..... get it.

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holdenagincourt wrote...

Kataigida wrote...

Has anyone ever gotten frustrated by the players that seem to like to spam stasis to the point where they don't want to revive those players if they die?

Because it's really damn annoying when I'm about to kill something and all the sudden 'BOOM, STASIS' and the target becomes immune to 50% damage or something like... Especially when it's a phantom that I was about to devour with my GPS.


Huh? I don't know what you mean, enemies in stasis don't receive any damage reduction as far as I'm aware. I know there's a glitch with stasis where the enemy sometimes takes no damage until falling out of it, but even then it's plenty enough time to kill them before they get back on their feet and start shooting. :unsure:


If it's a glitch it happens a lot. Whenever I am shooting an enemy and they are hit with a stasis field, it ALWAYS seems like they start taking less damage, or in some cases no damage at all. It get really frustrating.

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Beerfish wrote...

I would be in favor of BioWare just giving people huge credits instead of forcing them and everyone else to play geth gold FBW maps. The guy was ill equipped for sure but at least he was trying to play the game the way his character would play instead of hiding behind a counter for 20 minutes to just earn big credits. They actually need a matchmaking service for only FBWGG matches because last night when trying to get on a gold game and actually learn how to play on gold I got the following.

FBWGG, FBWGG, FBWGG, usually with 3 infiltrators. I'd say you and the others should have went to a private server instead.


I play my GE and barely in cover doing FBWGG. So much so my squad always yelling. Lol 

I find it more annoying trying to hit the damned A button to cover and it either doesn't, or I get caught up. Just switching positions, my little turret seems to work fine for me.

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FBWGG aside I try and revive all the time however I have learned the hard way that at times it is just better to let people go down and finish a wave with the remaining if things are hairy and I rarely get upset at my team if they choose not to rez me unless I see them standing right next to by flattened body.

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During a complete mess of a game where I was managing to do everything wrong and died all too often I pointed out to people to not bother reviving me. They still did. I suppose I was a useful temporary bullet sponge.

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Farmtech-Ru wrote...

First a bit offtopic - sometimes stasis irritates me more than helps, i.e. all the glitter somehow gets on my nerves while sniping things. Don't know why.

Second, I'm usually one of the better players in a team. If I'm not then the team is usually good enough that noone needs reviving in the devil's mouth. If a less useful player gets far away and dies, I treat reviving him as a secondary priority, based on whether I can do it without wasting own consumables.

Another case is teams defensive spot being overrun by enemy with chain of revives and deaths between players A and B. I got wise enough to know when to call it a day and make a run for it and proceed to actually do damage from the new position. Some players with different understanding of tactics might think I did something wrong.

The most annoying thing about stasis is how it screws up melee.  Trying to melee something in stasis is a huge pain, and makes me annoyed at the asari who used it.

Honestly, I'll revive someone if there is no risk to me doing so, or only minimal risk.  I'll even rez AFKers, if only for the rez medals.  But yes, if it is an objective wave, then the objective naturally takes priority, as does staying alive myself.  Even if the player is terrible and dies all the time, they are still distracting the enemy.  They essentially become a living Decoy.

And yes, chain reviving can sometimes get ridiculous.  I only get involved in that if I feel like a I desperately need the help of the downed person/people, and letting them bleed out completely just means that we wipe as a team.  So I take the risk and try to rez and run, with only about 50% success rate.

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Players who decide to lonewolf in silver/gold... Or Krogans who decide to melee everything and get wiped by cannibals on wave 1... On bronze -_-'

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Hypertion wrote...

how the hell did he get.. oh ya saber..


well he was Inexperienced in proper NovaBomb usage.


DO NOT COLOR OTHER VANGUARDS IN THE SAME LIGHT


I don't color Vangaurds in the same light as the one I said in my original post. And at no point have I said anything bad about Vanguards as a whole (not saying anyone accused me of it, at least not directly).

If someone is level 17+ as a human vanguard I'd have no problem with them, as long as they aren't stupid.

But when someone is lvl 12, with an N7 of sixty, and using just a Saber 1 with no equipment, no matter what class they are, I would kick them from a gold match. And if they were being stupid and running off to try and kill things, and I was having another really bad day, I would have said/done the exact same thing to them as the lvl 12 vanguard.

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yeah we have all had those moments. though in gold i try to make exceptions unless they are incompetent or the lone wolf out for top score. though if they revived me then i return the favour. lots of factors affect my decision as to whether i should revive or not

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Only on rare occasions will I refuse to revive someone. Usually it's because they got swarmed by the enemy and there is no safe way to rez them without me dying.

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SMBTheExile wrote...

On the other side of this, how frustrating is it when you get to the man down and all pressing a seems to do is dive you in and out of cover? I must look like I'm literally dancing on a dying team-mate's head sometimes.


*Teammate has gone down*


*Sees fallen comrade beside cover, with a "retrieve the object" thing directly on top of him, surrounded by primes*

"I should probably leave this to the infiltrator but, I'm a vorcha. I don't get paid to hesitate."

"Flame on!"

*Teammate is injured*

"****" :lol:

Modifié par Minic78, 05 juin 2012 - 04:09 .