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Why Bioware Should Ditch "All Bi" Companions/Romances and How They Can Improve LGBT Standing in Other Ways


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#926
ElitePinecone

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David Gaider wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...
A bisexual relationship by definition can't be exclusive.


Just gotta say: wow. :blink:

I would normally try to ignore this discussion as much as possible, but the thing that aggravates me is the idea that some people bring to the discussion that anyone who is bisexual is inherently inconsistent and unable to commit (to a relationship or a preference), and that this colors their argument to the point where what they're arguing isn't really what they're arguing.

So seeing it stated outright could be either mind-boggling or refreshing. I can't decide.


I'm erring towards mind-boggling. 

#927
Iakus

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Ryzaki wrote...

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syllogi wrote...

So, just to clarify, the solution being proposed now to make people who don't like bisexual love interests happy is to force everyone to play a set protagonist, who would most likely be white, heterosexual, and male?

And how would this be better than more choice again?



I certainly wouldn't like it.

I want to be able to decide what kind of Shepard my Shepard is, what kind of Warden my Warden is, what kind of Hawke my Hawke is, and white kind of Spirit Monk my Spirit Monk is

What I do not want is the ability to determine what kind of Merrill she is, or Alistair, or Ashley, or Silk Fox.  Those are not my characters.


Good thing that's not what all bi LIs do now isn't it? :lol:


Good thing I said a page or two back that I'd prefer this over "hero-sexual" LIs, isn't it? Image IPB

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Ryzaki

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iakus wrote...
Good thing I said a page or two back that I'd prefer this over "hero-sexual" LIs, isn't it? Image IPB


I still win. :P

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AkiKishi

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syllogi wrote...
Could you explain what you mean by the bolded part a bit more?  If a bisexual woman is in love with another woman, she is not in a bisexual relationship, she is in a homosexual relationship.  What do you mean by "bisexual relationship"?

I'm asking because it sounds like you're saying that people who identify as bisexual cannot be monogamous and/or faithful within a relationship.  Which gets back to that ugly stereotyping I was hoping we could skip.


If the woman is with a woman she's in lesbian relationship.
If she's with a man she's in a straight relationship.

If shes being actively bisexual she can't be exclusive. Now exclusivity is something that holds different value to different people so I don't think there is any wrong or ugly about it. It's between the people involved to come up with a solution.


Sorry for the delay, watching the Euro's

Modifié par BobSmith101, 14 juin 2012 - 05:00 .


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John Epler

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BobSmith101 wrote...

syllogi wrote...
Could you explain what you mean by the bolded part a bit more?  If a bisexual woman is in love with another woman, she is not in a bisexual relationship, she is in a homosexual relationship.  What do you mean by "bisexual relationship"?

I'm asking because it sounds like you're saying that people who identify as bisexual cannot be monogamous and/or faithful within a relationship.  Which gets back to that ugly stereotyping I was hoping we could skip.


If the woman is with a woman she's in lesbian relationship.
If she's with a man she's in a straight relationship.

If shes being actively bisexual she can't be exclusive. Now exclusivity is something that holds different value to different people so I don't think there is any wrong or ugly about it. It's between the people involved to come up with a solution.


Sorry for the delay, watching the Euro's




So if a man has ever slept with a different woman than the woman he's currently with (not at the same time), would you say he's not exclusive? Because being bisexual means literally nothing other than your partner can be either male or female. It says exactly zilch about exclusivity or proclivity towards unfaithfulness - it merely says that you can be attracted to either gender.

I would recommend stepping back from this discussion and doing a little reading, or simply not engaging in discussions about topics such as this in the future. Because you seem to be quite conclusively demonstrating that you are not aware of what you speak.

#931
John Epler

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Anyways. This has gone way too far afield, so I'm going to lock it.

If you'd like to discuss romances in future DA products, please feel free to start a new thread.