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[Landon7001]

It just sucks the dev team apparently gave in.....I DESPISE FOX NEWS and almost broke something when I saw their story on sexuality in mass effect years ago and tried to make like it was video game porn.....thats conservative, intolerant, bigoted pigs for you.....it just is ashame though because mass effect was such a rich, deep, multi layered story that conatined pertinent ethical.moral dilemas and challeging, intellectual themes that the best sci fi {like Star Trek} has.....it didnt deserve that.....but yeah the under wear so sucks and is so unecesary and illogical in me 3....underwear/fox news thoughts??

[FeralEwok]

Wait...you don't shower in your underwear?

[Landon7001]

lol.....exactly......but the thing i dont understand is they went further with introducing gay/lesbian characters.....so i dont get why they caved w/ th underwear. me 2 was greatly toned down as well, even more so

[Beep Il]

Landon7001 wrote...

lol.....exactly......but the thing i dont understand is they went further with introducing gay/lesbian characters.

1. What does this subject matter in this thread?

2. You've had your Ash long enough, let me have my Steve now.

Let this subject rest in peace.

[mauro2222]

Liara is naked... for some reason.

In the future, humans are scared of their own genitalia.

[mauro2222]

Beep Il wrote...

Landon7001 wrote...

lol.....exactly......but the thing i dont understand is they went further with introducing gay/lesbian characters.

1. What does this subject matter in this thread?

2. You've had your Ash long enough, let me have my Steve now.

Let this subject rest in peace.

He's trying to say that if they included s/s to the game (something that disgust weird people and all that), he doesn't understand why naked people is left out. And my friend, who wouldn't want to see Steve naked?

Modifié par mauro2222, 05 juin 2012 - 05:20 .

[FeralEwok]

Landon7001 wrote...

It just sucks the dev team apparently gave in...

  


No proof that they actually gave in. Don't know what all happens in their studio. Also Liara wasn't in her underwear. If they truly caved in then why risk it with even one?

Landon7001 wrote...
..it just is ashame though because mass effect was such a rich, deep, multi layered story that conatined pertinent ethical.moral dilemas and challeging, intellectual themes ...

Nudity has what to do with these things? It looks poorly done to see someone showering in their underwear or not even bothering to perhaps put femshep under the sheets after the Garrus scene, but there is no rule saying that you have to show any kind of nudity so as to not betray rich, deep, multi layered story telling with ethical moral dilemas, and intellectual themes...

[Hvlukas]

It isn't hard for me to imagine EA to have introduced a new "Code of Conduct in Games" to Bioware. I don't have anything to back it up with, but it's possible to imagine Bioware caring most about the game, and EA caring more about money. If the product can be sold in Turkey or Poland, without introducing black censor bars or cutting out scenes: More money.

Everything above: unsubstantiated.

[Test Subject 58]

[Han Shot First]

I don't think nudity is a necessity for sex scenes in video games.

In the end I don't think it is any different than movies. Whether or not a scene is well done and mature, isn't really dependent on how much skin is shown. In movies you can find both good and bad scenes where there is nudity, just as you can find both good and bad scenes where the characters are clothed or the naughty bits are obscured.

For the most part I think ME3 had the best scenes in the series, despite there not being any nudity. The better ones (ME3 squadmates) were certainly the most emotional of the series. 

That being said, not all romance scenes in the game are created equal. Some ME2 chararacters get a lame fade to black. And the clothed showering in Traynor's scene was a bit facepalm worthy. I don't think nudity was necessity in that scene, but they should have at least implied that the characters were nude. Just use camera angles where you don't see the naughty bits, but you can tell the two characters are nude.

[CroGamer002]

Nope, reason for that is because Mac Walters loves Liara and others can would be a waste of resources to be nude.

[arne1234]

Me3 love scenes where pretty pg13 and the fact that there wasn't really any closure to the romance means ME3 will not be remembered for it's romances.

[Landon7001]

FeralEwok wrote...

Landon7001 wrote...

It just sucks the dev team apparently gave in...

  


No proof that they actually gave in. Don't know what all happens in their studio. Also Liara wasn't in her underwear. If they truly caved in then why risk it with even one?

Landon7001 wrote...
..it just is ashame though because mass effect was such a rich, deep, multi layered story that conatined pertinent ethical.moral dilemas and challeging, intellectual themes ...

Nudity has what to do with these things? It looks poorly done to see someone showering in their underwear or not even bothering to perhaps put femshep under the sheets after the Garrus scene, but there is no rule saying that you have to show any kind of nudity so as to not betray rich, deep, multi layered story telling with ethical moral dilemas, and intellectual themes...

I was referencing me 1 which the fox news story was about....THAT game was deep and rich intellectually and artisticly yet they only focused on nudity trying to reduce THAT game to video game porn wich was absurd and offensive and probably contributed to the toned down love scenes in the next 2 games.....get it??
and isnt love and relationships and sex a normal part of life? along with struggle and betrayl and friendship and survival,etc,wtc,etc.????  why edit it out? why sugar coat it to the point of absurdity when the violence and evrything else stays as it should be????

[Hvlukas]

Han Shot First wrote...

I don't think nudity is a necessity for sex scenes in video games.

In the end I don't think it is any different than movies. Whether or not a scene is well done and mature, isn't really dependent on how much skin is shown. In movies you can find both good and bad scenes where there is nudity, just as you can find both good and bad scenes where the characters are clothed or the naughty bits are obscured.

*thumbs up*

I would have prefered the couple being under a blanket afterwards, in stead of lying there in underwear - which would mean even less nudity, but work better over all. In general it should be the artistic merits that drives the need for nudity, rather than money or fanboy desire.

Of course I hope that one day games can be casual, non-controversial and artistic about nudity, but it's not going to happen with the current "core fanbase" (everytime someone utters "us, the core fanbase" - an angel dies) and the outraged, purist media. Not until the fanbase isn't "one" kind of people, but everyone.

Modifié par Hvlukas, 05 juin 2012 - 05:36 .

[Han Shot First]

Hvlukas wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

I don't think nudity is a necessity for sex scenes in video games.

In the end I don't think it is any different than movies. Whether or not a scene is well done and mature, isn't really dependent on how much skin is shown. In movies you can find both good and bad scenes where there is nudity, just as you can find both good and bad scenes where the characters are clothed or the naughty bits are obscured.

I would have prefered the couple being under a blanket afterwards, in stead of lying there in underwear - which would mean even less nudity, but work better over all. In general it should be the artistic merits that drives the need for nudity, rather than money or fanboy desire.

Well said.

[FeralEwok]

Landon7001 wrote...


I was referencing me 1 which the fox news story was about....THAT game was deep and rich intellectually and artisticly yet they only focused on nudity trying to reduce THAT game to video game porn wich was absurd and offensive and probably contributed to the toned down love scenes in the next 2 games.....get it??
and isnt love and relationships and sex a normal part of life? along with struggle and betrayl and friendship and survival,etc,wtc,etc.????  why edit it out? why sugar coat it to the point of absurdity when the violence and evrything else stays as it should be????

Yeah I know about ME1 and Fox News. Not sure of many forum members who don't by now.

And yeah I get it. It was never a point of confusion. I'm just saying that I never heard any ME developer confirm that they toned down all the romances simply at the behest of FOX News. There is probably more to that decision. Which neither of us are privy to.

Love, relationships and sex are a part of normal life...but not everyone is comfortable with nudity in their games. Is it kind of dumb considering the level of violence is in the game? Yeah sure, but it doesn't change the fact that there are quite a few people who just don't want nudity in their games. If BW didn't want to put it in their games that's their choice. Be angry if you want. But it not your choice. Who cares?

Raise your hand if the lack of naked bodies ruined your Mass Effect experience? Anyone?

[mauro2222]

Nice! You blow up a head - not censored, making love or a penis in view yeah... censored.

Human anatomy is so out of place, but killing isn't. I love this world.
And is rather stupid considering that the Banshee has a visible vagina (or azure) and EDI a ****** (while dressed... without clothes, she's plain, that's really odd).

I also always wondered why they show ****** and vaginas but not a penis... in movies, pics, everything, looks like the male reproductive organ is the real forbidden fruit.

[Landon7001]

@mauro2222 thats a conundrum for me between our cultures acceptance and comfort level with violence and sexuality and the hypocrisy of it....Ive been to japan and they are MUCH more open and comfortable with sexuality.....Im not sure what that says about us as a culture but it does permeate through all forms of art and entertainment

[Landon7001]

FeralEwok wrote...

Landon7001 wrote...


I was referencing me 1 which the fox news story was about....THAT game was deep and rich intellectually and artisticly yet they only focused on nudity trying to reduce THAT game to video game porn wich was absurd and offensive and probably contributed to the toned down love scenes in the next 2 games.....get it??
and isnt love and relationships and sex a normal part of life? along with struggle and betrayl and friendship and survival,etc,wtc,etc.????  why edit it out? why sugar coat it to the point of absurdity when the violence and evrything else stays as it should be????

Yeah I know about ME1 and Fox News. Not sure of many forum members who don't by now.

And yeah I get it. It was never a point of confusion. I'm just saying that I never heard any ME developer confirm that they toned down all the romances simply at the behest of FOX News. There is probably more to that decision. Which neither of us are privy to.

Love, relationships and sex are a part of normal life...but not everyone is comfortable with nudity in their games. Is it kind of dumb considering the level of violence is in the game? Yeah sure, but it doesn't change the fact that there are quite a few people who just don't want nudity in their games. If BW didn't want to put it in their games that's their choice. Be angry if you want. But it not your choice. Who cares?

Raise your hand if the lack of naked bodies ruined your Mass Effect experience? Anyone?

you misunderstand....remember how the love scenes were in me 1 and how much they showed? THAT is how thet should have been in me 3 {and me 2} and the underwear for all characters minus 1 was just jarring and weird  and no it didnt ruin the game for me....THE ENDING DID!

[BP93]

Why do people blame Fox News? Yes, they ran a "story" on the subject but ultimately it's Bioware's move on how to treat the romance scenes, not Fox.

[Landon7001]

BP93 wrote...

Why do people blame Fox News? Yes, they ran a "story" on the subject but ultimately it's Bioware's move on how to treat the romance scenes, not Fox.

I blame fox news because they do this with everything and mass effect did not deserve being reduced to how they were trying to portray it....because they are intlerant idiots......they tried to accuse lupe fiasco of being about violence because he mentioned a gun in a song once when lupe fiasco is one of the deepest, most social conscious, poetic, intellectual rappers in history!

[Grimez7]

FeralEwok wrote...

Raise your hand if the lack of naked bodies ruined your Mass Effect experience? Anyone?

*raises hand*


lmao jk

[BP93]

Landon7001 wrote...

BP93 wrote...

Why do people blame Fox News? Yes, they ran a "story" on the subject but ultimately it's Bioware's move on how to treat the romance scenes, not Fox.

I blame fox news because they do this with everything and mass effect did not deserve being reduced to how they were trying to portray it....because they are intlerant idiots......they tried to accuse lupe fiasco of being about violence because he mentioned a gun in a song once when lupe fiasco is one of the deepest, most social conscious, poetic, intellectual rappers in history!

Hint: ALL outlets of media try to spin things and create their own stories. MSNBC got caught trying to make the George Zimmerman case look like blatant racism. CNN and CBS aren't any better.

Trying to single out Fox doesn't do you any good.