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Nefla

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Then I wanted his/her sacrifice to mean something, to be a conscious choice. I would have greatly preferred Shepard doing some kind of suicide run in the crucible to kill Harbinger/disable his lackeys or something like that. Saying goodbye to his LI over the com before then end, instead of dying alone with nobody knowing what happened.

I want a hero's funeral, an N7 coffin, a mourning LI/crew. I want to cry tears of sadness not ones of frustration and confusion. I want to see the good things I did have an effect, something like seeing the Geth and Quarians start to rebuild Rannoch, or baby Krogan running around while Eve stares up at a sky free of reapers.


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I'm not saying I believe Shepard should die in every ending, or that I want him to die. I DON'T want Shepard to die. Bioware decided to be dark and edgy and have him die in every ending (minus those questionable 2 seconds in destroy if you play multiplayer). That is not going to change. What I'm saying is if they're going to kill this beloved character that we have become so attached to, have cheered on for the last 5 years, they should do it right and make it mean something.

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Zardoc

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Yeah, but there's absolutely no reason he must die in the first place, so...

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Phydeaux314

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I'm with you on that, Nef. Shepard's death felt... sort of tacked on for Synthesis and Control.

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sH0tgUn jUliA

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NO. Shepard doesn't need to die. If someone wants to grab live high voltage terminals or take a flying leap off a tall building that's their problem. I don't, so MY Shepard doesn't die.

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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

NO. Shepard doesn't need to die. If someone wants to grab live high voltage terminals or take a flying leap off a tall building that's their problem. I don't, so MY Shepard doesn't die.


Right. There is and never was any good reason for Shepard to die a "heroic death", whatever that means anyway...death is death, its a cold grave, and the only thing good about a heroic death is if it is the other one lying in the hole...

No, and by the way: Nobody likes repetitions. Shepard was already dead once, no way to go there again...

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What we have in the ending is not some noble act to secure victory. It's mostly just nonsense.

It's not sacrifice. It's simply death. And there is a difference.

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One thing is a heroic death, and the other is killing yourself stupidly.

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Kunari801

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Nefla wrote...

Then I wanted his/her sacrifice to mean something, to be a conscious choice. I would have greatly preferred Shepard doing some kind of suicide run in the crucible to kill Harbinger/disable his lackeys or something like that. Saying goodbye to his LI over the com before then end, instead of dying alone with nobody knowing what happened.

I want a hero's funeral, an N7 coffin, a mourning LI/crew. I want to cry tears of sadness not ones of frustration and confusion. I want to see the good things I did have an effect, something like seeing the Geth and Quarians start to rebuild Rannoch, or baby Krogan running around while Eve stares up at a sky free of reapers.


If Shepard must die I too want it to feel like a heroic sacrifice instead of a surrender. 

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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

NO. Shepard doesn't need to die. If someone wants to grab live high voltage terminals or take a flying leap off a tall building that's their problem. I don't, so MY Shepard doesn't die.



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Saying "the hero must-" anything defeats the point of Mass Effect.

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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

NO. Shepard doesn't need to die. If someone wants to grab live high voltage terminals or take a flying leap off a tall building that's their problem. I don't, so MY Shepard doesn't die.


for real though. if you thought that control or synthesis was a good idea you deserve to die for being a fool.

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That would have been awesome. After finishing my first play through of ME1 I felt ok with Shepard dying in the end before he emerged from the rubble in the Citadel Tower, that would have been a good death. The synthesis/control deaths are just silly.

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I agree, Shepard should at least die in a dignified manner and finally be put to rest. But, I guess to Bioware killing of a character is ending the story, instead of ending the story by having an end to the story.

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The last cut scene with grunt (yes i know he didnt actualy die, but if he did)

That would be an awsome way for any hero to die, But still ME is all about options, i still say you should be able to die, but should be able to live aswell depending on ur actions

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When I was presented with my three options, I chose destroy.
I chose it not because it was a good choice, but because it was the least worst choice. Merge organics and synthetics? Hell no.... how the hell is that even possible? Control the reapers? Why the hell would I want to take that chance with beings who can friggen mind control you?

I sat there waiting for a while, pretty much in disbelief that it came down to three base choices... and then I said, like Rambo .... lol..... "****-em!" and shot the holy hell out of the conduit.

As Shepard was walking closer to the, about to explode, conduit... I then said "This is retarded...."
You know... because when I'm trying to explode something... I want to get close to it.

Then I saw control and synthesis on youtube...
Seriously? Jump into a beam of light or stick your finger in two light sockets?

Bioware was on crack... near the end... it's the only thing I can think of lol.

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DA:O was how heroic sacrifice should be done. You should be given a choice regarding it.

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Nefla wrote...

Then I wanted his/her sacrifice to mean something, to be a conscious choice. I would have greatly preferred Shepard doing some kind of suicide run in the crucible to kill Harbinger/disable his lackeys or something like that. Saying goodbye to his LI over the com before then end, instead of dying alone with nobody knowing what happened.

I want a hero's funeral, an N7 coffin, a mourning LI/crew. I want to cry tears of sadness not ones of frustration and confusion. I want to see the good things I did have an effect, something like seeing the Geth and Quarians start to rebuild Rannoch, or baby Krogan running around while Eve stares up at a sky free of reapers.


Finally, good to see I'm not alone in thinking this way. I really didn't mind Shepard dieing, but I wanted him to die a heroic death. I'm talking about fighting wave after wave of reapers to the suicide mission track, saving all his buddies and the galaxy in the process. 

Screw setting down with his LI, this is a war, not some dating sim. What a boring fate that would be, Shepard is larger than life, rather see him go out all Cain's blazing.

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Vigil_N7 wrote...
Finally, good to see I'm not alone in thinking this way. I really didn't mind Shepard dieing, but I wanted him to die a heroic death. I'm talking about fighting wave after wave of reapers to the suicide mission track, saving all his buddies and the galaxy in the process. 


I had prepard for it before ME3 launched too, and yes, I would have been happy with a heroic death.  Fighting off waves of Reapers defending a choke point with a huge bomb, so my squad can retreat while I keep them from disabling the bomb.  Something heoric not a fracking surrender. 

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iakus wrote...

Saying "the hero must-" anything defeats the point of Mass Effect.


This is such a rubbish response that people constantly come up with, its totally false. 

Shepard MUST choose between Ashley and Kaidan, rather than trying to save them both, or leaving them to their fate. Not only that, Shepard MUST choose either Ashley or Kaidan - why couldnt I pick someone else to detonate the bomb?

Shepard MUST either destroy the collector base, or give it to cerberus, there is no keeping it for himself or handing it over to the council/alliance. 

Shepard MUST take his crew members onto the shuttle and fly to some random place while the collectors board the normandy. 

I could go on, point is, there are tons of things Shepard "must" do in the series. Mass Effect gives you choice but not complete control of the story and its narrative. 

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I don't mind if my shepard dies, but if he does, I at least want his sacrifice to mean something.

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iakus wrote...

Saying "the hero must-" anything defeats the point of Mass Effect.


Tell that to Bioware. I wish there had been an option for multiple outcomes but there isn't. Shepard dies in every ending unless you play multiplayer (and even then you don't know if he survives beyond a few seconds).

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if shepard had to die to make some dumb cliche ending the least they could have done IS KILL SHEPARD RIGHT! why was my Shepard having visions of Liara instead of Tali?

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iakus wrote...

Saying "the hero must-" anything defeats the point of Mass Effect.


this

I'd rather have the chance that Sheperd was able to live.

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Zardoc wrote...Yeah, but there's absolutely no reason he must die in the first place, so...

this

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ediskrad327 wrote...

why was my Shepard having visions of Liara instead of Tali?

Artistic integrity.