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[flamingsatchel]

Im pretty sure my computer can handle the optimal graphic settings, but I still have a lot of slowdown.  Any tips on how to get it to run faster?

Here are my specs:
Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q8300 Processor ( 2.50GHz 1333MHz 4MB )
NVIDIA GeForce 9300GE
8 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz
All running on Vista

Any tips would be appreciated, if I have to scale the graphics down...what settings should I use?

[Drewbioso]

The 9300ge is extremely low end, not really suited for gaming at all.

[JironGhrad]

Your graphics card is your problem... to be completely honest it's a low-end business card if that's not a typo. If it's actually a 9300 you'd be lucky to run the game on medium graphics and textures. Also, unless you have Vista 64bit that RAM is going to waste.

[flamingsatchel]

The graphics card is bad? Well it is the one that came with the computer. It is 64 bit vista though. What is a really good graphics card then?

[JironGhrad]

As to a "good" graphics card, how much money do you want to spend? *chuckles* There's one here that should be right up there with the 8 gigs of RAM you're rocking.

[flamingsatchel]

would the BFG GeForce 9800 GTX be good and compatible? Im looking for a cheaper graphics card that still can play games in high res. I'm just now getting into PC gaming (besides Baldur's Gate and Fallout back in the day), and I know almost nothing about this stuff.



Thanks for the help

[whtnyte-raernst]

Pretty much any $100.00 ATI or Nvidia card will run the game well.

I have an ATI Radeon HD 4650 that's just barely capable of being overclocked and I'm able to run the game with everything set to the highest.



Here's my full system details:

Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz

Memory (RAM) 5.00 GB

Graphics ATI Radeon HD 4650

Graphics ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro (Runs secondary monitor 'big screen TV' usually playing music videos while in DA:O)

Gaming graphics 2431 MB Total available graphics memory

Primary hard disk 178GB Free (298GB Total)

Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Model EP45-UD3P Mother Board

[flamingsatchel]

Okay thanks a lot. I think I will go with the Geoforce 9800 gtx...hopefully I can figure out how to put it in.

[whtnyte-raernst]

flamingsatchel wrote...

Okay thanks a lot. I think I will go with the Geoforce 9800 gtx...hopefully I can figure out how to put it in.

It's not difficult. Take out the one screw holding the old card in, pull it out, gently push the new one in until it's seated in the connector and put all the screws back where you took them out of )

Then install drivers and hopefully have fun wow-ing over graphic goodness

[flamingsatchel]

Well, I figured it out (installed a BFG 9800 GTX + OC) and put in a new power supply (500 watt) as well....thanks for all the help, Im now officially a PC gamer!!

[Gorath Alpha]

flamingsatchel wrote...

Okay thanks a lot. I think I will go with the Geforce 9800 gtx...hopefully I can figure out how to put it in.

Your shopping wasn't be over with after you get that, but somewhere. you got the word, and that was a good thing.  The comments in the thread to that point (as far as I'd gotten, before making an edit) omitted mention of a power supply upgrade to go with that hungry of a video card.  The stock PSU in a branded system is too small to handle what they suggested to you. 

Apparently, you consulted with someone else as well as what you read in this thread.  High end cards draw down high amounts of current that simply aren't available from a "300 watt" power supply (although it makes no sense, PSUs are sold by maximum wattage, not maximum amperage).  You also need to know enough about PSUs to avoid the cheap, low quality brands (which applies to most of them!)

That's the only aspect of the upgrade I don't see covered, because, "just any" generic power supply is likely to be something such as an Okia, which is as likely to destroy everything else in your PC as it is to die peacefully, when its inadequacies are overstressed, is whether you got a good enough device. 

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 14 décembre 2009 - 04:47 .

[flamingsatchel]

Well I got a corsair 550w based on reccomendations, is that considered a high quality power supply?

[Gorath Alpha]

TTBOMK, most of the Corsairs get high marks, and none are ever considered even to be average, so yes.

[flamingsatchel]

Yeah thats why I put down the cash for it, I can't afford to ruin my computer with a crappy power supply. Im really excited to install the power supply and graphics card, but it will be end of this week or the beginning of next before I get them most likely. Guess I can play around on consoles till then.

[flamingsatchel]

Installed everything today and so far its running beautifully. Thanks for everything guys!

[flamingsatchel]

It seems my system is overheating as of late. Is a 550W power supply enough to support:

Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q8300 Processor ( 2.50GHz 1333MHz 4MB )

NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX + OC

8 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz

640 GB hard drive

Blu Ray/ HD DVD drive\\

on Vista 64 bit??????????

[Gorath Alpha]

Yes, it is, what may not be adequate is the air flow to / from the case's fans, any dust buildup inside, that sort of thing.  Where you PUT the tower is important, for eample.  If you pushed it too close to a wall behind it, that will cause a major change in clearing the hot exhaust from the back of the system. 

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/340782

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 29 mai 2010 - 08:42 .

[flamingsatchel]

Okay good. I only have one case fan, besides the one for the cpu heatsink and the PSU fan, so Im probably gonna add another. Shoud it be set to blow in cool air or suck out hot air? Or should I just get two to do both. Also Im going to put new thermal paste on and was alos considering a new cooling unit for my card.



One last question, could the heat from the graphics card cause cpu cores to get hot?

[Gorath Alpha]

The current gaming standard is at least one 120 mm exhaust fan out the back, and one intake fan, either in the front, if the bezel breathes well, or in the access panel on the side, but there are cases with far more ventilation than that. 

I have one from Cooler Master with mounts for two 140 mm blowhole (top panel) exhausts, a 120 mm back panel exhaust, a 140 mm side panel intake fan, and a 120 mm front panel intake fan.  I don't have either of the top mounts populated in my case, however. 

P. S.  Sorry about that last question.  Yes, if a video card gets particularly hot, as the currently available Geforce High End cards will do (the GTX470 / 480 pair are ridiculously hot-running), it certainly can spill some of its excess heat into the CPU cooler, and also onto the RAM, as well as the "Northbridge" ASIC from the chipset (that's not really the name of the first ASIC in the pair for AMD or nVIDIA chipsets, but since there have been so many Intel pairs of ASICs produced since that name started being used, it is convenient to use it semi-generically).  . 

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 29 mai 2010 - 09:48 .

[flamingsatchel]

Cool thanks. I don't have enough room in the front to add an intake fan, so I was gonna custom cut out a place in my sliding panel for a 120 mm fan which will be blowing directly on my graphics card. If I have enough room after that, I may add another intake or exhaust above it.



See I just built my rig around Xmas and in the winter I had no problems whatsoever, but as soon as I started playing Crysis and Dragon Age on my computer for the first time since the weather got hotter, I started having overheating problems. My solution right now has been to blow a small house fan directly into the computer with the sliding panel off while gaming. But I have ordered a fan, grill, and thermal paste and will soon have a more permanet solution.



Thanks for all the help, Im relatively new to PC gaming and this is the first time I have had this kind of problem. Hopefull adding this intake fan will solve my problems if not I will send you a message man. Thanks again.

[mattp516]

I know I'll face jeers and derision for my silliness, but how much performance do you think I can get out of my GeForce 310M? Processor and memory are fine (more than fine, actually), its just the stock graphics card that's slowing me down.



More specifically, what setting would you recommend I change in the Nvidia Control panel to maximize performance?

[Gorath Alpha]

You are busily planning on beating a poor, dead horse. It's just not going to win any race, it's just too doggoned slow. As I just told someone, although the best way to gain frame rate improvement is reducing the number of pixels displayed by dropping the resolution, there are far too many cheap laptops (and in my book of definitions, anything with a 210 or 310 is automatically "cheap") with displays that just can't deal with any setting but their own native, or default, setting, else the results are really bad.

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 29 décembre 2010 - 11:30 .

[Gorath Alpha]

There currently is no desktop version of a card as bad as the 310 is, other than the 210 (the laptop 310 and 210 are almost the same), and GPU Review seldom collects data on laptop video, so I have to put the 210 next to the practical minimum Geforce (the official one only had 128 MBs RAM, maximum, so it is limited to small texture with no eye colors and no blood spatters). As you can see, your card isn't as good a that five year old antique video graphics card.

http://www.gpureview...1=354&card2=621

The 6800 was a high end card in its day, so if hasn't had time to slide down as far into the basement as where a 210 / 310 resides.

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 29 décembre 2010 - 11:46 .