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#51
toastar

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You guys should stop tyring to kill them with pea shooters or blockable powers, it only makes them flip and block.

One to the head, one to the body.

End of story.

#52
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toastar wrote...

You guys should stop tyring to kill them with pea shooters or blockable powers, it only makes them flip and block.

One to the head, one to the body.

End of story.


Or just stagger them. Then melee.

#53
Kataigida

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Use a Geth Plasma Weapon. Them b*tches can't block those. Especially the GPS

#54
Digitalis32

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Under the phantoms mask there is no face......Only Another Fist.

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paincanbefun

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Digitalis32 wrote...

Under the phantoms mask there is no face......Only Another Fist.


lol, i think it's a middle finger

#56
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Lynx7725 wrote...

Lee80alabama wrote...

phantoms are okay as long as it's one at a time, it's when there's four of them you really start to question the logic of them being so freaking over powered. Also, I think the spawn rate for them is too high. You kill them, and 4 more come dancing along to rape you. v.v The objective rounds are just nightmares because of that. I can see respawning the rabble the whole round, but bosses should not respawn at their current rate.

You're missing the point. Gold is supposed to be hard. Gold is supposed to respawn bosses. Gold is supposed to be MP's version of Insanity.


You mean to tell me the highest level of difficulty is supposed to be difficult?

#57
Argent Csero

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Phantoms are by far the cheapest enemy. Simply because they are good at doing too damn many different things.

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Digitalis32 wrote...

Under the phantoms mask there is no face......Only Another Fist.


Phantoms have two speeds, run and kill.

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I bet Phantom can block a train with her hand. Or Reaper's beam of dark energy. After that Phantom just insta-kills Sovereign class Reaper.

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QCteamkill wrote...

Digitalis32 wrote...

Under the phantoms mask there is no face......Only Another Fist.


Phantoms have two speeds, run and kill.


And Cloak, don't forget Cloak.

You can strip a Geth Hunter's shields and keep them from recloaking immdiately.  Why can a Phantom disapear even though they have no Barrier?

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QCteamkill wrote...

Digitalis32 wrote...

Under the phantoms mask there is no face......Only Another Fist.


Phantoms have two speeds, run and kill.


Did you hear Guardians found a new way to make bronze players freak out, they sticky tape pictures of phantoms to their shields.


Phantoms can hear sign language

When banshees go to bed at night they check under the bed for phantoms.

Modifié par Digitalis32, 06 juin 2012 - 03:43 .


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Hoz_Hun wrote...
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How so? Must be lag. Stasis always works for me on phantom. After I bubbles them they are not going anywhere.


Their barrier has to be down for stasis to work. If you drop that barrier, stasis is a great pick up line that says a lot of "shut up and hold still while I pop your head off. You don't mind do you? No, good!".

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I love how your weapon does at most half damage during their flip. That's right; during their flip they get a huge damage reduction, regardless if you manage to hit them or not.

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Phantoms would be laughable without their palm shield generator. Ex-Cerberus especially could toss her about like a toy with impunity.

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Phantoms can block everything except Reave.

Modifié par Biotic_Warlock, 06 juin 2012 - 04:06 .


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Master Xanthan

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Eckswhyzed wrote...

paincanbefun wrote...

Lynx7725 wrote...

Phantoms are still head-shottable.

That "talk to the hand", I didn't see until yesterday. Just got too close. Usually I pick her off a bit further out than where I was.


yeah, i mean primes and such.  thank GOD you can head shot phantoms.

you should really be able to grab them though, they must only weight 100 lbs


Phantoms are probably the easiest boss unit to deal with.

They should have an animation so that if you try and grab them, they counter and instakill you instead.

I am serious.


That is a terrible idea.

I am serious.

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paincanbefun wrote...

that, my friends, is a classic example of weaksauce.

things with heads should be head shottable.  skinny little humanoids- ie phantoms- should be grabbable

give them more health or whatever, fine, but keep the rules consistent.  smart AI and tough enemies are challenging in a good way.  cheap deus ex machina like instant kills and the phantoms repel-grenades-shield are challenging in a bad way.

Talking about rules and then worried about power creep? Dude elites aren't supposed to be bound by rules, which is part of the difficulty. BTW sticky grenades actually work (because they stick). Any other grenades can be blocked by her shield, since they are fragments of particles.

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Tankcommander wrote...

I love how your weapon does at most half damage during their flip. That's right; during their flip they get a huge damage reduction, regardless if you manage to hit them or not.

Not a bad move. Batarian gets 25% Damage Reduction during heavy melee. These are the gameplay mechanics people can work with if they are patient.

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.458 wrote...
Their barrier has to be down for stasis to work. If you drop that barrier, stasis is a great pick up line that says a lot of "shut up and hold still while I pop your head off. You don't mind do you? No, good!".


Nope, on the first go, stasis bubble get's them every time, barrier or not.
If you need more than 1 try though, things can get tricky.

And if you have the shield down, she's as good as dead anyway.

I can't stress enough how immensly detrimental to the killing effort it is to try and hit her with everything in your inventory, use stuff that works (stasis, heavy sniper rifles, stasis, heavy shotguns, stasis, batarian net&blades, AOE weapons, certain meelee attacks, stasis, reave?) or use nothing at all. Please don't make her flip&block for nothing, just pack that avenger and go, let somebody else in your team handle them.

You have no one in your team who can handle them, well, maybe it's just no your day.

As far as the cloak is concerned, they approach and attack uncloaked, and cloak when hit to take cover, so I can shoot a shimmiring head or hand sticking out, I prefer that to the geth hunters modus operandi, who apporaches cloaked and only uncloaks to finish you off.

Modifié par toastar, 06 juin 2012 - 04:37 .


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Biotic_Warlock

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^ Phantom cloaks are a little more glitched because you can still target them easily using powers.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Also, did you know you can catch Phantoms in the Batarians net? My friend did it one time, we had a good laugh.


Absolutely! My favourite way to kill a phantom: net her and then heavy melee ! :devil:

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Zso_Zso wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Also, did you know you can catch Phantoms in the Batarians net? My friend did it one time, we had a good laugh.


Absolutely! My favourite way to kill a phantom: net her and then heavy melee ! :devil:


Not your regular fishing I must say. Catching the beautiful phantom in a net! Priceless.:wub:

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And that is why you stagger or freeze them or something before you throw a grenade at them so you don't waste it.

Hence why I always use a falcon on my drell adept if I'm playing cerberus.

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robarcool wrote...
Not your regular fishing I must say. Catching the beautiful phantom in a net! Priceless.:wub:


Sure she's got a great body and a stellar set of hips and ass, but under that mask is an indoctrinated mess... :sick:

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So what? They can't block bullets. You don't need a nerf, you have ammo.