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This Could've Been Our Starwars Or Our Lord of the rings Or Even Our Strar Trek But For The Gaming Community But Now It Will Only Be Remembered For Tearing The Community Apart


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LiarasShield

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dreamgazer wrote...

If you're suggesting that the series should have ended the way those two franchises did, then meh. The conclusions for both of 'em are arguably their worst features.



Actually not what I mean but because if players still had a true choice then everybody would be able to get the ending they wanted and bioware would be more then worshipped

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The premise is pretty faulty. The Lord of the Rings is well known because it was more or less the progenitor of modern fantasy. Edgar Rice Burrough's John Carter series was a sci-fi contemporary that never had the same kind of lasting gravitas which was made evident when the movie lost about 250 million dollars. Star Wars developed cultural significance because of impressive visuals for the time and for Lucas's careful and deliberate character construction. There was a good reason why Joseph Campbell was brought in to consult and given producer credit.

For all of Mass Effect's virtues and failings people make too much out of it. The franchise was certainly never going to work to define a generation or really even a generation of videogames.

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Guys, the "/s" at the end of my post means sarcasm. I'm parroting the stupid argument against us that "u jest wants teh Disney happy endings lul".

Both LOTR and SW have overall happy endings, with some sadness mixed in, I know. I loved them both.

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Mclouvins wrote...

The premise is pretty faulty. The Lord of the Rings is well known because it was more or less the progenitor of modern fantasy. Edgar Rice Burrough's John Carter series was a sci-fi contemporary that never had the same kind of lasting gravitas which was made evident when the movie lost about 250 million dollars. Star Wars developed cultural significance because of impressive visuals for the time and for Lucas's careful and deliberate character construction. There was a good reason why Joseph Campbell was brought in to consult and given producer credit.

For all of Mass Effect's virtues and failings people make too much out of it. The franchise was certainly never going to work to define a generation or really even a generation of videogames.


Actually because how devoted or deadicated fans are to this series I don't believe that no offense to you

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Goaliebot wrote...

Guys, the "/s" at the end of my post means sarcasm. I'm parroting the stupid argument against us that "u jest wants teh Disney happy endings lul".

Both LOTR and SW have overall happy endings, with some sadness mixed in, I know. I loved them both.

Oh, oops, I didn't noticed the /s at the end. I feel stupid now....:unsure:

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 They find our lack of artistic integrity disturbing.

Modifié par JediHealerCosmin, 06 juin 2012 - 04:51 .


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well I definitly loved most of me3 saving the quarians and the geth curing the genopage seeing grunt take on the rachi and live when I thought he would die or mordins sacrifice they were really awesome moments

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Star Wars is pretty crappy and LOTR movies are boring. I'm glad ME is neither!

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macrocarl wrote...

Star Wars is pretty crappy and LOTR movies are boring. I'm glad ME is neither!


Once again though lets not try to be insulting ok lol

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macrocarl wrote...

Star Wars is pretty crappy and LOTR movies are boring. I'm glad ME is neither!

LOTR boring? BLASPHEMY! 

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The Angry One wrote...

Before ME3, Mass Effect was the Star Wars of it's generation, and it had a world that was so much more interesting with infinitely more potential than that which Star Wars has squandered.

But hey artistic integrity right.


The Angry One has spoken. 

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Coulda, shoulda, woulda.

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Leafs43 wrote...

In literary terms, if you do a huge twist like the catalyst, you do it in the middle of the series, not at the end.


Even the Matrix got that right.


This is a great point. Look at star wars, the big twist happens at the end of the empire strikes back, not return of the Jedi.

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OH PLEEEAASSE no star wars or lotr references....this franchise is far more STAR TREK than any of those {and no i AM NOT a star wars or lotr fsn}

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Landon7001 wrote...

OH PLEEEAASSE no star wars or lotr references....this franchise is far more STAR TREK than any of those {and no i AM NOT a star wars or lotr fsn}


Ok then I'll include star trek in the description lol

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LiarasShield wrote...

Landon7001 wrote...

OH PLEEEAASSE no star wars or lotr references....this franchise is far more STAR TREK than any of those {and no i AM NOT a star wars or lotr fsn}


Ok then I'll include star trek in the description lol


yes please do that....im serious, ill give you the list of reasons why if youd like or dont know
 
but just a few....its based in our reality, with humans and earth, in OUR future, based on real theoretical science and technology, you command a starship w a crew w navy ranks like star trek, its talky and cerebral with ethical moral dilemnas like star trek......

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not a galaxy far far away long ago or nerdy elves in a "middle earth" and ring magic and fantasy

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I am putting great hopes to the expansion in waiting. I am tired of all the conspiration theories. ME1 has a story, ME2 and ME3 are overprized shooters. As an RPG fan - a bit disappointing. So after Episode 2 I hoped for a step back with ME3. What all of us got was mostly a linear story with some wrap-ups. You really do not have a lot of choice in the end - whatever you do, the world you know is forever gone. I can do a LOTR ending, a bitter-sweet one. I can stand a SW ending - mostly overly sweet. But ME3 ending was more or less tasteless.

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Landon7001 wrote...

not a galaxy far far away long ago or nerdy elves in a "middle earth" and ring magic and fantasy


But it still includes other races and their struggle for survival it is in essence still fiction and I'll ask you this but please don't be insulting to what other people may like ok

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Fans tore this community apart, all the devs did was end their series.

Modifié par xsdob, 06 juin 2012 - 05:20 .


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xsdob wrote...

Fans tore this community apart, all the devs did was end their series.



Well I guess alot of us will feel differently then that but you are entitled to your opinon ^^

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I just think as soon as the first insult was thrown at those who like the ending, the first hate thread against the IT theory, ,the first thread about how the other 2 choices are wrong and players who picked them should feel bad, and the first insult thread at anti-ending folks were posted, that we ended this great thing.

That was, in my opinion, the end of the great mass effect community, when we decided turning on eachother was more important than respecting other opinions.

Modifié par xsdob, 06 juin 2012 - 05:25 .


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xsdob wrote...

Fans tore this community apart, all the devs did was end their series.


Well, in the end, if you ask three humans, you'll get at least six opinions... :-) ME has a rich universe. If EA are smart, they'll fix the story. If they are not - it is a lot of lost potential and creative thinking. By the way, hiring a new lead writer means there is a lot of writing to be done. So hold your horses :-)

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xsdob wrote...

Fans tore this community apart, all the devs did was end their series.


They promised things they had no intention of delivering on.

Fans created this community.

I will reiterate a point I made a long time ago.

Bioware gave ME a pulse.  Shepard gave it a face.  The characters in it gave it a heart.  Fans gave it a soul.

If it weren't for the fans, ME would have died out a long time ago.

If it weren't for the continued interest, wishes, hopes of people that have loved the games, ME would die out now.

ME didn't become something untill someone bought it and played it.  It didn't become something just because someone wrote it and programmed it.  Fans are responsible for its continued existence, the devs are responsible for making it worth the money.

Art, stories, and beauty have one thing in common-the beholder determines their value, not their creator.

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xsdob wrote...

I just think as soon as the first insult was thrown at those who like the ending, the first hate thread against the IT theory, ,the first thread about how the other 2 choices are wrong and players who picked them should feel bad, and the first insult thread at anti-ending folks were posted, that we ended this great thing.

That was, in my opinion, the end of the great mass effect community, when we decided turning on eachother was more important than respecting other opinions.


That "turning on each other" is minor at best, most arguments I see are respectful.  The reason this community feels a bit empty is because a lot of people left in dissapointment or they don't feel the need to be here anymore/ don't care.