LiarasShield wrote...
I would pay for the option for players to choose how they want to series to end I would pay for other alternatives heck I'd give bioware my purse and they can hold onto for as long as they like
TheNexus wrote...
The Mass Effect universe is still amazing. We shouldn't pass judgment until the EC. The fact that the EC is even being made indicates that the Bioware team, at the very least, understood that it would probably be better if there was a little more elaboration to the end. And even if it isn't that good, the game was still 99% amazing, which I can't say for most games I have played.
TheNexus wrote...
The Mass Effect universe is still amazing. We shouldn't pass judgment until the EC. The fact that the EC is even being made indicates that the Bioware team, at the very least, understood that it would probably be better if there was a little more elaboration to the end. And even if it isn't that good, the game was still 99% amazing, which I can't say for most games I have played.
LiarasShield wrote...
I just a series about choices and actions why wouldn't this end with players being able to choose the ending when most of the series has been about choices and actions I just can anyone really explain this to me?
Goaliebot wrote...
ME trilogy is better than LOTR and SW because those other series wussed out and went for the unartistic Disney happy endings.
/S
Mcfly616 wrote...
TheNexus wrote...
The Mass Effect universe is still amazing. We shouldn't pass judgment until the EC. The fact that the EC is even being made indicates that the Bioware team, at the very least, understood that it would probably be better if there was a little more elaboration to the end. And even if it isn't that good, the game was still 99% amazing, which I can't say for most games I have played.
I agree(sort of)....99% of ME3 captivated me
However.....anything, is only as strong as its weakest link.
ME3's weakest link was the Ending(or lack there off)....
That weakest link brings down the overall quality of the game, as well as the series.....simply put, the last 10 minutes of ME3 taint the rest of the trilogy.....why? Because its the conclusion to the entire saga.....and there was no conclusion to be found.....just stupidity....then credits
BlueStorm83 wrote...
--- Saying that we can't pass judgment until we see the EC is incorrect. Before launch, BioWare swore up and down that Mass Effect 3 was complete out of the box, without EC, without From Ashes, and without Multiplayer. We have the right to judge them based upon what they said and what they did.
--- A lot of people are comparing the Catalyst to the Architect from the Matrix movies. They're also saying that the Matrix had more closure. Know what else it had?
It had a scene, where the Architect gave his nonsense story to Neo, and Neo looks him in the eye and screams "Bull****!" Shep should have had that choice. That would make it all better for me.
DRTJR wrote...
actually the Star Wars analogy works
ME1 has a similar ending to A New Hope
ME2 has a similar ending to The Empire Strikes Back
ME3 bucked the trend at the worst time.
Modifié par SamFlux, 06 juin 2012 - 08:21 .
Since Asimov in my own opinion, is the start of using Tech singularity in books for the use of plot devices I'd would say he would absolutely hate the ending for ME3 since it goes against tech singularity and the ideas he imposed about it.TransientNomad wrote...
LiarasShield wrote...
I personally feel that they don't have to sacrifice a happy ending for a sad ending or sacrificing a sad end for a happy one
I mean the collector base from mass effect 2 was a pure example depending on how you want everything to turn out either everybody lives or everybody dies
They don't need to retcon the endings or get rid of them but maybe possibly give us other alternatives or other possible endings beside just the three that are there
Let the people who like a sad sacrifical ending where shepard dies and forces are stranded in sol stay
but allow the people who want to beat the reapers to go home with love interest and rebuild his or her world let that be a option not one side has to lose for the otherside to win
Both sides can win
I wholly agree but there is a serious problem with that arguement, according to the "Mass Effect MUST have a depressing ending" crowd. Introducing a "happy" ending, in their minds, would ironically mean that they made the "wrong choice" especially if introduced later. It would not be so much about choice, like "I choose to have a 'bittersweet' ending" or choosing "A happy ending." The question becomes then "Why would you choose the bad ending?" In other words, those that say the ending must be a bad, downer ending would not choose it if another option exists thus the bad, downer ending would have less of a emotional impact. It would then become a choice between "Good" and "Bad."
Thats why there is resistance against a happy ending. The anti-happy enders would rather have the majority be less satisfied with the ending if it means they can keep there depressing/nonsensical Asimov reject ending.
Modifié par RyrineaNara, 06 juin 2012 - 08:23 .
SamFlux wrote...
Oh ye of little faith.
My prediction on what will happen over the next year
EC dlc and subsequent dlc's will lend more weight to some form of IT but will not confirm it
Bioware/ea will hint at new triple a launch title for the next gen Sony/Microsoft platform
DLC expansion will hit at next years e3 along with announcement of next gen platforms
Mass effect 4 will be announced with a fall 2013 release date
All this will be forgotten by people who want to play the next installment
Believe me EA knows the power of this franchise they will not want to close off Shepard, Shepard in may ways is the mass effect franchise, he/she is iconic. It's a fan favourite like half life and regardless of opinion among many on here in the video games industry the franchise has a lot of integrity.
If you want to see a comunity tear itself to pieces visit the Bethesda forums around the time fall out 3 was released. People were going bezerk that it was a first person shooter, that it was on the east coast, that canon had not been observed in relation to the enclave and well the ending lol people went mental.
So what did Bethesda do charged you for a very good piece of DLC that finished the game how the fans wanted it finished by letting you survive and pasting the remaining enclave. They gauged fan reaction saw an opportunity to make money and banged out ending DLC. EA will want bioware to do the same
All this has happened before and all of this will happen again
Drake-Shepard wrote...
SamFlux wrote...
Oh ye of little faith.
My prediction on what will happen over the next year
EC dlc and subsequent dlc's will lend more weight to some form of IT but will not confirm it
Bioware/ea will hint at new triple a launch title for the next gen Sony/Microsoft platform
DLC expansion will hit at next years e3 along with announcement of next gen platforms
Mass effect 4 will be announced with a fall 2013 release date
All this will be forgotten by people who want to play the next installment
Believe me EA knows the power of this franchise they will not want to close off Shepard, Shepard in may ways is the mass effect franchise, he/she is iconic. It's a fan favourite like half life and regardless of opinion among many on here in the video games industry the franchise has a lot of integrity.
If you want to see a comunity tear itself to pieces visit the Bethesda forums around the time fall out 3 was released. People were going bezerk that it was a first person shooter, that it was on the east coast, that canon had not been observed in relation to the enclave and well the ending lol people went mental.
So what did Bethesda do charged you for a very good piece of DLC that finished the game how the fans wanted it finished by letting you survive and pasting the remaining enclave. They gauged fan reaction saw an opportunity to make money and banged out ending DLC. EA will want bioware to do the same
All this has happened before and all of this will happen again
http://www.youtube.c...?v=zGDisyWkIBM
that post was awesome. reminded me of this speech
BlueStorm83 wrote...
--- Saying that we can't pass judgment until we see the EC is incorrect. Before launch, BioWare swore up and down that Mass Effect 3 was complete out of the box, without EC, without From Ashes, and without Multiplayer. We have the right to judge them based upon what they said and what they did.
--- A lot of people are comparing the Catalyst to the Architect from the Matrix movies. They're also saying that the Matrix had more closure. Know what else it had?
It had a scene, where the Architect gave his nonsense story to Neo, and Neo looks him in the eye and screams "Bull****!" Shep should have had that choice. That would make it all better for me.
SamFlux wrote...
Drake-Shepard wrote...
SamFlux wrote...
Oh ye of little faith.
My prediction on what will happen over the next year
EC dlc and subsequent dlc's will lend more weight to some form of IT but will not confirm it
Bioware/ea will hint at new triple a launch title for the next gen Sony/Microsoft platform
DLC expansion will hit at next years e3 along with announcement of next gen platforms
Mass effect 4 will be announced with a fall 2013 release date
All this will be forgotten by people who want to play the next installment
Believe me EA knows the power of this franchise they will not want to close off Shepard, Shepard in may ways is the mass effect franchise, he/she is iconic. It's a fan favourite like half life and regardless of opinion among many on here in the video games industry the franchise has a lot of integrity.
If you want to see a comunity tear itself to pieces visit the Bethesda forums around the time fall out 3 was released. People were going bezerk that it was a first person shooter, that it was on the east coast, that canon had not been observed in relation to the enclave and well the ending lol people went mental.
So what did Bethesda do charged you for a very good piece of DLC that finished the game how the fans wanted it finished by letting you survive and pasting the remaining enclave. They gauged fan reaction saw an opportunity to make money and banged out ending DLC. EA will want bioware to do the same
All this has happened before and all of this will happen again
that post was awesome. reminded me of this speech
Ron Paul, who knew?
Seriously though this is what they will do in one form of another master chief was dead at the end of halo 3 now we are having a halo 4 there's too much money in these franchises to close them off imo
Mcfly616 wrote...
BlueStorm83 wrote...
--- Saying that we can't pass judgment until we see the EC is incorrect. Before launch, BioWare swore up and down that Mass Effect 3 was complete out of the box, without EC, without From Ashes, and without Multiplayer. We have the right to judge them based upon what they said and what they did.
--- A lot of people are comparing the Catalyst to the Architect from the Matrix movies. They're also saying that the Matrix had more closure. Know what else it had?
It had a scene, where the Architect gave his nonsense story to Neo, and Neo looks him in the eye and screams "Bull****!" Shep should have had that choice. That would make it all better for me.
You're right. The Matrix sequals(for as much as they sucked balls) did two things right.
Neo said "BULLSH*T".....and get this.....they had a BOSS FIGHT to decide the fate of the world!!!! (In a movie no less lol didn't Bioware say a boss fight was "too videogamey"?.....Wow.....shows picture of Bioware writing staff, with the caption reading: "This is your brain on drugs....")
It's mind blowing that if Bioware really copied the Matrix sequals....that they only copied the part that ruined them lol...
They really must've wanted to destroy Mass Effect.....only logical explanation! (using Mordin's voice lol)
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