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[berelinde]

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Nanuzsh wrote...

Heck the Chantry uses blood magic to catch mages.

Only mages can use blood to perform  magic. The thing is created by the mages themselves.  The Chantry has no magic ability. They have the Chant of Light which is useless. 

Actually, if you've read Asunder, it's pretty clear that the phylacteries *are* blood magic and that the templars are capable of using lyrium to bestow mage-like powers. That was one of the things I liked about the novel. It said a lot of the things I've been thinking since DA:O was released. It's more a question of the ends justifying the means. 

[Sacred_Fantasy]

berelinde wrote...

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Nanuzsh wrote...

Heck the Chantry uses blood magic to catch mages.

Only mages can use blood to perform  magic. The thing is created by the mages themselves.  The Chantry has no magic ability. They have the Chant of Light which is useless. 

Actually, if you've read Asunder, it's pretty clear that the phylacteries *are* blood magic and that the templars are capable of using lyrium to bestow mage-like powers. That was one of the things I liked about the novel. It said a lot of the things I've been thinking since DA:O was released. It's more a question of the ends justifying the means. 

Novel, comics and animate narrate the events parallel to game's universe and thus should be be treated as such. According to Asunder, ( if I'm not wrong since I don't read material outside games )  Alistair is the king, which may or may not true depending on what game's universe you are playing. If you sacrfice Alistair in DAO, then Asunder is abviously not true. 

EVen if you decide Alistair to be a King or magically become a king offscreen DA universe, the templars are not the ones that demons are interested in the fade. Because in the fade templars are still passive dreamers like the chantry and other people. Therefore, the templars drawing lyrium to infuse magic on the  phylacteries
is not equal to bloodmages using blood to draw magic from the fade. Templars are passive dreamers. Mages are not. Mages remain conscius in the fade making them delicious target to be possessed and used as bridge to enter our world, that cannot be done with passive dreamers like templars. The only way a demon can possess a templar or any other people is through summoning or where the veil is torn/very thin and when the demon is already in our world.

[Vormaerin]

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

And she still succumb to demon's temptation in Feyneriel's dream or fade. She is not a strong willed character.
Hawke could easily persuad her, let alone the demon.

The Fade is problematic for a number of reasons.  Merrill is definitely a strong willed character or she wouldn't have resisted the demon, Marethari, her clan, and everyone else for so long.    Eventually, Hawke can persuade her partially.

But even that is changing her mind, not yielding her will.

[Sacred_Fantasy]

Vormaerin wrote...

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

And she still succumb to demon's temptation in Feyneriel's dream or fade. She is not a strong willed character.
Hawke could easily persuad her, let alone the demon.

The Fade is problematic for a number of reasons.  Merrill is definitely a strong willed character or she wouldn't have resisted the demon, Marethari, her clan, and everyone else for so long.

This is the same as arguing any mages in Kirkwall is definitely strong willed or they won't have resisted the demon prior to Hawke's arrival in Kirkwall. We know that's not true. Resistng demon temptation is not limited to one's  past. It's a continual process that happen regularly in mage's life as long as they live. Successful resisting in the past doesn't mean she will be successful in the future. Feyneriel's dream prove that failure to resist demon's temptation can happen anytime.

Vormaerin wrote...

Eventually, Hawke can persuade her partially.

And demon can do better than Hawke. Which is proven through Feyneriel's deam.

Vormaerin wrote...

But even that is changing her mind, not yielding her will.

Changing her mind doesn't change the fact that she did succumb to demon's temptation in Feyneriel's dream or fade. 

Modifié par Sacred_Fantasy, 08 juin 2012 - 03:39 .

[BioFan (Official)]

I'd like to kill either Fenris or Sebastian.

[SerTabris]

I'd like to fight either Fenris and Sebastian or Anders and Merrill, depending on whether your PC sides with mages or templars. Perhaps with one or more of them not fighting if they went far enough the other way in DA2 (I think some of the rivalry options go toward this, but I haven't done them).

Also, I think if you end up fighting someone who your Hawke romanced, Hawke should show up and fight you too. (Speech could be kept to a minimum and determined by personality type.)

[esper]

Leliana, Sebastian.

[devSin]

Sten and Morrigan.

I'd typically never support something like this, but I can see those two legitimately taking the role of antagonist and having it actually work.

I'd still prefer them to simply not do it at all (and I have no reason to believe they ever would).

Modifié par devSin, 09 juin 2012 - 08:15 .

[Clertar]

"Zevron"? "Sebastion"? C'mon people! xD

[ianvillan]

I would like the option to fight Sandal and get defeted in a few seconds with a cutscene of Sandal saying not enchantment.

[Cirram55]

Sebastian: god if I hated the guy. Since his departure from my Hawke in DAII ending was a little, uhm say, uncomfortable, it appears that Seby's going to receive some "butt-kicking for goodness" (sorry Minsc, I know he's unworthy).

Most of all, I'd like to find out that ser Pounce-a-Lot was an abomination (much like the desire demon imprisoned in Honnleath who enthralled the girl-whose-name-I-can't-remember) or maybe a demon who, surprise of surprises!, possessed Anders for the whole duration of DAII; after a successful exorcism (it seems that in every main DA game we have to go to the Fade at least once, so this could be a good opportunity) we shall have the REAL and witty Anders back - if he survives the events of DAII. This would explain why a cat could revive the entire party in Awakening during combat.

Anyway, on a more serious note, aside from Sebastian, the only one who makes sense to me, is Sten.
If Hawke didn't kill him already in DAII (hard to tell since I met lots of sten in Kirkwall, and the poor Qunari once revealed my Warden his name, but noone ever used it), I always thought he would be the next Arishok. I don't know how the Antaam actually works with the ranks and all that, but it could be possible. Of course, this only happens if Hawke killed the Arishok in Kirkwall.
I wouldn't, however, ship the idea of another Arishok fight that much, as I'd consider it repetitive. I mean we've already confronted one Arishok and that's enough, I think, move on.

Leliana: If I'm not mistaken, she's still alive in every game for a reason Bioware will explain, as well as Wynne (who David Gaider killed anyway, but oh well! I didn't read Asunder so I don't really know much about Wynne's death), though I don't think we will get a chance to confront her in battle due to the Seekers being the hand of the Divine, who's only interested in maintaing the status quo and restoring the Circles and whatever.

Morrigan: out of the question. You can't kill the embodiment of a franchise. Like it or lump it.
Even in WH, when stabbing her, you never see her body. And anyway: HOW COULD YOU?

Tallis: I hated her "comedic gold" humor, and the whole idea behind her DLC. Given the chance I wouldn't mind sending her back to wherever she's come from. BURN THE B... WITCH!

Modifié par Cirram55, 12 juin 2012 - 09:10 .

[Sinuphro]

i wanna kill leiliana, sebastian, cullen, in short i wanna wipe out the chantry and the stupid humans that believe in them. the chantry = hypocrites.

[Cyne]

I like this idea a lot. They could have them be friendly for a while, so you could talk to them & find out how they've changed, etc. Then have them attack you/block your way. "I'm afraid I can't let you do that" Ka-POW!

Modifié par Cyne, 16 juin 2012 - 07:56 .