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[batlin]

Ihatebadgames wrote...

I'd Like to see a reason for why logain went Psyco.First time I played it I was sort of expecting a demon to pop out when I cut his head off.Maybe in 3 we could go through his office and find a mission/paper work to maybe clear his name?After all canon is kinda loose in the game.

Uh, he's extremely xenophobic due to the war with Orlais and believes that getting aid from any outside force may as well destroy Ferelden same as the Blight would.

[Lord Gremlin]

Right now I'm going to hold on and buy it later cheap or skip entirely.
However... If Bioware announces that Morrigan and Old God baby are in, are a major part of main story and influenced by your decisions in DA1 I will buy the most expensive Collectors Edition and probably feel like an idiot.

[Ihatebadgames]

batlin wrote...

Ihatebadgames wrote...

I'd Like to see a reason for why logain went Psyco.First time I played it I was sort of expecting a demon to pop out when I cut his head off.Maybe in 3 we could go through his office and find a mission/paper work to maybe clear his name?After all canon is kinda loose in the game.

Uh, he's extremely xenophobic due to the war with Orlais and believes that getting aid from any outside force may as well destroy Ferelden same as the Blight would.

I'm trying to give him a break as he was a hero,loyal to his King and never craved power.Yet most of us know what he did,and we punished him for it.Just wish Anora would have caught his head.

[Laotar]

Minimum three years of development time. Also, shleets.

Modifié par Laotar, 10 juin 2012 - 03:12 .

[Persephone]

Ihatebadgames wrote...

batlin wrote...

Ihatebadgames wrote...

I'd Like to see a reason for why logain went Psyco.First time I played it I was sort of expecting a demon to pop out when I cut his head off.Maybe in 3 we could go through his office and find a mission/paper work to maybe clear his name?After all canon is kinda loose in the game.

Uh, he's extremely xenophobic due to the war with Orlais and believes that getting aid from any outside force may as well destroy Ferelden same as the Blight would.

I'm trying to give him a break as he was a hero,loyal to his King and never craved power.Yet most of us know what he did,and we punished him for it.Just wish Anora would have caught his head.

As someone who has actually watched a parent die.....this is utterly disgusting.<_<

[Ihatebadgames]

Sorry,but we're talking game hear,not real life. Anora was a *itch,shes there anyway,might as well be useful.I'd like to see more cut scenes in the games,as good as the Ostagar battle being a AA.DA 2 was sort B all around.

[TEWR]

brushyourteeth wrote...

*EDIT* - sorry, TEWR, I guess you got this.

Nah we got this.

Allan Schumacher wrote...

I haven't read the book, but I believe it explains why Loghain really really really hates the Orlesians.

Though you don't really need the book to understand that. Codexes, dialogue, and Loghain's banter with some companions really conveys that well enough.

Orlais' history is rife with so many reasons why they can't be trusted. They're not a nice country. Masks may conceal the face, but not the person.

Which reminds me....

Give me a masquerade ball in DAIII, where I can play as Hawke temporarily. In that instance, I can dance with Merrill to a waltz akin to the Waltz of the Damned.

Hawke will display a keen understanding of politics, the ball will be filled with political intrigue -- possibly hosted by the Grand Duke Gaspard --, and I will go there with the express purpose of rescuing Empress Celene from her fiendish captor!

But really, if the political aspect cannot be done just let me play as an intelligent Hawke at a masquerade ball where I can dance with Merrill to a waltz akin to the waltz I linked.

I'll be happy enough

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 10 juin 2012 - 03:54 .

[Tommyspa]

Persephone wrote...

Ihatebadgames wrote...

batlin wrote...

Ihatebadgames wrote...

I'd Like to see a reason for why logain went Psyco.First time I played it I was sort of expecting a demon to pop out when I cut his head off.Maybe in 3 we could go through his office and find a mission/paper work to maybe clear his name?After all canon is kinda loose in the game.

Uh, he's extremely xenophobic due to the war with Orlais and believes that getting aid from any outside force may as well destroy Ferelden same as the Blight would.

I'm trying to give him a break as he was a hero,loyal to his King and never craved power.Yet most of us know what he did,and we punished him for it.Just wish Anora would have caught his head.

As someone who has actually watched a parent die.....this is utterly disgusting.<_<

As if it wasn't bad enough Anora was forcibly splashed with her fathers blood.

[Raydiva]

No multi-player

[Ryzaki]

Eh it's a game. Let's not shove our noses in their air about what people do to pixels folks. Especially not a pixel folk who would just as easily kill the Warden if she had the opportunity and the Warden refused to dance to her tune.

And frankly I do wish the Warden could've convinced Alistair to execute Anora if he was hardened during the coronation. I have a feeling that snake is going to attempt to bite someone later on if she's not dealt with. As for Loghain I felt that beheading was too good for him but there were more important things to do so *shrug*. He nearly doomed the whole country to a fate far worse than Orlesians.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 10 juin 2012 - 06:47 .

[wsandista]

Ryzaki wrote...

Eh it's a game. Let's not shove our noses in their air about what people do to pixels folks.

And frankly I do wish the Warden could've convinced Alistair to execute Anora if he was hardened during the coronation. I have a feeling that snake is going to attempt to bite someone later on if she's not dealt with.

I agree. However if Alistair was not hardened, then the Warden should be able to do it.

[AstraDrakkar]

Again, M rated romance cutscenes. I'm not just stating this as a joke. I would like DA3 to be a game that would reflect it's M rated status. I'm not just talking about the blood and gore, but ALL of the content. I feel that DA2 wimped out on the romance content due to pressure from the media after DAO.

It's just not right that blood, gore and dismemberment are ok in our society, but heaven forbid a bit of sexytimes.

[Sabariel]

Player won't be stuck playing a human.

[Get Magna Carter]

Raydiva wrote...

No multi-player

ditto

[nightscrawl]

deuce985 wrote...

Diablo 3 level of customization without a compromise on the rest of the game.

You'll have to be a bit more specific on this. I've played through D3 two times now, on two different classes. Are you referring only to gear with different stat allocations, sockets, multiple types of gear, and so forth? I don't really see them doing this. The weapon runes from DAO, armor runes introduced into DAA, both of which carried over into DA2 are probably the highest customization we're likely going to get with a game of this type. I think the type of customization you want would be increased if they added more gear slots though.

For those who don't know, Diablo 3 has 11 gear slots available: head, chest, waist, legs, feet, shoulders, hands, wrists, neck, finger x2.

Every class has its primary attribute that they will want to focus on, but that also confers a secondary bonus to all classes, so it's not a total waste: STR (barbarian, +armor), INT (wizard/witch doctor, +ele resistance), DEX (demon hunter/monk, +dodge), and VIT (everyone, +health).

There are also other allocated bonuses that can be "10% Extra Gold from Monsters," or "Ignores Target's Defense," or any of several dozen prefix and suffix combinations, as many as 6 different kinds on each piece. One of the affix bonuses are blank sockets that let you fill in with a gem (or gems) of your choice, further adding to customization.

Unfortunately, any and all gear that drops from various mobs and bosses is all randomized, so it's really luck of the dice every time you kill something. Each piece of gear will have a point value conferred on it by Blizzard that matches the appropriate level of the item, and then stats and bonuses are randomly chosen, based on the point value, when the item is generated. If you have a barbarian and want a sword with STR/VIT, you'll just have to cross your fingers and hope you don't get one with INT/DEX on it instead. I've seen some really awful combinations, combinations that are so awful I don't bother to put it on the Auction House, I just vendor trash it instead.

While Diablo's gear system has some merits for customization (you can really specialize if you're just farming, killing a certain boss with specific abilities, have different gear setups for solo vs party, etc), the Diablo franchise as a whole is more gear based than a series like Dragon Age, which is more story based. Once you go to an area and kill the things in a DA game, you never have to go back again, because they're dead and they stay dead. That's not so with Diablo. You can reload and farm a map over and over again for whatever reason (achievements, items, gold, boredom).

While the people who play DA Nightmare mode can use things like elemental resistances, I don't know how much more gear freedom is needed -- other than removing class restrictions on gear -- to let us specialize or customize. DAA and DA2 had a great variety of runes for armor and weapon. Would you just be satisfied if they added more kinds of runes? Perhaps more runes with fancy procs and things like that?

How about anyone else on here? Since I explained the Diablo gear system, would anyone like to see that, or similar, in Dragon Age?

Modifié par nightscrawl, 10 juin 2012 - 02:32 .

[Persephone]

wsandista wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Eh it's a game. Let's not shove our noses in their air about what people do to pixels folks.

And frankly I do wish the Warden could've convinced Alistair to execute Anora if he was hardened during the coronation. I have a feeling that snake is going to attempt to bite someone later on if she's not dealt with.

I agree. However if Alistair was not hardened, then the Warden should be able to do it.

So the hero should be able to execute people whose only crime is that they do not bow down when they and their loved ones are threatened by the hero. Show me a queen who'll willingly be dethroned and watch her father die.

And people call Anora a "snake".... a Warden behaving like that is more of a conniving, backstabbing, sociopathic snake than Anora could ever hope to be. Anora at least keeps her promises if you do not betray her first OR stumble through politics like an incompetent child.

As for your suggestion, Ryz, keep it, esp. after showing your own bias a second later. This is the way I feel about such behavior, pixel folk or not. And why such bloodlust there, it's just a pixel gal, remember?

Modifié par Persephone, 10 juin 2012 - 04:24 .

[Ryzaki]

Persephone wrote...
So the hero should be able to execute people whose only crime is that they do not bow down when they and their loved ones are threatened by the hero. Show me a queen who'll willingly be dethroned and watch her father die.

And people call Anora a "snake".... a Warden behaving like that is more of a conniving, backstabbing, sociopathic snake than Anora could ever hope to be. Anora at least keeps her promises if you do not betray her first OR stumble through politics like an incompetent child.

If you actually think that's her only crime you must be joking. If her father nearly got her country destroyed? There's queens that would watch him die. Everyone's not a big happy family and some have enough sense to see that YES if someone in your family got droves of people killed that there are reprucussions for that. Someone who can't accept that isn't fit to be queen. (And no Alistair isn't an improvement in this manner. They both make crappy royalty prospects in my view. Alistair's just less likely to stab my Warden in the back).

Not even remotely. My Warden flat out tells her why her father has to die. She pretends to agree with it and then turns around and throws the Warden under the bus. Nevermind that the Warden can NOT THREATEN HER THRONE IN THE LEAST. Screw that. That's a snake.

And how is that stumbling through politics like an incompetent child? Not being a snake and a liar like Anora? I'd rather be incompetent then thanks. So yeah she's a snake and I laugh when she's covered her dad's blood. Deal with it.

Yup. OFF WITH HER HEAD IN MY GAMES! It's really too bad the Warden can't throw Loghain's body out for the crows. Oh well I HC that's what happened.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 10 juin 2012 - 04:33 .

[Persephone]

Ryzaki wrote...

If you actually think that's her only crime you must be joking. If her father nearly got her country destroyed? There's queens that would watch him die. Everyone's not big happy family.

Not even remotely. My Warden flat out tells her why her father has to die. She pretends to agree with it and then turns around and throws the Warden under the bus. Nevermind that the Warden can NOT THREATEN HER THRONE IN THE LEAST. Screw that. That's a snake.

And how is that stumbling through politics like an incompetent child? Not being a snake and a liar like Anora? I'd rather be incompetent then thanks. So yeah she's a snake and I laugh when she's covered her dad's blood. Deal with it.

As for your last comment I'm not the one juding ACTUAL PEOPLE NOT PIXELS over a video game. You're not mocking fictional people. Believe it or not there's a person behind the screen an actual person with feelings. And if you honestly want to get into personal nasty mode I can get into it. Let's not do that. I don't insult directly (until someone else does it first and then well I'm a blood hound and it gets REALLY ugly really fast which is why I'd rather it not begin in the damn first place) no matter how ridculous I think some of your posts get. I merely ask others do the same.

Edit: Yup. OFF WITH HER HEAD IN MY GAMES! [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wizard.png[/smilie] It's really too bad the Warden can't throw Loghain's body out for the crows. Oh well I HC that's what happened.

Not joking at all. Legally, she has committed no crime. End of story.

Yes, flat out telling a queen who obviously cares for her father that you intend to murder him... Don't blame her whatsoever for turning on you. And yes, that's being incompetent at politics.

And I am disgusted by you laughing at such a scenario. Deal with it. Frankly, I don't care what you do.

Feelings? FEELINGS? You bring that up after mocking/trampling on mine and expect me to buy that? No way. Never mind you insulting me in the same paragraph.

I'll repeat, why may I not bloody relate to a "pixel" person again? Your oh so betrayed Warden is nothing more than a pixel person to me either. Wait, you RELATE to your Warden? Huh. There it is. I relate to mine too. I also can relate to Anora, pixel person or not.

Now, yes, I am actually done with this discussion myself. We've talked about this in the past and our positions haven't changed. I'll thank you to permit me to relate to pixel characters, same as you relate to your Warden. Otherwise you would get no satisfaction/amusement by watching Anora going through the worst a daughter can go through.

As for the edit...cute bait. Now I have something to laugh about too. It all works out!

Modifié par Persephone, 10 juin 2012 - 04:47 .

[WardenKing]

Well I will buy the game no matter what, I think. However what I would like is that DA3 stays realistic in the form of a good story where the evil looking people are not always evil, like in Game of Thrones, and where we dont see characters carry these huge swords that would be impossible to carry for real and where the character`s dont leap 10 meters into the air and lands a long distance away , and other things like that. Just keep it realistic, same goes for the graphics/3D animation, make it look like Mass Effect perhaps where it feels you are watching a real movie.

Mix DAO with DA2 and add mass effect 2 ending + graphics. xD

Modifié par Captain Eldarion, 10 juin 2012 - 05:10 .

[Persephone]

Captain Eldarion wrote...

Well I will buy the game no matter what, I think. However what I would like is that DA3 stays realistic in the form of a good story where the evil looking people are not always evil, like in Game of Thrones, and where we dont see characters carry this huge swords that would be impossible to carry for real and where the character`s dont leap 10 meters into the air and lands a long distance away , and other things like that. Just keep it realistic, same goes for the graphics/3D animation, make it look like Mass Effect perhaps where it feels you are watching a real movie.

Mix DAO with DA2 and add mass effect 2 ending + graphics. xD

Playing GOT now. I really LIKE their dialogue wheel. (Clearly snagged from Bioware, heh!) There were no indicators as to what was the "right" or "wrong" answer, and they do lead to different outcomes, not just slightly different responses either!

Well, I loved the leaping and big swords in both DAO and DAII. But keep the INSANE leaping for Finishers. Oh, and bring those back!

And enchantment effects! I need my lightening blades! 

[wsandista]

Persephone wrote...

wsandista wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Eh it's a game. Let's not shove our noses in their air about what people do to pixels folks.

And frankly I do wish the Warden could've convinced Alistair to execute Anora if he was hardened during the coronation. I have a feeling that snake is going to attempt to bite someone later on if she's not dealt with.

I agree. However if Alistair was not hardened, then the Warden should be able to do it.

So the hero should be able to execute people whose only crime is that they do not bow down when they and their loved ones are threatened by the hero. Show me a queen who'll willingly be dethroned and watch her father die.

And people call Anora a "snake".... a Warden behaving like that is more of a conniving, backstabbing, sociopathic snake than Anora could ever hope to be. Anora at least keeps her promises if you do not betray her first OR stumble through politics like an incompetent child.

As for your suggestion, Ryz, keep it, esp. after showing your own bias a second later. This is the way I feel about such behavior, pixel folk or not. And why such bloodlust there, it's just a pixel gal, remember?

The PC should be able to be a monster. I had one who was and I would have liked to kill Anora with him.

[Persephone]

wsandista wrote...

Persephone wrote...

wsandista wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Eh it's a game. Let's not shove our noses in their air about what people do to pixels folks.

And frankly I do wish the Warden could've convinced Alistair to execute Anora if he was hardened during the coronation. I have a feeling that snake is going to attempt to bite someone later on if she's not dealt with.

I agree. However if Alistair was not hardened, then the Warden should be able to do it.

So the hero should be able to execute people whose only crime is that they do not bow down when they and their loved ones are threatened by the hero. Show me a queen who'll willingly be dethroned and watch her father die.

And people call Anora a "snake".... a Warden behaving like that is more of a conniving, backstabbing, sociopathic snake than Anora could ever hope to be. Anora at least keeps her promises if you do not betray her first OR stumble through politics like an incompetent child.

As for your suggestion, Ryz, keep it, esp. after showing your own bias a second later. This is the way I feel about such behavior, pixel folk or not. And why such bloodlust there, it's just a pixel gal, remember?

The PC should be able to be a monster. I had one who was and I would have liked to kill Anora with him.

The Warden already is pretty capable of being a monster. And by that I don't just mean being ruthless but chaotically EVIL. They shrug off whatever trauma they went through pre-Joining, they eliminate entire villages, can destroy Ferelden's most important relic, allow souls to be forged into golems....etc. Never mind all the things you can do to your companions.

[Ryzaki]

Persephone wrote...
Not joking at all. Legally, she has committed no crime. End of story.

Yes, flat out telling a queen who obviously cares for her father that you intend to murder him... Don't blame her whatsoever for turning on you. And yes, that's being incompetent at politics.

Oh well. Her dad's head is still going to roll and she's still gonna be next.

And I am disgusted by you laughing at such a scenario. Deal with it. Frankly, I don't care what you do.

Feelings? FEELINGS? You bring that up after mocking/trampling on mine and expect me to buy that? No way. Never mind you insulting me in the same paragraph.

Where did I mock your feelings? Please point it out because if so it wasn't intentional. As for insulting yeah that I meant to do. Whenever someone calls someone psychotic or disgusting over something they did with pixels I have to laugh. That's what I was mocking.

I'll repeat, why may I not bloody relate to a "pixel" person again? Your oh so betrayed Warden is nothing more than a pixel person to me either. Wait, you RELATE to your Warden? Huh. There it is. I relate to mine too. I also can relate to Anora, pixel person or not.

Now, yes, I am actually done with this discussion myself. We've talked about this in the past and our positions haven't changed. I'll thank you to permit me to relate to pixel characters, same as you relate to your Warden. Otherwise you would get no satisfaction/amusement by watching Anora going through the worst a daughter can go through.

Where did I say you couldn't relate to her? Seriously? You have to make up things at this point? I simply said you mind not insulting the PLAYER for an action in a video game.

Though yes I should relate to the Warden more. It's extra gratifiying to watch her father's head go a flying and watch her scheming methods sign her own death warrant. And my Warden'll gladly give it to her. And throw both her and sweet daddies corpses out for the crows. Maybe even steal something from Red Wedding when executing her.

As for the edit...cute bait. Now I have something to laugh about too. It all works out!

Yup and I get to laugh at Anora while she does that pathetic "NOOOO" act at Lohain's corpse. Cry harder Anora maybe daddy'll come back as a Zombie.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 10 juin 2012 - 05:39 .

[Ryzaki]

wsandista wrote...
The PC should be able to be a monster. I had one who was and I would have liked to kill Anora with him.

Except killing Anora isn't a monstrous act. Anymore than her having Alistair executed. It's the prudent thing to do with someone who's a threat to your power. Which is why if Alistair lived I'm wondering why the warden can't suggest she be disposed of ASAP. Locking her up in a tower won't work for long.

[Persephone]

If you're done with your tasteless baiting, let's stay on topic now. I said I was done discussing this with you and I meant it. Neither your baiting nor your indignation at my disgust at while change that. It only increases said disgust.<_<

On topic:

Another character whose return would make DAIII a Day One Buy in my case: 

Cassandra. As a companion and a LI. I love that gal.