Persephone wrote...
The Bhelen/Harrowmont choice wasn't ambigous to me. At all.
DAO hardly portrays Tranquils as "horrors". They are shown to be pretty content with their lot and almost nobody, even mages, questions the practice. Jowan? He brought destruction on himself by falling for an initiate (Poor Thorn Birds cover) and by lying to her as well as the PC. Irving enforces order how? Uldred sure had him in his clutches. The Templars, though regretfully, kept the demons and abominations locked away effectively. Does the PC swoop in to safe the day? Yes. But it's the Knight Commander in charge and keeping order, not Irving. (Whom I consider to be rather incompetent, sorry)
Yes. DAII shows that despair. There is no more sugarcoating of the actual abuses and horrible choices on both sides.
Wait, threats of heresy against a questionable exploitation (That's what Genetivi's research leads to, if you let it), sassing a mage and ONE Revered Mother not trusting a mage shows that the Chantry isn't all goody goody? Esp. when said Mage becomes a rabid Pride Abomination later? Huh.... And THREATS of an Exalted March after a priest was slain....yeah, hot air. The Exalted March doesn't happen.
Everything you're saying about the Circle is an interpretation, which is exactly what I'm getting at: there's room to form your own view of the situation. For example, regarding the Jowan situation, look at Lily's fate: she's sent to Aonar, the most horrible prison in the world where demonic possession is the norm for the mere crime of trusting the wrong person. Perhaps there's something wrong with this system? Also, regarding the abomination-containment, it really doesn't look like Uldred was trying to break out. His main effort was on creating an army of abominations. Allowing him to build his force like that would have made it much harder for the Templars when he actually did try to break out. And how can the Templars even be credited with containing the Abominations. None of them got close enough to try to burn down that wooden door (probably quite easy for a rage demon) because Wynne's barrier was stopping them. Wynne, a mage, was single-handedly blocking the abominations from leaving, not the Templars. When an alternate interpretation can be drawn, the situation isn't black and white - except that you choose to interpret it as such.
Regarding the Exalted March not happening, that's not known within the scope of DAO. What we see of it is from the epilogue slides, which were given a lot more credibility before the release of more recent content. If you go strictly off of DAO, it does appear that an Exalted March is imminent. With regards to Uldred, it goes beyond simply not trusting a mage: for all we know, his plan would have worked just as well even if he was surrounded by a bunch of Templars ready to strike him down if he as much as said "maleficar" but the Revered Mother gives him no chance to speak, so we can't learn what his plan was. Him becoming an abomination later is irrelevant as it is completely unknown to the player or Revered Mother at the time. The point is, it shows the Chantry to be dogmatic, refusing to accept alternate views. Ergo, they're not all goody-goody.
Furthermore, all you're doing is shooting my evidence to the contrary: you've done nothing to support your claim that there is any sort of active endorsement of the Chantry's views.
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. That guy was awesome. Or maybe just qunari in general Oo.
I always look at the ending of a book before I buy it, unless it's by an author I trust. Yep. I don't have to know the exact ending, but I'm not putting out 60 - 70 or probably $80 by the time DA3 comes out for a game that doesn't have at least one ending that is a great one. 
