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[brushyourteeth]

LOL - well, as much as I loathe Loghain, I'd still be interested in seeing what became of letting him live.

I admit it.

[Sith Grey Warden]

I would buy DA3 if Bioware announced a renewed focus on story above all else. That means not having plot holes or inconsistencies to throw in extra boss battles, to let storylines die if based on a player's choice they should die (Grace showing up in Act III if you helped her escape made no sense) and generally focusing on one coherent plot with most of the game tying to that one central element instead of huge amounts of side-questing. As a part of this, loose plot ends like the Warden and Hawke disappearing and Morrigan are tied up.

[Persephone]

brushyourteeth wrote...

It just occurred to me that not only could Loghain techinically still be living, but he could, in fact, be involved in some kind of illicit relationship with the Warden that betrayed Alistair!

The idea of him being allowed to walk Thedas is just...

sorry, Begemotka!

Sparing Loghain is not betraying Alistair. No lover or friend of mine will get me to kill just so they won't leave me.

Illicit affair? My Canon Warden fell in love with the man (See her tale in my sig), nothing illicit there.

How is Thedas better off without one of its greatest, most fascinating heroes?

Never mind that I support his decision at Ostagar, do not see him as a villain and my Warden having no animosity towards him. She leapt at the chance to recruit him and hasn't regretted it.

As for Cailan, his death was his own doing. I despise that incompetent brat, sorry.

And if he does kill the Archdemon.... one line, a single line still has me teary eyed.... "Please, I have done....so much wrong. Allow me to do one last thing right." 

Ah well, before the "Loghain hate versus Loghain love" debate reopens completely....*Shuts up*

Modifié par Persephone, 07 juin 2012 - 08:26 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

I would buy it if they announced two things: a) Morrigan as a central figure and Orzammar as one of the settings the story takes place in.

[Ihatebadgames]

I always enjoy killing the oathbreaker,only things that would make it better is if you could tell him he should have stayed on the farm,and found out why him and his toady rebelled.
They(BW)need to get back to story,nice deep story with many twisted plots all woven together in a weave of awesomeness.

[Persephone]

Ihatebadgames wrote...

I always enjoy killing the oathbreaker,only things that would make it better is if you could tell him he should have stayed on the farm,and found out why him and his toady rebelled.
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Wow....that's..... Had he done that, Ferelden wouldn't exist (It would be an Orlesian vassal) and there would be no DAO.

Found out why he and his toady (Are you calling Maric a toady? WHAT?) rebelled? He knew why. He lived it. And what oath did he break?

Modifié par Persephone, 07 juin 2012 - 08:42 .

[brushyourteeth]

Persephone wrote... 

Ah well, before the "Loghain hate versus Loghain love" debate reopens completely....*Shuts up*

We should probably all do that, just to help keep things on-topic for those that aren't interested.

[milena87]

Uhm. One thing that would make me buy it no matter what?

The death of all meaningless fetch quests / side quests would certainly help. I'd love for them to focus on the main story and the different outcomes of our choices (key-word: different. Alpha Protocol / The Witcher different).

[Cutlasskiwi]

 I plan on getting DA3 unless they announce something I dislike. 

But I might be persuaded to buy two copies if BioWare suddenly decided that there will be no focus on the Grey Wardens any more. 

Modifié par Cutlasskiwi, 07 juin 2012 - 08:58 .

[Ihatebadgames]

That's right he was an oathbreaker you do not command a Kings army with out an Oath to the King.Arl Howe was a toady.Who(or what)caused them to go against their rightful King?Neither one was a demon.No blood magic was used so what were they promised?Logaine was never one to persue power,so what was the(hate to say this word)catalyst?
The only person or thing DA:O showed Logaine being loyal to was himself.He was not loyal to his friend,King Maric he killed his son.He was not loyal to his King,said hey got your back and then left him and the rest of the army to die.Killing any survivors,laying the blame on others.He was not loyal to his country selling elves into slavery.Tower of mages trouble with the blood mages was his doing.Bet If we dug deep enough we could lay the dwarf troubles at his feet also.He would evenhave killed his daughter for political points.He needed killing.

[Ihatebadgames]

So the thread moves on.Cool.Still need a in game delete button.

[AndrahilAdrian]

Just announcing the game would be enough for me. The first 2 games were so great, it would take a lot of bad press for me not to give the 3rd one a try.

[batlin]

Ihatebadgames wrote...

That's right he was an oathbreaker you do not command a Kings army with out an Oath to the King.Arl Howe was a toady.Who(or what)caused them to go against their rightful King?Neither one was a demon.No blood magic was used so what were they promised?Logaine was never one to persue power,so what was the(hate to say this word)catalyst?
The only person or thing DA:O showed Logaine being loyal to was himself.He was not loyal to his friend,King Maric he killed his son.He was not loyal to his King,said hey got your back and then left him and the rest of the army to die.Killing any survivors,laying the blame on others.He was not loyal to his country selling elves into slavery.Tower of mages trouble with the blood mages was his doing.Bet If we dug deep enough we could lay the dwarf troubles at his feet also.He would evenhave killed his daughter for political points.He needed killing.

Howe joined up with Loghain because Howe wanted more power and influence, and Loghain was willing to give it to him if he allied with him.

Loghain did what he did because he was a paranoid xenophobe who firmly believed that the humans of Ferelden had to stand on their own without the help of outsiders or else his last war with the Orlesians would have been for nothing.

Modifié par batlin, 07 juin 2012 - 09:20 .

[Dakota Strider]

brushyourteeth wrote...

Persephone wrote... 

Ah well, before the "Loghain hate versus Loghain love" debate reopens completely....*Shuts up*

We should probably all do that, just to help keep things on-topic for those that aren't interested.

Yes, Loghain lovers, go back to your hole....err thread.   The only way Loghain can live in most peoples' versions, would be to look something like Hawke's mom, when she had her head sewn onto another body. 

[nightcobra]

Dakota Strider wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

Persephone wrote... 

Ah well, before the "Loghain hate versus Loghain love" debate reopens completely....*Shuts up*

We should probably all do that, just to help keep things on-topic for those that aren't interested.

Yes, Loghain lovers, go back to your hole....err thread.   The only way Loghain can live in most peoples' versions, would be to look something like Hawke's mom, when she had her head sewn onto another body. 

the mages in origins state that the fade is also the realm of the dead and we've seen quite a few spirits/ghost related quests, returning to denerim to see loghain's ghost would be a hoot:whistle:

[Dave of Canada]

Dakota Strider wrote...

The only way Loghain can live in most peoples' versions, would be to look something like Hawke's mom, when she had her head sewn onto another body. 

I'll just imagine the events which I find more important should be canonised. 

[TJX2045]

 I don't know that there is anything that could make me flip and run to preorder DA3 at the moment after ME3, but one of those many things that would have, had I not been destroyed by the recent controversy, would be these:

• The amount of Talents/Spells will be greater than/equal to Dragon Age:Origins.
• The Skill System from DA:O will be revamped, dropping wasteful skills like tactics so that you get new slots with each level up like in DA2.
• Environments will be unique like in Dragon Age Origins.  Even if they are based off of a similar map, they will be themed enough so that you cannot tell that they are (I am sure that there were a few maps that shared a similar layout but were so different in the new locations that unless you looked REALLY hard you couldn't tell and it felt like a new place).
• All of your decisions will matter like in DA:O where each decision is shown in a summary or, since we're deeper in this current generation, cutscenes explaining your overall choices and how it affects the world.  DA:O outlined every choice you made with each group of people: the dwarves, the dalish, the city elves, the nobles, the mages.
• Characters who you romance that might affect the story in a huge way, like with a ceratin LI in DA2, will change so that they do not do anything drastic..well, I can't explain this any further without major spoilers but people who beat DA2 will know what I'm talking about.

However...the biggest thing that would give me hope and possibly make me run out and preorder DA3 when I got the chance would be if we got to place as different races again.  They can have voiced PCs with different races and genders.  MMOs do it.  Why can't a SPRPG?  We've got the space and it can be optional to install for people who don't want to play the other races.  In a generation where we have 120+ GBs in gaming systems, they can make a voiced PC with 3 different races.

[Ihatebadgames]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Dakota Strider wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

Persephone wrote... 

Ah well, before the "Loghain hate versus Loghain love" debate reopens completely....*Shuts up*

We should probably all do that, just to help keep things on-topic for those that aren't interested.

Yes, Loghain lovers, go back to your hole....err thread.   The only way Loghain can live in most peoples' versions, would be to look something like Hawke's mom, when she had her head sewn onto another body. 

the mages in origins state that the fade is also the realm of the dead and we've seen quite a few spirits/ghost related quests, returning to denerim to see loghain's ghost would be a hoot:whistle:

Could I kill him again!
Still holding out for that in game save file delete button.

[King Cousland]

brushyourteeth wrote...

VaticanVice wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...


The first bolded one is pretty likely and the last one is confirmed. So congratulations - it looks like you're buying DAIII.

They'd be kind of stupid not to bring Flemeth back, but y'know.  Anything is possible, I guess.  I'm not really placing bets yet.  As for the multiple-nations thing, I missed that confirmation!  Thanks for letting me know!

Yeah, I really should have included this link for you earlier for confirmation - sorry (and I hope it brings you joy)!

Looks like we'll be hitting parts of Ferelden, Orlais, the Free Marches, Nevarra, and the southern parts of Antiva and the Tevinter Imperium. Not sure yet about Rivain, but still plenty to keep us busy!

I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but when they said that, I'm not sure they meant we'd actually be able to traverse multiple nations in one game. I took to either mean: That's the area of land they'd still like us to explore. OR: We want to make DAIII's seem this size i.e, we want you to make the area's you can explore much larger than in DA:O or DAII. 

[brushyourteeth]

Ihatebadgames wrote...
Still holding out for that in game save file delete button.

Me too please!

[Beck 85]

All I need is a release date. Sure there are some things I would like to see, but realistically I'm going to preorder no matter what.

[devSin]

I'm already going to be pre-ordering the collector's edition (or whatever it is that Mark comes up with this time).

If I weren't, as long as it's a single-player game, hearing David say the magic words would make me buy it no matter what: "There will be pigeons."

Since I'm already going to be buying it, I'll just say that there damn well better be, sir. :-)

[TJX2045]

Beck 85 wrote...

All I need is a release date. Sure there are some things I would like to see, but realistically I'm going to preorder no matter what.

I wish I could say that.  The only way I will actually preorder like I did with DA2 is if the gameplay I see and the new features/concepts/systems I see blow me away.

I've got more hope after hearing each companion will still have their signature look but you will be able to customize them again AND we will have a more open world Dragon Age similar to DA:O.  I can't take another Kirkwall-sized Dragon Age environment.  I'm crossing my fingers.

Modifié par TJX2045, 07 juin 2012 - 10:07 .

[Ihatebadgames]

So for the moment im holding out for the delete button.But keep hearing about a multiplayer which would not be a preorder,or even a buy from me.More races is always good along with choices mattering again.Ramp up the inventory to ME1 leavels but give us something to do with the money if we start being rich,you know schools,houses,hospitals,statues of the Divine,Cassandra,the dogs!Think out of the box.Hey how about no more bosses!

Modifié par Ihatebadgames, 07 juin 2012 - 10:13 .