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[Father_Jerusalem]

lillitheris wrote...

Working thread titles:

Why Don’t People Bother To Understand the Position Of the Opposing Side?
Why Are Pro-Ender Threads Always Reductive To the Absurd?

As opposed to Anti-Ender threads that are intelligent and well thought out and not just flamebaiting, like this thread here?

http://social.biowar.../index/12462513

Yeah. Generalize more, please.

[Lord Phoebus]

I think they did a great job on the gameplay, it's really smooth now and I'm didn't have any passing through the terrain bugs I had in ME and ME 2.

Unfortunately, they didn't improve the enemies to match the playerside improvements and it was a bit too easy on the highest difficulty levels. Imo, the quality of the dialogue was stripped down from the previous games, e.g. the discussion of the genophage was very shallow and superficial compared to ME2 (the CGI Maw-Reaper battle was some nice eye candy though). Then there's the abomination of a journal they had, the lack of companions (and class variation among them), the required online presence (I, like many others, have data limits on my internet service, having SP games require internet connections is an unnecessary use of data) a base price that's about $10 higher than most of its competitors. Don't get me wrong it's still an okay game, but it has its flaws.

[mauro2222]

Atakuma wrote...

I am doing no such thing. any generalizations made exist soley in your imagination. I am only reffering to those of whom it applies.

Atakuma wrote...

They aren't mature enough to handle disappointment without lashing out like spoiled children.

[mauro2222]

Volus Warlord wrote...

I wanted to love it, but couldn't justify loving it. I expected much, and the game didn't live up to what it was intended to be.

You *breaths*... speak the truth *breaths*... earth clan *breaths*

Modifié par mauro2222, 07 juin 2012 - 07:08 .

[Ianamus]

Because the entire reason I liked the series was because of the strong story and strong characters, and in the final ten minutes the story suddenly made no sense, the characters I loved were randomly thrown into nowhere with no explanation, and I was left deciding which of the three horrible endings would inflict the least amount of pain on the galaxy I had lost nearly all emotional attachment to. 

Most endings leave me satisfied with the time I've spent playing the game, but Mass Effects just left me wishing I'd never started playing the series in the first place.

Modifié par EJ107, 07 juin 2012 - 07:10 .

[NOD-INFORMER37]

@EJ107 I feel the same way

[Psycho Mantis I]

I don't hate ME3 but i am very disappointed by it. It feels rushed, to much auto dialogue, the "big" choices you had to make throughout the series didn't matter you only get war assets. I didn't like how some of the characters were killed off by twitter or email, the last thing thing on the list is the ending. I never would have thought i would be playing mp more than the single player.... If im going to play sp its going to be either ME1 or 2.

[CrystalCircuit]

Priority: Earth, quest journal, fact that MP uses SP maps and enemies (or maybe the other way round).

I love the game though.

Modifié par CrystalCircuit, 07 juin 2012 - 07:19 .

[Seboist]

Because it's a mediocre popamole shooter with meaningless choices and an Ed Wood level pulp schlock story.

[Icemix]

I think there is a misunderstanding that people who hate the ending, hate the entire game. It actually seems that the majority loves the game (not including the ending ofc).

[Icemix]

Lol if ME 3 is a mediocore game, what is a superb game?

[AlanC9]

EJ107 wrote...

Because the entire reason I liked the series was because of the strong story and strong characters, and in the final ten minutes the story suddenly made no sense, the characters I loved were randomly thrown into nowhere with no explanation, and I was left deciding which of the three horrible endings would inflict the least amount of pain on the galaxy I had lost nearly all emotional attachment to. 

I get most of this, but how come you'd lost emotional attachment to the galaxy? And if you had, then why did you care how much pain you'd inflicted upon it?

[Ianamus]

AlanC9 wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

Because the entire reason I liked the series was because of the strong story and strong characters, and in the final ten minutes the story suddenly made no sense, the characters I loved were randomly thrown into nowhere with no explanation, and I was left deciding which of the three horrible endings would inflict the least amount of pain on the galaxy I had lost nearly all emotional attachment to. 

I get most of this, but how come you'd lost emotional attachment to the galaxy? And if you had, then why did you care how much pain you'd inflicted upon it?

Like I said: The reason I had an emotional attatchment to the Mass Effect universe in the first place was the characters and the story. In the ending first the story makes no sense, and then the characters are randomly stranded in nowhere, leaving me little reason to care what happens to the galaxy any more. But I still really liked the Geth and Quarians as races, and the Turians- and there was that family Garrus cared about, minor characters I liked... 

I agree it makes little sense. Bioware completely ruined everything that made me love the game's universe- but the thought of the aftermath of all the endings still makes me cringe (particuarly synthesis). I went with destory in the end, but I still feel bad for killing the Geth. There was just no better choice.

Modifié par EJ107, 07 juin 2012 - 07:34 .

[KillaCam7i3]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Because they dislike it, presumably. Same reason anybody hates anything.

KillaCam7i3 wrote...

And thanks... to everyone. This place seems to have a lot less trolling/pointless posts than SpamFAQs.

Give this place time, you'll see plenty of those soon enough.

Yes, I see what you mean. I guess that's what I get for making such a statement after only visiting the site (maybe) three times. Some people posted legit critiques, but others post stuff like:

"this, that, and that was terrible" without any explanation.

And then, there's always the "because we can" comment from someone who thinks they're funny. On top of that, somoene actually called it 'mediocre'. Really? I know everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but that's just ridiculous.

I wish I could post in the 'Spoilers Allowed' section. I think I have a good question, and there doesn't seem to be anything like it already; at least not on the front page.

Modifié par KillaCam7i3, 07 juin 2012 - 07:34 .

[AlanC9]

Icemix wrote...

I think there is a misunderstanding that people who hate the ending, hate the entire game. It actually seems that the majority loves the game (not including the ending ofc).

We do have a faction which honestly thinks that the whole game is mediocre. You can get there in a few ways. ME3 is relatively linear, doesn't have many actual sidequests (the Citadel series are more properly classed as exploration rewards rather than quests), and does have fewer dialogue choices than earlier games. ME1 fans can add not having planetary exploration and loot.

And if these design approaches bother you, then you shouldn't like ME3 much.

[AlanC9]

EJ107 wrote...
Like I said: The reason I had an emotional attatchment to the Mass Effect universe in the first place was the characters and the story. In the ending first the story makes no sense, and then the characters are randomly stranded in nowhere, leaving me little reason to care what happens to the galaxy any more. But I still really liked the Geth and Quarians as races, and the Turians- and there was that family Garrus cared about, minor characters I liked...

What confused me was the sequence. At the moment you're choosing you don't yet know what's going to happen to the NPCs, though I guess the "no sense" aspect is in play for you. Unless you'd already watched the ending on YouTube. Or are you talking about subsequent playthroughs?

I agree it makes little sense. Bioware completely ruined everything that made me love the game's universe- but the thought of the aftermath of all the endings still makes me cringe (particuarly synthesis). I went with destory in the end, but I still feel bad for killing the Geth. There was just no better choice.

Personally, I like the idea of having a hard choice at the end, though if all the choices had been a little better for the galaxy I suppose I wouldn't have minded terribly much. I generally pick Control, myself.

Modifié par AlanC9, 07 juin 2012 - 07:41 .

[Seboist]

Icemix wrote...

Lol if ME 3 is a mediocore game, what is a superb game?

A game that succeeds in fulfilling what it set out to do gameplay and narrative-wise unlike this POS.

[Xenirax]

Really, this stuff is still going on?, I mean I was on here less than 48 hours after launch of Me3, Complaining about the Endings, and how horrible a Deus Ex Machina is ... For anyone that donesn't realise how horrible that is from a storywriting stand-point in general, that is basically the cop-out to not have to write the massive amount of story that needs to be written to tie off all the loose-ends of a story.. It's what a writer does when they "give up" or are done with a series.

If you don't see the ending of MassEffect 3 as being a Deus Ex Machina, there is more wrong with you than there is with the game. If you've ever read the harry potter Books, the Deathly Hallows Books are a Deus Ex Machina, which is why many fans completely stop reading the books entriely after they have read the final books, it's a coffin nail for the franchise. as much as I would like to belive that the devlopers had intent on continuing the Masseffect Franchise with how the 3rd installment of the story has run it's course I don't see how that might be possible.

I'm rambling at this point, no need to preech what has been said countless times, talking to people that are pro RGB Ending (Red Blue Green Ending) is like beating a dead horse, I can do it but the horse will feel nothing.

I have read many of the posts Pro ending, and many of the Apposed. The pro ending posts close their eyes to the real problems with the game such as the massive amount of discrepancies from the first and second game to the third, first and foremost calling thermal clips ammo amoung other things which i have a nice long article on if you would search my topics.

The Entire story upto the return to earth was written and re-written untill approved, but the final mission was witten and put into devlopment without peer review of the entire team, so that go's to show everyone why 97% of the game was great and 3% of the game destroyed the replay value of all 3 games in the series for quite a few people.

I myself have been in the game for the long hall I have over 600 hours played in Mass Effect, just over 900 hours play in Mass Effect 2, and exactally 24 hours 44 minutes played on MassEffect 3 Single player, maybe 5-6 hours on multiplayer for my readyness before i started the final mission, Haven't touched the game since then.

Feel free to reply to me via this thread or via PM.

Summary: The Writer used a method of writing that is frowned upon, the loose ends were never tied off in the end as promised, The replay value of singleplayer is non existant for Core gammers that have been playing for years.

I rate ME3 : 3/10

[AlanC9]

BrotherWarth wrote...
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Auto-dialogue.
Terrible mission system(listening to everyone's business and then turning up later with an item for them).
Terrible Journal/mission managemant system.
Previous choices having no meaningful impact.
Former squadmates, especially love interests who are no longer squadmates, getting the shaft.
The numerous lies told to us about the ending and game content in general.
The nonsensical ending.

No game can have that many flaws and be anything but mediocre(or worse).

You do realize that you don't need to get quests by eavesdropping, right? Or need to "manage" those quests --- either you've found  the stuff or you haven't, and with maybe three exceptions getting the quest by dialog doesn't tell you to go anywhere.

And one of the things on your list is a problem with the marketing, not the game.

[i IIVIIorpheus]

Gotta love pro enders....

Very "Do as I say, not as I do" smug elitists...