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[AlanC9]

Xenirax wrote...
If you don't see the ending of MassEffect 3 as being a Deus Ex Machina, there is more wrong with you than there is with the game. If you've ever read the harry potter Books, the Deathly Hallows Books are a Deus Ex Machina, which is why many fans completely stop reading the books entriely after they have read the final books, it's a coffin nail for the franchise. as much as I would like to belive that the devlopers had intent on continuing the Masseffect Franchise with how the 3rd installment of the story has run it's course I don't see how that might be possible.

Since when has that been the fan consensus?

Edit: I mean about Harry Potter.

[covertdrizzt]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

Working thread titles:

Why Don’t People Bother To Understand the Position Of the Opposing Side?
Why Are Pro-Ender Threads Always Reductive To the Absurd?

As opposed to Anti-Ender threads that are intelligent and well thought out and not just flamebaiting, like this thread here?

http://social.biowar.../index/12462513

Yeah. Generalize more, please.

LOL! you just generalized every anti-ender with a 3 page thread as an example.   FAIL!

Modifié par covertdrizzt, 07 juin 2012 - 07:55 .

[vurtual3]

People 'hate' it because it felt like it was building up to a massive heroic ending but when it got there it didn't feel like that . So they were left with the loss of the series finishing but no great uplift from beating the reapers. They won without feeling like they did. I felt a bit like this first playthrough.
I'd love to know what the most rabid detractors (who constantly criticize the game while still being completely obsessed by it) think are some great games if ME3 is poor or average though,it's easily the best game I've played this gen (I'm home console only). I just hope the frankly embarrasing response of some to the game doesn't overide the deserved excellent reviews and I'm guessing sales and make it less likely for those of us who do want more(much more) single player content asap to get it.

[AlanC9]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

i IIVIIorpheus wrote...

Gotta love pro enders....

Very "Do as I say, not as I do" smug elitists...

Who is this aimed at? If you read the OP, he/she isn't pro-ending.

I thought it was me, but that might be just my massive ego talking.

[Xenirax]

AlanC9 wrote...

Xenirax wrote...
If you don't see the ending of MassEffect 3 as being a Deus Ex Machina, there is more wrong with you than there is with the game. If you've ever read the harry potter Books, the Deathly Hallows Books are a Deus Ex Machina, which is why many fans completely stop reading the books entriely after they have read the final books, it's a coffin nail for the franchise. as much as I would like to belive that the devlopers had intent on continuing the Masseffect Franchise with how the 3rd installment of the story has run it's course I don't see how that might be possible.

Since when has that been the fan consensus?

Edit: I mean about Harry Potter.

lol, nice reply, anyways perhaps when it became sited in a wiki link like this one: http://en.wikipedia....Deus_ex_machina

[Ianamus]

AlanC9 wrote...

EJ107 wrote...
Like I said: The reason I had an emotional attatchment to the Mass Effect universe in the first place was the characters and the story. In the ending first the story makes no sense, and then the characters are randomly stranded in nowhere, leaving me little reason to care what happens to the galaxy any more. But I still really liked the Geth and Quarians as races, and the Turians- and there was that family Garrus cared about, minor characters I liked...

What confused me was the sequence. At the moment you're choosing you don't yet know what's going to happen to the NPCs, though I guess the "no sense" aspect is in play for you. Unless you'd already watched the ending on YouTube. Or are you talking about subsequent playthroughs?

I agree it makes little sense. Bioware completely ruined everything that made me love the game's universe- but the thought of the aftermath of all the endings still makes me cringe (particuarly synthesis). I went with destory in the end, but I still feel bad for killing the Geth. There was just no better choice.

Personally, I like the idea of having a hard choice at the end, though if all the choices had been a little better for the galaxy I suppose I wouldn't have minded terribly much. I generally pick Control, myself.

I was just trying to be dramatic and worded it poorly, ok?  Although ironically I actually did  know that they would be stranded before I made the choice on my first playthrough- I accidently read a post raging about how bad the endings were when they were leaked just before release. 

I don't mind difficult choices, but as soon as I realised that my "happily ever after with my LI" ending or anything even remotely resembling that was impossible I sort of stopped caring. I still enjoyed actually playing the game, but even knowing what was going to happen didn't stop the ending leaving an incredibly sour taste in my mouth. It actually made the game a lot less enjoyable as a whole- even when I was having fun playing through I was always dreading what I knew was going to happen at the end. 

Modifié par EJ107, 07 juin 2012 - 07:55 .

[AlanC9]

You're referencing a Christopher Hitchens review to back up that point, Xenirax? Jeez.... I loved Hitch, but he never was part of the consensus on anything.

Modifié par AlanC9, 07 juin 2012 - 07:53 .

[Grimwick]

I like the game but it's dreadful when compared to the previous two games.

Autodialogue, linearity, lack of choices mattering, lack of content, ending which is just dreadful, poor character writing in places also negates the good writing.

It's just a lot worse.

[AlanC9]

EJ107 wrote...
I was just trying to be dramtic and worded it poorly, ok?  Although ironically I actually did  know that they would be stranded before I made the choice on my first playthrough- I accidently read a post raging about how bad the endings were when they were leaked just before release. 

I don't mind difficult choices, but as soon as I realised that my "happily ever after with my LI" or anything even remotely resembling that was impossible I sort of stopped caring. I still enjoyed actually playing the game, but even knowing what was going to happen didn't stop the ending leaving an incredibly sour taste in my mouth. It actually made the game a lot less enjoyable as a whole- even when I was having fun playing through I was always dreading what I knew was going to happen at the end. 

OK, now I've got it.

You might actually be OK with the EC, if a couple of Patrick Weekes tweets are still valid.

[Xenirax]

AlanC9 wrote...

You're referencing a Christopher Hitchens review to back up that point, Xenirax? Jeez.... I loved Hitch, but he never was part of the consensus on anything.

Don't get me wrong I love the books 1-6, it's the last 2 books that are terrible.
anyways, should try to keep on topic, you basically just ADHD'd Harry potter like "hey i was outside walking yester day an. OH LOOK A POODLE" lol

[i IIVIIorpheus]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

i IIVIIorpheus wrote...

Gotta love pro enders....

Very "Do as I say, not as I do" smug elitists...

Who is this aimed at? If you read the OP, he/she isn't pro-ending.

Aimed that the pro enders in this thread(we know who they are, they are in every thread), criticizing every legitimate complain as "immature" and "entitled" all the while generalizing the entire group of people who has issue with the series they care about.

I am a not nor have been a part of the retake movement(although I am pro retake) but my issue with the ridiculous, make no sense ending has automatically moved me into the "entitled retaker" category.  It's funny how just a couple of threads down proenders rip someone for creating a ridiculous thread about how ME3 was terrible, yet they are allowed to create threads like this questioning why anyone hates ME3?

Hypocrites....

[Pkxm]

very buggy/glitchy and feels rushed. then theres the ending. ea/bioware should consider more thorough game testing and bug fixing before putting out games. if this the level of quality i can expect from future games i dont know if i want to continue buying them

Modifié par Jsxdf, 07 juin 2012 - 08:02 .

[AdamJenson]

Ianesta wrote...

The thing I don't get is why we have so many people who hate the game posting incessantly on this forum, it's annoying.

Why are there a handful of people who love the game posting incessantly on this forum?  I don't understand it.  Brown nosing isn't going to earn you game points.

[Xenirax]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Xenirax wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

You're referencing a Christopher Hitchens review to back up that point, Xenirax? Jeez.... I loved Hitch, but he never was part of the consensus on anything.

Don't get me wrong I love the books 1-6, it's the last 2 books that are terrible.

There are only 7 Harry Potter books.

Deathly hallows is broken down into pt1 and pt2 in my Audio book so it's 8 parts on my audio book.

Book 01 - Harry Potter and the Philosophers Stone
Book 02 - Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
Book 03 - Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Book 04 - Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
Book 05 - Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
Book 06 - Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
Book 07 - Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Pt 1
Book 07 - Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Pt 2

my bad andways want to address my main post and not the off-topic tangent.

Modifié par Xenirax, 07 juin 2012 - 08:07 .

[Father_Jerusalem]

i IIVIIorpheus wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

i IIVIIorpheus wrote...

Gotta love pro enders....

Very "Do as I say, not as I do" smug elitists...

Who is this aimed at? If you read the OP, he/she isn't pro-ending.

Aimed that the pro enders in this thread(we know who they are, they are in every thread), criticizing every legitimate complain as "immature" and "entitled" all the while generalizing the entire group of people who has issue with the series they care about.

I am a not nor have been a part of the retake movement(although I am pro retake) but my issue with the ridiculous, make no sense ending has automatically moved me into the "entitled retaker" category.  It's funny how just a couple of threads down proenders rip someone for creating a ridiculous thread about how ME3 was terrible, yet they are allowed to create threads like this questioning why anyone hates ME3?

Hypocrites....

Funny, I don't recall seeing anyone call you "immature" or "entitled", mostly this has been a fairly civil discussion. Maybe your victim complex is rearing its head again?

[MoonsKisu]

Kylamero wrote...

Up until my conversation with starchild it was the greatest game i had ever played.

After the end it was still a great game but that ending really did a number on me.

This. 

I certainly don't hate the game and I still love the ME universe. If I didn't, I wouldn't still be hanging around the forums. 

[Zhuinden]

KillaCam7i3 wrote...

Sure, the ending was bad, but it was a blast all the way up to that point. You people need to get over it. Extended Cut is on the way to fix that. I'm reading stuff here about how the entire series is now completely trash, and people will never even consider buying another ME game ever again. It sounds like the CoD people on Gamefaqs. Every year they say it's garbage, but they go and buy it anyway.

Because the game could have been MUCH more.

Especially with the whole What is the purpose of the reapers thing.

[AdamJenson]

Tigerblood and MilkShakes wrote...

*rasies hand*
pro-ender

these threads crack me up.somedays i wake up believeing im a totally dbag.then i see stuff like this and go "aaawwwww MaaN".this is totally next level right here.

"The gentlemen"

No one is "pro ender".  They are merely accepting of mediocrity.  Merely accepting.

[Abispa]

I'm sure if the game of checkers had a social network you'd see nothing but constant whining, unwarranted praise, or extended well-written, critical essays that may be accurate but still prove that some people like to obsess too much over a game.

[RAF1940]

spiros9110 wrote...
Game is great in many ways, but I find no replayability in it, compared to ME1&2.

I think this is the key thing for me that doesn't make it super.

When I first got ME2, I think I played through it 10 times in a row over the course of a few weeks. Not sure why, but it was still fun, so I kept playing.

I've only beaten ME3 once.

[AdamJenson]

RAF1940 wrote...

spiros9110 wrote...
Game is great in many ways, but I find no replayability in it, compared to ME1&2.

I think this is the key thing for me that doesn't make it super.

When I first got ME2, I think I played through it 10 times in a row over the course of a few weeks. Not sure why, but it was still fun, so I kept playing.

I've only beaten ME3 once.

Nope.  You don't beat ME3.  ME3 beats YOU.