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[LightningSamus]

I love the game, i prefer it more than the other Mass Effects but Dragon Age: Origins is my favourite Bioware game.

[i IIVIIorpheus]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

i IIVIIorpheus wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

i IIVIIorpheus wrote...

Gotta love pro enders....

Very "Do as I say, not as I do" smug elitists...

Who is this aimed at? If you read the OP, he/she isn't pro-ending.

Aimed that the pro enders in this thread(we know who they are, they are in every thread), criticizing every legitimate complain as "immature" and "entitled" all the while generalizing the entire group of people who has issue with the series they care about.

I am a not nor have been a part of the retake movement(although I am pro retake) but my issue with the ridiculous, make no sense ending has automatically moved me into the "entitled retaker" category.  It's funny how just a couple of threads down proenders rip someone for creating a ridiculous thread about how ME3 was terrible, yet they are allowed to create threads like this questioning why anyone hates ME3?

Hypocrites....

Funny, I don't recall seeing anyone call you "immature" or "entitled", mostly this has been a fairly civil discussion. Maybe your victim complex is rearing its head again?

Atakuma:

"They aren't mature enough to handle disappointment without lashing out like spoiled children.
"


Me thinks you have a reading comprehension problem.....

Modifié par i IIVIIorpheus, 07 juin 2012 - 08:19 .

[ghost9191]

i do not believe people hate the whole game, but when you have a ending that basically tells you the universe went to hell it is hard to replay it. i have replayed it a number of times. there are minor problems with the game but as a whole i found it good, didn't like the ending but i don't let that ruin the other 98% of it, for me anyways. some people on the other hand are kinda acting like spoiled kids that didn't get what they wanted for Christmas and some have good reason because the end is filled with plot holes and goes against the lore. but i don't think that many people hate the game as a whole

i said that many, ppl have their own opinions so whatever, just mine

[N7-RedFox]

KillaCam7i3 wrote...

Sure, the ending was bad, but it was a blast all the way up to that point. You people need to get over it. Extended Cut is on the way to fix that. I'm reading stuff here about how the entire series is now completely trash, and people will never even consider buying another ME game ever again. It sounds like the CoD people on Gamefaqs. Every year they say it's garbage, but they go and buy it anyway.

I don't hate the game. Just the SP ending. And the MP Pack Store.

Easy remedy:-

1) Add a forth ending that reflects the choices u made in the game.
2) Double the drop rate of N7 black card weapons in PSP's

[i IIVIIorpheus]

MoonsKisu wrote...

Kylamero wrote...

Up until my conversation with starchild it was the greatest game i had ever played.

After the end it was still a great game but that ending really did a number on me.

This. 

I certainly don't hate the game and I still love the ME universe. If I didn't, I wouldn't still be hanging around the forums. 

Me neither.  Matter of fact I loved the game although I am very disappointed in a few things(Lack of HUB worlds really upset me, that ridiculous ending, felt that my choices didn't matter).  But I guess you can't criticize something and still like it in some people eyes....

I'm here everyday BECAUSE I want to hear something....anything... about a trilogy I enjoy very much and HOPE that Bioware "is listening" that proenders keep claiming they are doing...

Modifié par i IIVIIorpheus, 07 juin 2012 - 08:49 .

[Il Divo]

I definitely don't hate the game. But the ending just blows all the way through. It fails on multiple levels, from an exposition standpoint, from a logic standpoint, and from a resolution standpoint.

[ghost9191]

i IIVIIorpheus wrote...

MoonsKisu wrote...

Kylamero wrote...

Up until my conversation with starchild it was the greatest game i had ever played.

After the end it was still a great game but that ending really did a number on me.

This. 

I certainly don't hate the game and I still love the ME universe. If I didn't, I wouldn't still be hanging around the forums. 

Me neither.  Matter of fact I loved the game although I am very disappointed in a few things(Lack of HUBS, that riduclous ending, felt that my choices didn't matter).  But I guess you can't criticize something and still like it in some people eyes....

I'm here everyday BECAUSE I want to hear something....anything... about a trilogy I enjoy very much and HOPE that Bioware "is listening" that proenders keep claiming they are doing...

the people that criticize something probably do it out of love. to make it better
ones that keep quiet and don't help it grow do not want the best for it. Through us pointing out flaws they have been able and are able to change bugs or other issues with the game and help fix and make it better as a whole. whereas if everyone just accepted it as it is then it would go no where for most people. and whatever you think about the ending, ec can only make it better so the criticism is a good thing, even for proenders cause it expands on what you already like

[AlanC9]

Xenirax wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

You're referencing a Christopher Hitchens review to back up that point, Xenirax? Jeez.... I loved Hitch, but he never was part of the consensus on anything.

Don't get me wrong I love the books 1-6, it's the last 2 books that are terrible.
anyways, should try to keep on topic, you basically just ADHD'd Harry potter like "hey i was outside walking yester day an. OH LOOK A POODLE" lol

I just thought it was more interesting than the official topic.

I still don't see any evidence that the rest of the world shares your opinion on the last two books. (Or one book -- even I'm not going to go there.)

[xsdob]

Becasue the hardcore ultraprg extremist think that their never has been prue rpg has been tainted with the commoner filth of mixed genre enthusiast and action-game players.

And the endings which were sub-par made many think that their previous devotion was a wasted effort, as if this were the second coming and we find out jesus is a taco who craps ice cream and tells them that the end times happened 1000 years ago and that they can stop praying to him now. It's the thought that a large portion of personal time and effort was wasted on something that was supposed to reward it but kinda didn't and just had a lackluster conclusion instead.

So pretty much warped points of view and biases combined with disappointment and a need to find reason for the disappointing result has lead to a massive increase in hate, cynicism, aggressive confrontationalism, and a general bad mood for any and all involved.

Modifié par xsdob, 07 juin 2012 - 08:45 .

[napushenko]

the games is better in every gameplay category then its predecessors,
it is the best game / series i ever played, and i hate the ending but dont want to give it that kind of importance, and rely on my imagination to cover some plotholes or unanswered questions.

as for the op question, i dont know, i understand the ending disapointment but it doesnt deserve this amount of hate by a long shot.

[napushenko]

xsdob wrote...

Becasue the hardcore ultraprg extremist think that their never has been prue rpg has been tainted with the commoner filth of mixed genre enthusiast and action-game players.

And the endings which were sub-par made many think that their previous devotion was a wasted effort, as if this were the second coming and we find out jesus is a taco who craps ice cream and tells them that the end times happened 1000 years ago and that they can stop praying to him now. It's the thought that a large portion of personal time and effort was wasted on something that was supposed to reward it but kinda didn't and just had a lackluster conclusion instead.

So pretty much warped points of view and biases combined with disappointment and a need to find reason for the disappointing result has lead to a massive increase in hate, cynicism, aggressive confrontationalism, and a general bad mood for any and all involved.

my thoughts exactly. only you wrote them much more awesomely.  

[Spitfire017]

I don't hate ME3, but I don't think it is the best out of the trilogy. The game feels like the first draft of a masterpiece. I hate when people write "the game was perfect up to the last ten minutes." BS...the game, like anything in life, is far from perfect. They did some things right, and a lot of things wrong or subpar. But I didn't notice until my 2nd playthrough. Ya, I choked up and got teary eyed at the same moments, but I also saw the flaws the game held. Most of my criticisms are story wise, then game play. And, the big problem is that the writing team changed. Take a look at Thane and Ashley. They were both written by the same guy. That guy left after ME2...and in ME3, their characters suffer greatly for it. The game also had a lot of missed opportunities to tell great stories and unnecessary drama as well (i.e the Udina coup).

Hell, Dragon Age Origins felt far superior story wise than ME3. But, the big problem is the ending.
Simply put, there is stuff I liked about the ending, and stuff I didn't like. But, it just wasn't executed well enough.

If Bioware had another year and ample resources, plus some of the older writers from ME1, ME3 would have been the masterpiece of RPG's. But no, we did not get this. We got a unfinished game instead.

Modifié par Spitfire017, 07 juin 2012 - 10:44 .

[wright1978]

spiros9110 wrote...

Auto-dialogue kills it for me. Game is great in many ways, but I find no replayability in it, compared to ME1&2.

Ending is atrocious and ohh yes auto-dialogue is utterly terrible. Really they did a tremendous job of mucking up the final part of the trilogy.

[napushenko]

Spitfire017 wrote...

I don't hate ME3, but I don't think it is the best out of the trilogy. The game feels like the first draft of a masterpiece. I hate when people write "the game was perfect up to the last ten minutes." BS...the game, like anything in life, is far from perfect. They did some things right, and a lot of things wrong or subpar. But I didn't notice until my 3rd playthrough. Ya, I choked up and got teary eyed at the same moments, but I also saw the flaws the game held. Most of my criticisms are story wise, then game play. And, the big problem is that the writing team changed. Take a look at Thane and Ashley. They were both written by the same guy. That guy left after ME2...and in ME3, their characters suffer greatly for it. The game also had a lot of missed opportunities to tell great stories and unnecessary drama as well (i.e the Udina coup).

Hell, Dragon Age Origins felt far superior story wise than ME3. But, the big problem is the ending.
Simply put, there is stuff I liked about the ending, and stuff I didn't like. But, it just wasn't executed well enough.

If Bioware had another year and ample resources, plus some of the older writers from ME1, ME3 would have been the masterpiece of RPG's. But no, we did not get this. We got a unfinished game instead.

if you need three playthroughs to spot some subpar things,. they must have done something right. 

[Haargel]

Actually I don't hate the game, I hate how it ended. Am disappointed with the fetch quests, the lack of other hub worlds then the citadel and the auto dialogue.

Though I considered that it had to be faster paced then previous games because there's a galaxy wide war going on.

I still support BioWare, waiting for the EC.

my 2 cents.

[Virginian]

I don't hate I just don't give a crap anymore.

It used to bother me that <insert character> died, now that I see videos on youtube of them dying I don't react at all.

[o Ventus]

Atakuma wrote...

They aren't mature enough to handle disappointment without lashing out like spoiled children.

It's people like you who make me ashamed to call myself a cynical.

[clipped_wolf]

Maybe Bioware was a victim of its own success and spectacularly failed to deliver on expectations created within its fan base.
The disappointing ending combined with seemingly intentional, misleading marketing (they lied to us) and poorly handled PR made tearing every aspect of gameplay a pastime. Anger leads to hate, and hate leads to spending more time and having more fun in the forums than playing the game.

the games is better in every gameplay category then its predecessors,

Fetch quests.

[N7Infernox]

LONG story short, it just isn't as replayable as the other games, and as a result, didn't feel like it was worth the $60+.

That's why I sold it.

[napushenko]

@jreezy ;
and say its average game after he just put more then 100 hours in it. willingly. you dont do that for subpar and bad products unless you really really like that subparity.


i did two playthroughs and its more then enough for me, for a long time at least. and i fcking love the game. 

Modifié par napushenko, 07 juin 2012 - 09:14 .

[Lamepro]

I had hope it would of ended better for the Paragon ending its sad to say he or she dies and turns to Ashes while the Renagade ending your breathing and alive.

[wright1978]

clipped_wolf wrote...

Maybe Bioware was a victim of its own success and spectacularly failed to deliver on expectations created within its fan base.
The disappointing ending combined with seemingly intentional, misleading marketing (they lied to us) and poorly handled PR made tearing every aspect of gameplay a pastime. Anger leads to hate, and hate leads to spending more time and having more fun in the forums than playing the game.

the games is better in every gameplay category then its predecessors,

Fetch quests.

I consider dialogue a gameplay category and ME3 completely failed in this regard ditching dialogue choice and stripping down dialogue wheel in favour of auto-dialogue. It is so atrociously worse than both its predecessors in this category.