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[napushenko]

Arcian wrote...

KillaCam7i3 wrote...

Sure, the ending was bad, but it was a blast all the way up to that point. You people need to get over it. Extended Cut is on the way to fix that. I'm reading stuff here about how the entire series is now completely trash, and people will never even consider buying another ME game ever again. It sounds like the CoD people on Gamefaqs. Every year they say it's garbage, but they go and buy it anyway.

Auto-dialogue, linear level design, linear story progression, bland character development, ridiculous content recycling, countless broken promises, sloppy animations, sloppy texturing, too much emphasis on "galactic war", too many forced emotional plot devices (the kid, for example), and most importantly:

More plot holes than a swiss plot cheese.

same as previous two games you meant to say?  
namely, linear level design, linear story progression, bland character development, RIDICOULOUS content recycling (this realy made me laugh), sloppy animations, sloppy texturing, plotholes and most importantly.. 

too much emphasis on "  " galactic war" " 
too much emphasis. 
really ? 

[DeathScepter]

where is the like button for the above post?

[clipped_wolf]

You have to admit Arcian, most of what you described in your post are weaknesses of the series, but with substantial side quests the linear story progression in 1 and 2 had room to breathe.

[napushenko]

clipped_wolf wrote...

You have to admit Arcian, most of what you described in your post are weaknesses of the series, but with substantial side quests the linear story progression in 1 and 2 had room to breathe.

maybe thats why the main story quests in me 2 were nowhere to be seen 

Modifié par napushenko, 07 juin 2012 - 09:44 .

[Father_Jerusalem]

i IIVIIorpheus wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

i IIVIIorpheus wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

i IIVIIorpheus wrote...

Gotta love pro enders....

Very "Do as I say, not as I do" smug elitists...

Who is this aimed at? If you read the OP, he/she isn't pro-ending.

Aimed that the pro enders in this thread(we know who they are, they are in every thread), criticizing every legitimate complain as "immature" and "entitled" all the while generalizing the entire group of people who has issue with the series they care about.

I am a not nor have been a part of the retake movement(although I am pro retake) but my issue with the ridiculous, make no sense ending has automatically moved me into the "entitled retaker" category.  It's funny how just a couple of threads down proenders rip someone for creating a ridiculous thread about how ME3 was terrible, yet they are allowed to create threads like this questioning why anyone hates ME3?

Hypocrites....

Funny, I don't recall seeing anyone call you "immature" or "entitled", mostly this has been a fairly civil discussion. Maybe your victim complex is rearing its head again?

Atakuma:

"They aren't mature enough to handle disappointment without lashing out like spoiled children.
"


Me thinks you have a reading comprehension problem.....

Maybe you should try some of that reading comprehension. Nobody's calling you entitled or immature simply for disliking the game. We're calling the ones who constantly lash out and scream and whine for month after month after month "spoiled children" because that's precisely what they're acting like.

Victim complex? Victim complex.

[Father_Jerusalem]

Arcian wrote...

KillaCam7i3 wrote...

Sure, the ending was bad, but it was a blast all the way up to that point. You people need to get over it. Extended Cut is on the way to fix that. I'm reading stuff here about how the entire series is now completely trash, and people will never even consider buying another ME game ever again. It sounds like the CoD people on Gamefaqs. Every year they say it's garbage, but they go and buy it anyway.

Auto-dialogue, linear level design, linear story progression, little to no character development, bland characters, ridiculous content recycling, countless broken promises, sloppy animations, sloppy texturing, too much emphasis on "galactic war", too many forced emotional plot devices (the kid, for example), and most importantly:

More plot holes than a swiss plot cheese.

In a video game about a galactic war... there was "too much emphasis" on... the galactic war?

...

What the ass?

[Freskione2]

spiros9110 wrote...

Auto-dialogue kills it for me. Game is great in many ways, but I find no replayability in it, compared to ME1&2.

This..mostly the no replayability. Was looking forward to seeing how my alternate endings played out. No point now. 

[Orkfaeller]

KillaCam7i3 wrote...

Sure, the ending was bad, but it was a blast all the way up to that point.

No it wasnt a "blast all the way up".

Short play time, auto-dialogue all the way, many decissions from ME1 & ME2 just ignored or rewritten.
Alot of "lies" from bioware's site about the ending and the game as a whole before release.

And ofcourse the ton of DLC thats allready on the disc.

[Bluko]

It's less hate and more disappointment. The best equivalent I can think of is you're on rollercoaster that starts off with a real rush, midway is a bit disorienting but tolerable, and then when you get to the end the guy that's sitting next to you throws up all over the place. Fun as it may have been before it's really hard to forget such an unpleasent experience. And for me it's likely to become a stigma towards riding a roller coaster ever again... especially that roller coaster in particular.

I still find it really disturbing they would attempt such a thing. Mostly because relying on a expansion will undoubtedly alienate some people from experiencing the complete story. But whatever... these days it seems acceptable to cut out characters and actual endings from the game. I mean imagine if you went to see Star Wars but had to pay $1 for Chewbacca to appear in the film. Also imagine you went to see Return of the Jedi but as soon as the Shield Generator on Endor blows up the screen fades to black. Sadly this is essentially what we have now with ME3. 


Unfortunately it's not just the end of ME3 that I don't like it. As a few others have stated there are some other issues. Such as:

-Auto-Dialogue/Reduction of Options (Seriously why was this done? How can anyone justify this as better?)
-Useless Journal and an overabundance of Fetch Quests (I'd rather scan the Keepers...)
-Odd Character Development (Anderson never explains why he isn't Councillor, Ashley magically goes from being the equivalent of a Sergeant to a Captain, etc.)
-Lot of past "choices" end up being made into a one case scenario. (Example: Rachni)
-Lot of glitches on par with or exceeding ME1

Now I'm not saying the entire game is bad as I did like:

-Weapon Weight System (Could have done without the Weapon Upgrades)
-Variety of Weapons (More mods would have been nice)
-Additional Powers Upgrades
-Better Melee Function
-Level Environments

Sadly that's about where it ends for me. And those things only pertain to the combat aspect of the game. I certainly appreciate the work that went into it. I just wish the rest of the game could have at least matched it's predecessors in the other and arguably more important aspects. Really about the only appeal for me to replay the game would be the combat. Unfortunately the way the story and characters were handled is such a buzzkill I just can't justify other playthroughs. Even if the Extended Cut provides a final segment more like the Suicide Mission I'm unsure I'll actually want to replay the game.

I still can not reconcile how so many things got screwed up so bad. Part of me hopes I'll find out why... even though I admit it's pretty unlikely. Also to a certain extent I believe it's only right that I do point out what I believe is wrong. Sorry but I'm just not interested in gushing over fictional characters.

[mauro2222]

It wasn't so hard to understand what Arcian meant with "Galactic War", there's no need to play stupid.

[The Real Bowser]

Atakuma wrote...

They aren't mature enough to handle disappointment without lashing out like spoiled children.

This game's community has mostly killed it for me.  Players like the one I quoted especially.

Everyone who ever cared about Mass effect or helped build it into what made it great is gone.  This is true for BSN too.  BSN is among the most pathetic, disgusting online communities I've ever had the displeasure of visiting.  It used to have its cadre of likable people, but the majority of the quit when everything went south.  I am, too.  Not sure why I am even posting here, it's a waste of my time, but you asked, so I answered.

Just looking for updates on the DLC, I guess.  I haven't played this g ame since march and I doubt anything but that DLC will make me load up the disks again.

[o Ventus]

The Real Bowser wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

They aren't mature enough to handle disappointment without lashing out like spoiled children.

This game's community has mostly killed it for me.  Players like the one I quoted especially.

Everyone who ever cared about Mass effect or helped build it into what made it great is gone.  This is true for BSN too.  BSN is among the most pathetic, disgusting online communities I've ever had the displeasure of visiting.  It used to have its cadre of likable people, but the majority of the quit when everything went south.  I am, too.  Not sure why I am even posting here, it's a waste of my time, but you asked, so I answered.

Just looking for updates on the DLC, I guess.  I haven't played this g ame since march and I doubt anything but that DLC will make me load up the disks again.

If you're leaving because you don't like the community, why did you bother telling us? Are you looking for sympathy?

Well, don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

[Father_Jerusalem]

mauro2222 wrote...

It wasn't so hard to understand what Arcian meant with "Galactic War", there's no need to play stupid.

He meant the entire overarching plot of the game, and in THAT case, there's simply nothing that can be done, he was going to hate it no matter what. And in THAT case, I can safely dismiss his opinion as that of a whiner.

[Soccer FeverMan]

Volus Warlord wrote...

I wanted to love it, but couldn't justify loving it. I expected much, and the game didn't live up to what it was intended to be.

So true, the potential it had wasted, just wasted...

[napushenko]

and whats that with no replayability.

ok, just a single question if anyone can answer it.

what was so replayable in me 2 that it lacks in me 3 ? 
dont tell me auto-dialogue. you have dialogue wheel for every above average conversation in game.and you get a lot of those. so, choices are there. its not like it was all cutscenes with no input. i dont remember any single decision shepard made without my input. auto-dialogue was fluff.

Modifié par napushenko, 07 juin 2012 - 10:22 .

[MegaSovereign]

By people you mean BSN.

They hated ME2 until ME3 released. It's just the cycle repeating again.

[Father_Jerusalem]

jreezy wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

What the ass?

I gotta start using that line. Tis a good one.

Feel free, I'm sure I stole it from someone myself.

[The Spamming Troll]

considering ME3 was the third attempt at making a ME game, and turned out to be the worst in the series, id say thats what people hate about it.

the regression of it all is what disappoints me.

[lillitheris]

napushenko wrote...

and whats that with no replayability.

ok, just a single question if anyone can answer it.

what was so replayable in me 2 that it lacks in me 3 ?

Dunno, it’s hard to explain when no reasons are considered ‘valid’ by you. Although the ending kind of affects my enjoyment of ME2 now, too :/

[Unpleasant Implications]

Story events are contrived, choices barely matter, and the ending destroys civilization.

Then it turns out you're a child being told this story by an old man in the future, so whatever choice you make ends in the same damn thing, in a game that marketed choices mattering as a big thing.

That's what let me down.

Modifié par Unpleasant Implications, 07 juin 2012 - 10:27 .

[ChurchOfZod]

For me it's just profound disappointment of what could have been the biggest and best video game trilogy ending of all time. Instead it feels like a half dead runner was dragged the last mile of a race and across the finish line. And I'm not just talking about the ending. It's the wholesale dismissal of the ME2 crew, the fetch quests etc. The ending was just the icing on a bad tasting cake.

[wright1978]

napushenko wrote...

and whats that with no replayability.

ok, just a single question if anyone can answer it.

what was so replayable in me 2 that it lacks in me 3 ? 
dont tell me auto-dialogue. you have dialogue wheel for every above average conversation in game.and you get a lot of those. so, choices are there. its not like it was all cutscenes with no input. i dont remember any single decision shepard made without my input. auto-dialogue was fluff.

Well we'll just have to agree to disagree as i found auto-dialogue to be hugely damaging to characterisation of Shep and hugely prevalent in character definign moments. The presence of reams and reams of this new canon shep in place of the character i spent 2 games sculpting through the dialogue wheel destroyed replayability.