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[Taboo]

This is the most opportune time. It's a great venue and a place for them to go big or go home.

[Mcfly616]

STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE!!!!!!!!

[Epic777]

Taboo-XX wrote...

This is the most opportune time. It's a great venue and a place for them to go big or go home.

[M920CAIN]

Oh no no no no no no no... You ain't foolin' anyone this time Mr. Gamble. Same goes for you Mr. Hudson and Mackie boy.

[Tazzmission]

Taboo-XX wrote...

EA DID NOT WRITE THE SCRIPT.

EA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ENDING CONTENT.

just ignore them man there never gona understand it

its like yelling at the deaf


ive stated this for going on 4 months and learned they aint gona listen and there gona believe what they want to believe

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Oh great, let's see more multiplayer stuff.

[aj2070]

Tazzmission wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

EA DID NOT WRITE THE SCRIPT.

EA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ENDING CONTENT.

just ignore them man there never gona understand it

its like yelling at the deaf


ive stated this for going on 4 months and learned they aint gona listen and there gona believe what they want to believe

What?!

[Reptilian Rob]

Tazzmission wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

EA DID NOT WRITE THE SCRIPT.

EA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ENDING CONTENT.

just ignore them man there never gona understand it

its like yelling at the deaf


ive stated this for going on 4 months and learned they aint gona listen and there gona believe what they want to believe

No sense was made. 

[wantedman dan]

Tazzmission wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

EA DID NOT WRITE THE SCRIPT.

EA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ENDING CONTENT.

just ignore them man there never gona understand it

its like yelling at the deaf


ive stated this for going on 4 months and learned they aint gona listen and there gona believe what they want to believe

I find this to be mildly funny.

[GroverA125]

Hate to burst your bubbles gentlemen, but anything they do give us on an olive branch will most likely NOT include anything about the ending. I have a feeling that they will be adding some other content as well as "clarification". (Most likely reason being that they aren't actually adding that much to the ending, so to try desperately to keep the unsatisfied happy they will add pre-ending content to silence them to better effect) If they release anything then, it'll either be a video showing it as released, or it will be something other than ending content, as they're keeping it under wraps for a good reason (if they do give any information out prior to release, it has the potential to create monumental backlash)

[Baa Baa]

What if they announce EC details AND... a new downloadable ending?

Too bad that will never happen... we'll be lucky if they even give us EC details

[Fingertrip]

First glimpse of the Mass Effect movie artwork and first-cast list.

Don't ask me where I got my sources, but yes- there you have it.

[eternalnightmare13]

xsdob wrote...

From the Twitter thread.

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Likely EC related:

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/210890766980096002
"There's crunch, and then there's Parrish Ley crunch. Holy hell."

Parish Ley is Lead Cinematic Animator for ME3

Vertigo_1 wrote...

And this:

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/210893678212939776
"Put together the #SDCC roster today. Lot's of great stuff to talk about *and* show there."

Show eh?

SDCC is July 12-15

Meh, this all has to do with them releaseding 3 on the new Nintendo console.  I betcha....

[UrgentArchengel]

Well, he did talk with another dev or something on there about getting work done...I do expect EC, or at least a freaking release date.

[NOD-INFORMER37]

Taboo-XX wrote...

EA DID NOT WRITE THE SCRIPT.

EA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ENDING CONTENT.

Even if EA didnt write the story themselves, they still have final say on alot of things. So they do have something to with it. (Although I wish they didnt)

Not to mention their infamous anti-midas touch whenever they become involved with game companies....  

[comrade gando]

if it's anything other than EC news than something unfortunate might happen to someone...

[Taboo]

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...



Even if EA didnt write the story themselves, they still have final say on alot of things. So they do have something to with it. (Although I wish they didnt)

Not to mention their infamous anti-midas touch whenever they become involved with game companies....  

No. They don't. They give the money to make the project and everything else is up to the director. Everything you see here is a direct result of Mr. Hudson's failure to execute the ending properly. Walters is in the same boat.

[Reptilian Rob]

Taboo-XX wrote...

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...



Even if EA didnt write the story themselves, they still have final say on alot of things. So they do have something to with it. (Although I wish they didnt)

Not to mention their infamous anti-midas touch whenever they become involved with game companies....  

No. They don't. They give the money to make the project and everything else is up to the director. Everything you see here is a direct result of Mr. Hudson's failure to execute the ending properly. Walters is in the same boat.

I don't think you know how a publisher can influance creative work in the video game industry. It's a far different beast than film. 

[xsdob]

Actually in a recent interview EA's influence was shown to be pretty insignificant, all they really do is throw money at bioware and tell them to make a good game, that's about it.

Can't find it since it was removed from the twitter thread, but it was an interview with the head producer for bioware Montreal.

Interestingly enough, apparently it and all other post relating to it were removed, all concerning the fact that it said it would be giving players a new ending in the EC.

Interview with dorian kerken, development director. His interview was the one removed, here is an excprect that lead to the thread being closed amoung other reasons.

"That's why the Dragon Age 3 team turned to the BioWare forums to ask
what the fans wanted from the finished game. That's why you will soon be
able to play free DLC that alters the ending of Mass Effect 3. And
Kieken refutes the idea that either is evidence of BioWare simply
pandering to the vocal minority and undermining its creative vision.
Rather, he sees it is an indication of BioWare's greater respect for the
relationship between games and their players, and its growing skill for
finding and filtering balanced criticism."

Modifié par xsdob, 09 juin 2012 - 12:21 .

[Stalker]

Taboo-XX wrote...

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...



Even if EA didnt write the story themselves, they still have final say on alot of things. So they do have something to with it. (Although I wish they didnt)

Not to mention their infamous anti-midas touch whenever they become involved with game companies....  

No. They don't. They give the money to make the project and everything else is up to the director. Everything you see here is a direct result of Mr. Hudson's failure to execute the ending properly. Walters is in the same boat.

I think that's a thing that many don't seem to understand. Too many make EA responsible for what happened to Mass Effect and vote them the worst company of the US.

Fact is, BioWare had 2 years of development with budget support from the biggest in the business.
Every issue the game has is because of the responsible directors. Hudson for the overall project and Walters on the crappy writing.

[Taboo]

Reptilian Rob wrote...
I don't think you know how a publisher can influance creative work in the video game industry. It's a far different beast than film. 

I don't think you guys understand. No sane executive would have let this out the door. Bioware was given money to do this. Everything that is ending related falls at Hudson's feet.

Understand that a disconnect is FAR more harmful than EA will ever be. This is why Hudson and Walters vanished. They are the most responsible. And the people underneath them have to pick up the pieces. Those individuals are Mr. Buskell, Mr. Gamble, Mr.Weekes Mr. Priestly and Miss Merizan.

Those five are the reason that the entire thing hasn't gone to **** yet, at least on the BSN. Without there efforts, relations wouldn't be at the level they are now.

Most producers are awful people. Truly awful. If anything the people who deserve the most praise ARE Mr. Buskell and Mr. Gamble. I talked with the former for twenty minutes. Twenty minutes. Most producers only venture to talk with you unless you stop nuzzling their backside.

There is no plot. It was just bad and the most mature people are picking up the pieces.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 09 juin 2012 - 12:23 .

[Reptilian Rob]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...
I don't think you know how a publisher can influance creative work in the video game industry. It's a far different beast than film. 

Understand that a disconnect is FAR more harmful than EA will ever be.

Does not compute. 

[dreamgazer]

I like how these discussions arrive at a conclusion that essentially assumes that Walters and Hudson scribbled something down late one night, with complete disregard and sense, and turned it in the next morning.

The whole thing was made from top to bottom, and plenty of people saw it beforehand. It's not a hastily-scribbled piece of paper thrown at the teacher at the last minute. This was made, and many elements in the conclusion deserve more credit than the acid-spewing they currently receive.

Note: the relays and the Normandy crash are currently outside that bubble, due to the extreme variable nature of their ... uh, meaning. But we'll see what comes of those later on. That's what clarity's for.

[Reptilian Rob]

xsdob wrote...

Actually in a recent interview EA's influence was shown to be pretty insignificant, all they really do is throw money at bioware and tell them to make a good game, that's about it.

Can't find it since it was removed from the twitter thread, but it was an interview with the head producer for bioware Montreal.

Interestingly enough, apparently it and all other post relating to it were removed, all concerning the fact that it said it would be giving players a new ending in the EC.

Interview with dorian kerken, development director. His interview was the one removed, here is an excprect that lead to the thread being closed amoung other reasons.

"That's why the Dragon Age 3 team turned to the BioWare forums to ask
what the fans wanted from the finished game. That's why you will soon be
able to play free DLC that alters the ending of Mass Effect 3. And
Kieken refutes the idea that either is evidence of BioWare simply
pandering to the vocal minority and undermining its creative vision.
Rather, he sees it is an indication of BioWare's greater respect for the
relationship between games and their players, and its growing skill for
finding and filtering balanced criticism."

Interesting...

Thanks for the info!

[Taboo]

dreamgazer wrote...

I like how these discussions arrive at a conclusion that essentially assumes that Walters and Hudson scribbled something down late one night, with complete disregard and sense, and turned it in the next morning.

The whole thing was made from top to bottom, and plenty of people saw it beforehand. It's not a hastily-scribbled piece of paper thrown at the teacher at the last minute. This was made, and many elements in the conclusion deserve more credit than the acid-spewing they currently receive.

Note: the relays and the Normandy crash are currently outside that bubble, due to the extreme variable nature of their ... uh, meaning. But we'll see what comes of those later on. That's what clarity's for.

I never said that. They were still at the helm when the ship crashed. You and I both know how the ladder of blame works.