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[VAIOMANIAC]

Oh boy here we go :

Modifié par VAIOMANIAC, 09 juin 2012 - 12:58 .

[Ryoten]

Taboo-XX wrote...

****...........YEAH?

I'm guessing this will be a big.............................GAMBLE.

[Kunari801]

elegolas1 wrote...

When is it?
Has bioware mentioned if they'll talk about the ec at sdcc?

When: July 12-15th

[CDRSkyShepard]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...
I don't think you know how a publisher can influance creative work in the video game industry. It's a far different beast than film. 

I don't think you guys understand. No sane executive would have let this out the door. Bioware was given money to do this. Everything that is ending related falls at Hudson's feet.

Understand that a disconnect is FAR more harmful than EA will ever be. This is why Hudson and Walters vanished. They are the most responsible. And the people underneath them have to pick up the pieces. Those individuals are Mr. Buskell, Mr. Gamble, Mr.Weekes Mr. Priestly and Miss Merizan.

Those five are the reason that the entire thing hasn't gone to **** yet, at least on the BSN. Without there efforts, relations wouldn't be at the level they are now.

Most producers are awful people. Truly awful. If anything the people who deserve the most praise ARE Mr. Buskell and Mr. Gamble. I talked with the former for twenty minutes. Twenty minutes. Most producers only venture to talk with you unless you stop nuzzling their backside.

There is no plot. It was just bad and the most mature people are picking up the pieces.

You are assuming a) executives are sane and they actually know what they're doing. The execs at EA know next to nothing about games. They're suits, not game guys. My blame goes on the execs, Dr. Ray, Casey and Mac. The high levels. (I won't even go into the fact that Ray actually thought the game was amazing in every way, and that is quoted from an article pre-launch. Want to pitch the "sane" thing again?)

If you want to think EA doesn't heavily influence their dev underlings, think again. I'd also direct you to a friend of mine who was asked, by EA, to do a project after they slashed the budget by half. That project never got finished. If they control the money, they control everything. Also, don't underestimate their stupidity: I wouldn't put it past the EA execs to tell BioWare "your funds are now being split and re-allocated elsewhere. Make do." It happens in any industry all the time.

Casey and Mac get saddled with some blame because they should have been able to better adapt to the circumstances instead of making up some crap to shove out and hope the fans would take it. Yeah. No. Not a good plan.

[UrgentArchengel]

I agree with both Taboo and SkyShepard.

Casey and Walters did both fail, and now it's up to the producers and such to fix this possibly unfixable mess. And yes, money is a very powerful thing. It's not like Casey and Walters had some diabolical scheme to nuke the franchise and get lots of bank off it. Conning all the fans and players who believed every little lie out of their mouths.

[MegaSovereign]

UrgentArchengel wrote...

I agree with both Taboo and SkyShepard.

Casey and Walters did both fail, and now it's up to the producers and such to fix this possibly unfixable mess. And yes, money is a very powerful thing. It's not like Casey and Walters had some diabolical scheme to nuke the franchise and get lots of bank off it. Conning all the fans and players who believed every little lie out of their mouths.

Don't get me wrong, Bioware messed up badly with this ending.

But I can clean up a lot of the plot holes (through my headcanon) and I'm not even a professional writer.

They CAN make the concepts work. They just have to execute it in a fashion that doesn't destroy/disregard a lot of the established narrative.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 09 juin 2012 - 05:46 .

[eddieoctane]

Fingertrip wrote...

First glimpse of the Mass Effect movie artwork and first-cast list.

Don't ask me where I got my sources, but yes- there you have it.

Was it the voices who usually tell you to burn things? I think they mentioned something about this.

[Josh123914]

eddieoctane wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...

First glimpse of the Mass Effect movie artwork and first-cast list.

Don't ask me where I got my sources, but yes- there you have it.

Was it the voices who usually tell you to burn things? I think they mentioned something about this.

Ahh, we have found a Listener Night-Mother!
*cough* sorry about that, anyway, it probably won't be anything other than a release date when it comes to the EC, since it would be monumentally stupid to show off a game's ENDING at a convention, so it'll probably be about the comics, the Deception re-write (where's their ''Artistic Integrity'' there?) or the movie that we haven't heard a peep out of since last year.

[Mezantine]

This was posted on the mass effect sub reddit. (if it has already been posted my apologies for reposting)

Mass Effect™ 3: Earth:

The fighting is fiercest when it's your home at stake! Mass Effect 3™: Earth adds mods, gear, and new maps for Rio, Vancouver, and London. It features 3 new weapons: Piranha assault shotgun, Acolyte pistol, and Typhoon light machine gun. Six new human N7 classes are also available: Destroyer, Paladin, Demolisher, Slayer, Shadow, and Fury!

And as a bonus, Mass Effect™ 3: Extended Cut:

An expanded ending for Mass Effect 3. Additional scenes and an extended epilogue reveal the impact of Shepard's choices on the future of the galaxy.

(Nothing that you guys didn't already know about the Extended Cut, but it's at least done.)

[PrussianBlue]

SPECULATIONS.

[Chris-1983]

Oh Oh.... maybe they had another artistic vision and they proudly present the 3 other colour endings they created in the last months.

[Darth Spike]

I'm gonna call BS on that statment. He's just saying that for good buplisity and hype for Bioware. They did the same thing with PAX. Does anyone else remember all the Bull$&t promises they gave us for PAX. I won't beleive any promises he makes until i see what he says.

[tettenjager]

any news?

[Peranor]

The only "stuff" that will be shown at Comic-Con is the Bioware employees backside and an occasional middle finger to the people that really thought that they were going to change the ending.

[WolfyZA]

They will never.. EVER.. EVER change the ending.. Just add-on to it a bit.. Well that's what I expect them to do.. some fans are like expecting a whole 4+ hour campaign add-on like they are carrying on... Sure glad I'm not one of them.

[NM_Che56]

I'm all a twitter. LULZ

[Jonata]

Mezantine wrote...

This was posted on the mass effect sub reddit. (if it has already been posted my apologies for reposting)

Mass Effect™ 3: Earth:

The fighting is fiercest when it's your home at stake! Mass Effect 3™: Earth adds mods, gear, and new maps for Rio, Vancouver, and London. It features 3 new weapons: Piranha assault shotgun, Acolyte pistol, and Typhoon light machine gun. Six new human N7 classes are also available: Destroyer, Paladin, Demolisher, Slayer, Shadow, and Fury!

And as a bonus, Mass Effect™ 3: Extended Cut:

An expanded ending for Mass Effect 3. Additional scenes and an extended epilogue reveal the impact of Shepard's choices on the future of the galaxy.

(Nothing that you guys didn't already know about the Extended Cut, but it's at least done.)

"As a bonus"!?

"Oh, we finally have the multiplayer DLC we were all waiting for! And look, there are some bonus additional cutscenes for the SP, maybe I'll look at them while I play MP incessantly with all those DLCs I was waiting for."

[BaladasDemnevanni]

Jonata wrote...

Mezantine wrote...

This was posted on the mass effect sub reddit. (if it has already been posted my apologies for reposting)

Mass Effect™ 3: Earth:

The fighting is fiercest when it's your home at stake! Mass Effect 3™: Earth adds mods, gear, and new maps for Rio, Vancouver, and London. It features 3 new weapons: Piranha assault shotgun, Acolyte pistol, and Typhoon light machine gun. Six new human N7 classes are also available: Destroyer, Paladin, Demolisher, Slayer, Shadow, and Fury!

And as a bonus, Mass Effect™ 3: Extended Cut:

An expanded ending for Mass Effect 3. Additional scenes and an extended epilogue reveal the impact of Shepard's choices on the future of the galaxy.

(Nothing that you guys didn't already know about the Extended Cut, but it's at least done.)

"As a bonus"!?

"Oh, we finally have the multiplayer DLC we were all waiting for! And look, there are some bonus additional cutscenes for the SP, maybe I'll look at them while I play MP incessantly with all those DLCs I was waiting for."

Yeah, it really sounds like they're trying to downplay its importance.

[M920CAIN]

felipejiraya wrote...

 **** is going to get real very soon.


A big shot wrote "lot's".

https://twitter.com/...893678212939776 

[Goaliebot]

Jonata wrote...

"As a bonus"!?

"Oh, we finally have the multiplayer DLC we were all waiting for! And look, there are some bonus additional cutscenes for the SP, maybe I'll look at them while I play MP incessantly with all those DLCs I was waiting for."

REAL fans buy MP equipment packs with real money.


(and yes, that's annoyed sarcasm at BW/EA)

[SimonTheFrog]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...
I don't think you know how a publisher can influance creative work in the video game industry. It's a far different beast than film. 

I don't think you guys understand. No sane executive would have let this out the door. Bioware was given money to do this. Everything that is ending related falls at Hudson's feet.

Understand that a disconnect is FAR more harmful than EA will ever be. This is why Hudson and Walters vanished. They are the most responsible. And the people underneath them have to pick up the pieces. Those individuals are Mr. Buskell, Mr. Gamble, Mr.Weekes Mr. Priestly and Miss Merizan.

Those five are the reason that the entire thing hasn't gone to **** yet, at least on the BSN. Without there efforts, relations wouldn't be at the level they are now.

Most producers are awful people. Truly awful. If anything the people who deserve the most praise ARE Mr. Buskell and Mr. Gamble. I talked with the former for twenty minutes. Twenty minutes. Most producers only venture to talk with you unless you stop nuzzling their backside.

There is no plot. It was just bad and the most mature people are picking up the pieces.

You are assuming a) executives are sane and they actually know what they're doing. The execs at EA know next to nothing about games. They're suits, not game guys. My blame goes on the execs, Dr. Ray, Casey and Mac. The high levels. (I won't even go into the fact that Ray actually thought the game was amazing in every way, and that is quoted from an article pre-launch. Want to pitch the "sane" thing again?)

If you want to think EA doesn't heavily influence their dev underlings, think again. I'd also direct you to a friend of mine who was asked, by EA, to do a project after they slashed the budget by half. That project never got finished. If they control the money, they control everything. Also, don't underestimate their stupidity: I wouldn't put it past the EA execs to tell BioWare "your funds are now being split and re-allocated elsewhere. Make do." It happens in any industry all the time.

Casey and Mac get saddled with some blame because they should have been able to better adapt to the circumstances instead of making up some crap to shove out and hope the fans would take it. Yeah. No. Not a good plan.

There was an interesting article on GamesIndustry: bioware-we-havent-had-a-breakthrough-success confirming your post that EA has basically nothing to do with what BioWare does. EA sets the budget and the expected return. BioWare has to do everything else. This includes the EC and other DLC's.

I'm not trying to protect EA. But it seems that they are much less involved in the ME franchise than what people think.

[jsadalia]

Jonata wrote...

Mezantine wrote...

This was posted on the mass effect sub reddit. (if it has already been posted my apologies for reposting)

Mass Effect™ 3: Earth:

The fighting is fiercest when it's your home at stake! Mass Effect 3™: Earth adds mods, gear, and new maps for Rio, Vancouver, and London. It features 3 new weapons: Piranha assault shotgun, Acolyte pistol, and Typhoon light machine gun. Six new human N7 classes are also available: Destroyer, Paladin, Demolisher, Slayer, Shadow, and Fury!

And as a bonus, Mass Effect™ 3: Extended Cut:

An expanded ending for Mass Effect 3. Additional scenes and an extended epilogue reveal the impact of Shepard's choices on the future of the galaxy.

(Nothing that you guys didn't already know about the Extended Cut, but it's at least done.)

"As a bonus"!?

"Oh, we finally have the multiplayer DLC we were all waiting for! And look, there are some bonus additional cutscenes for the SP, maybe I'll look at them while I play MP incessantly with all those DLCs I was waiting for."

I believe the "as a bonus" thing was poorly worded by the person who posted the leak.  He, the leaker, included the information as a bonus.  EC is not included with "Earth" as a bonus. It's entirely separate.

[dorktainian]

even seperate.... the EC will solve nothing. Still the same crappy ending.

[Xandurpein]

Well if they promise it'll be good, I'm sure it will be. It's not that they have failed to deliver on their hype before. Oh wait...

[wh00ley 06]

Read this as June. Thought it was today.......