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[Seboist]

wiggles89 wrote...

Flyprdu wrote...

The more important point is 'Why in God's name would you wait so long to recruit Liara?!'

Because Therum is a boring quest and Liara is a boring character?

True,Therum is a glorifed uncharted world and Liara's a dull JRPG-esque social retard school girl.

[thesnake777]

arial wrote...

they were not able to record lines for every possible eventuality. if they did you would have about 8gigs worth of dialogue

.......I would buy this dlc.....

[Joccaren]

arial wrote...

they were not able to record lines for every possible eventuality. if they did you would have about 8gigs worth of dialogue

And I have no problem with that.
IMO games these days need to get bigger and more ambitious - put some actual stress on my system. Maybe one day I'll have to dedicate a harddrive to a single game. Now that game would be amazing. The amount of content in it would keep me entertained forever.

But yeah, money, time and lack of likelihood of many eventuallities resulted in not every eventuality being catered for.

[Wulfram]

I doubt they had a plot flag set for when you recruited Liara.

[Gerza71]

I like Liara as a character in Mass Effect games. So what she acts like a school girl in the first game. In the second game she was cold, distend and brash. In the third game she is almost human and start getting little too close. I know she saved Shepard in ME2 and he or she is very thankful for that. Some of my Shepard's likes her and some don't. With the some don't I find it unconformable when she get close.

In ME3 I get her team up with Javik most of the time because of the banter between those two.

[Tigerman123]

If you recruit Liara late in the game you get different dialogue from her than you would otherwise, so it does make sense to recruit her later

Modifié par Tigerman123, 08 juin 2012 - 09:42 .

[Haargel]

Well, that's what you get. They messed with the ending and I'm also upset by it.

But turning every goddamn stone just to look for another fault is getting ridiculous.

[Joe Del Toro]

Bit harsh to expect them to cover daft little eventualities like this as well. There's bigger inconsistencies worthy of attention.

[Jenonax]

Liara's the Shadow Broker, dude, she should not only know of dead Wrex but have thoughts and feeling over him too. It is her job, after all.

[Jadebaby]

grey_wind wrote...

Honestly, I can forgive a scripting error like this. It's just a bit of throwaway dialogue that doesn't really affect anything.
It just seems worse than it is because there are so many other problems with the game.

[ZerebusPrime]

Rescuing Liara dead last in ME1 and then being as rude as possible to her still gives me the giggles. Her brain just about explodes from the repeated traumas of 1: being stuck in the bubble for so long, 2: being suddenly yelled at, and 3: having 90% of her research rendered irrelevant all within a very short time frame.

[Xeranx]

wiggles89 wrote...

ashwind wrote...

No wonder Bioware and other developers now make games that are more linear because people just like to complain for the sake of complaining.

Yeah that must be the reason lol

This is why the whole backlash worries me since Bioware is the only company that does what they do. 

[Rombomm]

Reth Shepherd wrote...

Another case where Bioware didn't create unique dialogue for that eventuality. Garrus still talks about being there during the hunt for Saren even if you didn't recruit him in ME1. I can't remember exactly what, but I believe there's some shenanigans with Legion/his replacement's dialogue if you handed him over to Cerberus in ME2.

EDIT: upon further consideration, I'm fairly sure that there wasn't a flag for when in ME1 Liara was released from her bubble, so there's no way Bioware could have known which players to trigger a non-Wrex line for. Even had they wanted to.

There is a flag, actually. If you take too long to recruit Liara in ME1 (as in, after Virmire and everything else except her and Ilos) then she gets extra dialogue where she thinks she is hallucinating and such.

This dialogue ONLY triggers after Virmire, Feros, and Noveria are done.

[Seifer006]

arial wrote...

they were not able to record lines for every possible eventuality. if they did you would have about 8gigs worth of dialogue

good. I paid $ for the game, I expect quality and replay value to be unique and different

[EricHVela]

Jenonax wrote...

Liara's the Shadow Broker, dude, she should not only know of dead Wrex but have thoughts and feeling over him too. It is her job, after all.

This would be viable if she wasn't so bad at it.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

Considering how much ME1-referencing dialogue Garrus has (I recall him bragging to Vega that he helped take down Saren and Tali reminding him about how she killed more geth on Ilos than he did) when he can be skipped in that game, I'd consider that a bigger issue than this.

[Alien1099]

arial wrote...

they were not able to record lines for every possible eventuality. if they did you would have about 8gigs worth of dialogue

Wrong. It's called lack of continuity due to incompetence.

Modifié par Alien1099, 08 juin 2012 - 05:15 .

[Nefla]

Seboist wrote...

wiggles89 wrote...

Flyprdu wrote...

The more important point is 'Why in God's name would you wait so long to recruit Liara?!'

Because Therum is a boring quest and Liara is a boring character?

True,Therum is a glorifed uncharted world and Liara's a dull JRPG-esque social retard school girl.

I totally agree. I always wait until I've done everything else to recruit Liara, I wish you didn't have to get her at all. Same thing with Merril from DA2, why can't we skip these wastes of space?

[Super Nothing]

bboynexus wrote...

Honestly, doing Therum as the last core world mission before Ilos is ****ing ridiculous!

Even if you dislike Liara.

What if he carried forward the save file from his first play through of ME1?  How could he have known the best order to do the missions in without having looked at a guide first? 

[Super Nothing]

Jenonax wrote...

Liara's the Shadow Broker, dude, she should not only know of dead Wrex but have thoughts and feeling over him too. It is her job, after all.

If Wrex dies on Virmire, then he never really goes on to do anything notable.  He was a mercenary and a former leader of a Krogan clan.  He would be about as important as the thousands of faceless Cerberus mooks that Shepard killed in ME3 and would not be worth the Shadow Broker's attention.  While still alive, he might have been noteworthy to the Yahg Shadow Broker because he was a good mercenary, but Liara doesn't become the Shadow Broker for a few years after Wrex would have been killed. 

Modifié par Super Nothing, 08 juin 2012 - 05:56 .

[Han Shot First]

bboynexus wrote...

Honestly, doing Therum as the last core world mission before Ilos is ****ing ridiculous!

Even if you dislike Liara.

This.

Even though you are giving the option of doing Therum last, it doesn't make any sense if you do.

[Wulfram]

But do you know Jack?

[Foxhound2121]

Seriously? You guys are asking this type of question again?


It's unbelievably obvious. It's the same answer for half of all the other questions like why does everyone know Liara is the shadowbroker.

Are you just trolling OP?

Please tell me you know the answer to your own question. Stop making stupid threads.

Modifié par Foxhound2121, 08 juin 2012 - 05:56 .