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[ArchDragonDranovis]

So I'm going back into Baldur's Gate 2 and I am currently trying to figure out what I should play as.
I am a fan of DnD and I have played this game many times before. Not a single one was a complete playthrough for various reasons, but now I am confident I can get a playthrough completed. I do have ToB installed as well. I'm not sure what mods I have on, I'll have to check since I have not touched this game since 2010 (What was I doing not playing this amazing game?)

But I'm digressing. I can play this game with any class, I am a very versatile player and there isn't a learning curve too deep for me, but mastery is always beyond my grasp. What I want is some ultimate reason to play as class A over class B. I love dynamic gameplay, but sometimes simple brute force with a fighter is ridiculously fun as well. There are four classes I will not play though. This may dissappoint, but they are Sorceror, Babarian, Monk, and Bard.

I guess what I want is the reasons why you guys (and girls) play asyour favorite class(es). Maybe something will inspire me, as I am suffering from the most annoying form of indecisivenesss. class choice.

Thank you for taking time to answer my selfishness.

[The Potty 1]

You can see what mods you have by looking at the WeiDU.log file. Really old mods won't be listed, but anything released in the last 5 years should feature.

That said, unless you have improved anvil or sword coast strategems installed, you can play just about anything. I suggest soloing a fighter/thief or Kensai 7>thief, because I like backstabbing a lot. Max points in katanas, and ask in the spoilers forum if there are any nice katanas in the game

[Tiglath-Pileser]

Fighter/thief is also one of my favourite classes. It gets insanely powerful in mid-late game in BG2. Cloak of non-detection + boots of speed = ultimate strike, run and hide tactic. Really good for insta-chunking enemy spellcasters and their divination spells can't do anything thanks to the cloak.

Other class that is growing on me recently is cleric/mage, played solo. I really learned a lot about proper use of magic playing him. With so many different spells at your disposal there is no challenge he cannot overcome and most enemies can't even touch him thanks to his buffs. Incredibly fun to play.

[Krazy Solo]

I recently returned to BG2 as well a year ago. Still haven't completed a single character run as of today. It is more of a perfectionist problem than a game problem.

What you should play will ultimate be based on preferences. Since you are returning after a few years of not playing I would suggest trying a single class character that can fill multiple roles in a group. Those classes or kits are Stalker (ranger kit), Swashbuckler (thief kit), Blade (bard kit).

Stalker - Essentially a Fighter/Thief hybrid. Stalkers gain the Backstabbing ability of a thief at a lower multiplier. They recieve all the features of a Ranger with only at a disadvantage of losing out on heavier armor. They are more focus on being a fighter than thief. Ideal class for those who want to be efficient combat fighters while also having the ability to kill things from the shadows.

Swashbuckler - another Fighter/Thief hybrid. Except this class focus more on being a thief with fighter prowess. They lost the ability to backstab to be more efficient as a melee fighter. Ideal for those who want to be thief butt dislike the hassle of hiding to backstabb.

Blade - I know you don't want to play a bard, but I had to mentiont his kit. It is essential a Fighter/Mage hybrid. Blades have two abilities that are unique. One being offensive spin essentially combining the kensai kai ability with the berserkers enrage damage bonus in one skill with haste. So basically you character can buzzsaw through weaker monsters fairly quick. They also recieve defensive spin which pretty much max out your AC while rooting you in place for the duration. Blades are extremely verstitale class, even though they are far more advance class in the game. Top it all off they get Arcane spells up to lvl 6.

Essential in the end the choice is yours. If i had to ultimately choose one to of the three to play i would concider the Stalker. Very underappreciated kit since everyone raves about the Kensai Thief dual class.

[Son of Imoen]

Luckily your question is what reasons we have for playing our favourite class, as I always find it hard to tell other people what would be a good class for them. For me, my most favourite classes are the fighter/mage and the Blade, both of which fit my favourite theme of 'Spellblade'. A Spellblade, in my definition, is a sword-wielding character, that can sling spells as well at an enemy. But in practice, as he's less sturdy than a single-classed warrior, uses a lot of his spells to buff himself.

My most favourite of those two is the Blade, as he has 2 advantages over a fighter-mage: his caster-level is a lot higher than a multi-class fighter or even a single-class mage, so though he has not too many spell slots, I always reserve some for Fireball (or at higher levels, other x damage/level spells as the Fireball-spell is capped) as well as Chromatic Orb, with the 'Add Save Penalties for Spells Cast by High-Level Casters'-tweak from the G3 Tweakpack, as the high caster level of the Blade make these spells much more powerful.

Another thing I like about Blade's is the offensive spin, causing max damage each hit while it lasts and sometimes, if there's a lot of enemies, a Weapon Display to make enemies run in fear so my party can target the ones who made their save while the other enemies run around doing nothing.

In short: it's the versatility of the Blade I like. As a final note: I don't use Pickpocket much, but it gives me a good reason to have my thief disregard the pickpocket skill in total and thus spend more on the other skills.

[morbidest2]

My favorite PC is an elven or half-elf Swashbuckler, because
*I like to have my PC lead from the front and be able to do his own trap detecting without wasting a slot on a thief. And if you use the lvl 1 NPC mod, you are free to set up Imoen and Nalia as pure mages, or sorcs, and have a slightly stronger Arcane side to your party.
*it's much more of a challenge staying alive early in the game than using a dwarf or half-orc fighter or R/C, but by the end of ToB you can have AC=-24 and stand toe-to-toe with anyone.
*With the rapid promotion of the Thief table, your PC will rapidly reach 100 in all 7 thief skills, which is an advantage over an F/T in a large party. And once you have enough XPs for HLAs, you in essence have a F/T/M who can burn up all those blue scrolls you've been doting around for far too long.
*I think going invis and backstabbing is a slow and awkward way of playing, and of course a Swashie can't backstab.

[ArchDragonDranovis]

Thanks for the help. I'm thinking of playing a Kensai -> Thief now. Though Stalker is a close second. I guess my first two runs are decided!

[Luminus]

Hmm, a bit late to it, I guess but I would recommend making a Paladin. Why?

Access to all weapons and armor.

Better saves than the simple Fighter.

Detect Evil aka "I know who the bad guy is".

Cleric spells, though you would be too low level to get them in BG1, they are very useful in BG2 and especially Throne of Bhaal, since the best ones are self-only.

Turn Undead. More useful in BG2 and ToB. I was walking through a room full of undead and they were just exploding automatically, after a point.

High Charisma. Being the party's face is awesome, plus all the discounts you get at shops.

Grand Mastery in weapons is not attainable in BG1 and doesn't really matter in BG2.

Paladins get one (or two) Paladin-only weapons which are awesome. One is maybe the most powerful weapon in the game.

It's just more heroic and survivable than the Kensai or Stalker, in my opinion. Both the Kensai/Thief and Stalker are glass-cannons. High damage, crappy defense.

Last but not least, the Cavalier gives you even more resistances and immunities than the vanilla Paladin. The Undead Hunter is average, in my opinion and the Inquisitor is better left to the experienced players. That Dispel Magic they get, is a double-edged sword and could destroy your party's defenses by accident.

Modifié par Luminus, 12 juin 2012 - 03:28 .

[morbidest2]

The cavalier kit imported to BG1 has two big disadvantaes and some minor ones
1-Unless you have a lot of patience or are using Frabjous' Autoroller, you are likely to start off with a total roll of 86 or worse. You have to waste at least 30 points on Charisma and Wisdom, leaving you with 56 to spread around S,D,C and I. Presumably you will want 18/xx in Strength, leaving only 38 for Dex, Con and Intel. Assuming you don't want to have a PC who has taken as many head blows as Minsc, that steers you towards having a fighter who is awkward and clumsy and not too robust. Further, since the whole point of the exercise is mastery with a 2 handed sword, you bang up against the quasi-clerical restriction of only being able to alot 2 skill points each to 2HS and 2H weapon style. What the cavalier really needs is a horse and a lance, but they don't exist in the BG saga. Of course there are Mods that can help with that, but there is also a Mod to make Mazzy a non-human Paladin wielding a 2HS bigger than she is, which IMHO is a lot more fun.
2-The Cav can't use missile weapons (unless he unpaladinly takes advantage of the game bug involving axes and hammers, but how LG is that?), but they are powerful in BG1.

Finally, from a role playing standpoint, doesn't sincerely being LG want to make you puke? To me it's almost as bad as working for Bodhi and wandering around the Graveyard vainly trying to figure out who these very pale friends of hers - with the very pointy teeth - are, without the notion of Vampire! crossing your mind. Again, too many blows to the head.
It is fun turning Undead, but it's even more fun to have Viconia converting them into allies.

[Krazy Solo]

Luminus wrote....

It's just more heroic and survivable than the Kensai or Stalker, in my opinion. Both the Kensai/Thief and Stalker are glass-cannons. High damage, crappy defense.

Stalker are far from being class cannons.  They get all the ranger spells plus minor spell deflection.  Sure they are no tank, but they are far from being glass cannons.  They lack the pure damage from backstabs, but make up for it being able to hit just about anything they fight.  This is just another one of those misconceptions that anything that aint in plate armor is frail, which is bogus assumption.

[Pipboy3billion]

I want to second the vote for Paladin. I'm playing through BG1 as a Cav (EasyTutu), and having a good time. Having played the game before, a Cav's inability to use missile weapons actually makes the game a little more interesting again. Why? Bows own in BG1, but due to my party setup, I only have one archer. Charname is a Cav, Minsc is dual wielding (EasyTutu), Jah is backing up with staves, Khalid is my archer, and Imoen and Dynaheir are maging it up. I actually have three with slings, and only one with a bow. It forces you to rethink your strategy a little.

Unless you have a lot of patience or are using Frabjous' Autoroller, you are likely to start off with a total roll of 86 or worse. You have to waste at least 30 points on Charisma and Wisdom, leaving you with 56 to spread around S,D,C and I. Presumably you will want 18/xx in Strength, leaving only 38 for Dex, Con and Intel.

Not true. The game rolls your stats and then adjusts up for class. That's why it's so easy to get good stats with a Ranger. I actually rolled over 100 points with my Cav, and I did it in less than a minute (which is about as much patience as I have for rolling). I ended up just ditching the extra points above what I wanted for the character. And, I thought I would hate playing LG, but I'm finding it makes the game a little more interesting as well. A child of Bhaal choosing to be a Paladin?

On another note, if I liked multi-classes, I probably would have gone with a fighter/thief, too. Frontline capable, traps, backstabbing, and even eventually "spellcasting" with UAI, those guys are probably the most versatile characters in the game.