I'm going to give a few examples of what may or may not be kill steals. I want your guys opinions on what is and what is not.
1.) I see a Vorcha shooting an Assault Trooper. He gets him to half health before he has to reload. The Trooper starts shooting at the Vorcha, so I finish him off.
2.) An AA is trying to set off a Biotic Explosion on a Marauder. The Maruders shields are down, but it's health is full. The AA hits them with Warp, but their throw gets dodged. I finish the Maruder off.
3.) Two Adepts are beating the crap out of an Atlas. I'm helping with my sniper. I take the last bars of health off and get credit for the kill.
4.) Two Guardians are harrasing a Soldier. He's holding his own though. I sneak behind the Gurdians and pop them both quickly.
What are your guys thoughts?
So, what's a kill steal?
Débuté par
Guest_The Mad Hanar_*
, juin 08 2012 04:54
#1
Guest_The Mad Hanar_*
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 04:54
Guest_The Mad Hanar_*
#2
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 04:57
1) is fine... the vorcha didn't use the chance to melee (if it was at long range i'd probably call it a kill-steal)
2) Kill steal, unless there was NOBODY around the marauder.
3) Not a kill steal... for using melee they were being a little silly.
4) No.
2) Kill steal, unless there was NOBODY around the marauder.
3) Not a kill steal... for using melee they were being a little silly.
4) No.
#3
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 04:57
no steal there imo.
#4
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 04:58
it's a poor excuse for a poor performance in this game.
#5
Guest_The Mad Hanar_*
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 04:59
Guest_The Mad Hanar_*
Biotic_Warlock wrote...
3) Not a kill steal... for using melee they were being a little silly.
By "beat the crap out them" I mean hitting him with a lot of Biotic Explosions.
#6
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 05:04
Oh yeah, kill steals are a big problem in a co-op game.
Should I report all the engineers who screw my biotic explosions when I use warp on an enemy?
I'ts fine when there's only one engineer, I can still use two throws, but when there's three engineers using drain/ol on my warpedtarget, it sucks. And they always wait until the target is warped.
Should I report all the engineers who screw my biotic explosions when I use warp on an enemy?
I'ts fine when there's only one engineer, I can still use two throws, but when there's three engineers using drain/ol on my warpedtarget, it sucks. And they always wait until the target is warped.
#7
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 05:06
I don't understand people even discussing a 'kill steal'. You work together, you have to finish the enemies as quickly as possible and you all get the same score. There is no such thing as a 'kill steal'. It's called 'teamwork'. If people don't understand the principle of this game they should play CoD or do a solo run.
#8
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 05:08
There are no kill steals in ME3 multiplayer, it is a co-op game.
#9
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 05:09
1. might be a kill steal, but the vorcha should have been close enough to melee if they needed the kill
2. might be a kill steal depending on where the rest of the team is, and if a bioplosion would have killed multiple enemies. make that might be bad teamwork
3. not a kill steal, you were helping the whole time
4. not a kill steal, that's helping a teammate out
2. might be a kill steal depending on where the rest of the team is, and if a bioplosion would have killed multiple enemies. make that might be bad teamwork
3. not a kill steal, you were helping the whole time
4. not a kill steal, that's helping a teammate out
Modifié par Mahrac, 08 juin 2012 - 05:10 .
#10
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 05:09
Aslong as it's dead it doesn't really matter. Best example in my case: stasis + random infiltrator headshot = no more phantom
#11
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 05:09
Now I suppose everyone is going to complain about kill stealing and all the wah wah wah that goes with it. If it's not nerfing or farming... now it's kill stealing! I thought this was a team game. You get the same credits no matter who gets the kill. XP & N7 rank don't really matter in this game and I think the point that BioWare was trying to get across in MP is to just have fun.
Here's a question... How come nobody seems to complain about your team stealing your kill in the single player?
Here's a question... How come nobody seems to complain about your team stealing your kill in the single player?
#12
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 05:10
This.ericjdev wrote...
There are no kill steals in ME3 multiplayer, it is a co-op game.
#13
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 05:11
No Such thing... kill...steal..??? in co-op
#14
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 05:19
Complaining about a kill steal in ME3 Co-op is like someone complaining about a kill steal in an indoor instance in WoW (or any other mmo for that matter).
#15
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 05:25
None of those are kill steals. We shouldn't even have to use that term in a coop game I swear that is ridiculous. Unless you are intentionally tailing someone shooting everything they do intentionally, killing other people's targets when you see them isn't kill stealing. That's stupid.
#16
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 05:26
Kill everything that isn't your team-mate is how I roll.
#17
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 05:38
There's no such thing as a kill steal in this game. There just isn't. All of your scenarios are perfectly within the terms of the game. There is only one fundamental metric in multiplayer: Is everything dead?
#18
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 05:40
A kill steal is the fallowing:
1) Shooting that enemy a krogan was about to melee kill
2) Killing a vorchas target
3) You kill the biotic explosion primed target
4) Shooting that enemy with 1 health bar over the enemy flanking your teammate that was full health just so you can increase your epeen in game
1) Shooting that enemy a krogan was about to melee kill
2) Killing a vorchas target
3) You kill the biotic explosion primed target
4) Shooting that enemy with 1 health bar over the enemy flanking your teammate that was full health just so you can increase your epeen in game
Modifié par GGW KillerTiger, 08 juin 2012 - 05:42 .
#19
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 05:43
Killing an enemy without first asking my permission, via microphone, is kill stealing.
#20
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 05:43
Since score doesn't matter, kill stealing doesn't really exist in this game.
Modifié par Enhanced, 08 juin 2012 - 05:43 .
#21
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 05:46
unless your a vorcha, why do we worry about kill stealing?
firstly the your score is based on damage done, and on gold, a 'kill steal' could be actually be saving someone's life.
firstly the your score is based on damage done, and on gold, a 'kill steal' could be actually be saving someone's life.
#22
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 05:47
1) is fine, he should have heavy melle him. if he was lunging to do an HM and you took it mid air thats kinda crappy though lol
2 is a kill steal if there is an enemy next to the maurader that could have been damaged by a BE. also the throw cooldown is almost instant. he would have hit him right after the dogde
3 only a steal if your waiting for 1 bar left before you take the kill shot. if you just shooting at every chance you get and you land the kill shot its not a steal
4 perfectly fine. always take any opportunity to get a guardian from behind.
But kill stealing isn't a big deal in multiplayer unless you keep killing warped targets purposly for kills and they cna't set off a BE. other then that everything is fair game
2 is a kill steal if there is an enemy next to the maurader that could have been damaged by a BE. also the throw cooldown is almost instant. he would have hit him right after the dogde
3 only a steal if your waiting for 1 bar left before you take the kill shot. if you just shooting at every chance you get and you land the kill shot its not a steal
4 perfectly fine. always take any opportunity to get a guardian from behind.
But kill stealing isn't a big deal in multiplayer unless you keep killing warped targets purposly for kills and they cna't set off a BE. other then that everything is fair game
#23
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 05:49
Ah yes, "Kill steals". Finishing off the enemy allegedly taking XP from your teammate. Ah, we have dismissed that claim.
#24
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 05:50
Its a team game. Do you think somewhere there is a Navy SEAL ****ing about the other guy getting the headshot in on Bin Laden? No.
#25
Posté 08 juin 2012 - 05:50
meh. i might inadvertently "steal" a kill on every wave. not to pad score or any of that bs, but because it is the enemy and it is up.
by the same token i also get a kill "stolen" on pretty much every wave. i am not going to get upset if someone blasts a husk that is attempting to dry hump me or finish off a mob my reave/grenade combo has done 90% of the work towards.
winning > personal stats.
and the quicker the win, the less in-game consumables used, the better.
by the same token i also get a kill "stolen" on pretty much every wave. i am not going to get upset if someone blasts a husk that is attempting to dry hump me or finish off a mob my reave/grenade combo has done 90% of the work towards.
winning > personal stats.
and the quicker the win, the less in-game consumables used, the better.





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