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[stevej713]

<- Here's my mage. If you couldn't tell, he doesn't like you.

[blackframe]

Mages tend to be the ones who are totally nuts in RPGs.

[RV0LVr]

blackframe wrote...

Mages tend to be the ones who are totally nuts in RPGs.

you are a living proof perhaps?

[Tyrax Lightning]

blackframe wrote...

Mages tend to be the ones who are totally nuts in RPGs.

There's nothing wrong with that! Nuts can be fun!

[M_arc]

We mages must reclaim our former power, to hell with the aristocracy!

[Whist Darkblade]

whats wrong with a little "friendly" competition. A little flaming is okay, besides I could allways and come back and say that my Mother is dead (she isnt) but it is just the point.



Some may have felt that Marionetten comment was out of place, sure it might have crossed the line. but also bear in mind you need space to cast a spell, the whole wand waving, staff twirling bit, while a dagger hidden up the sleave.......I think you can get the picture



btw Arcane Conven vs Rouges Den as of 9:35 Monday morning October 19, 2009



The Conven has 10 mages, while the Den has 17 rouges. Just from the numbers it would be obvious that unless the mages could launch a fireball from above 3 miles away, then the rogues would survive a attack/raid



In all actuality the rogues dont need magic, and will rogues prefer to avoid hand-to-hand combat, we are still proficient with it, while the mages can just whack people with their staffs.







JOIN US!!!!!!!!!!! ---------------Rogue's Den

[Seagloom]

The Arcane Coven has fewer members than the Rogue's Den because mages are *special*. We are part of an esteemed and *elite* few. Only gifted individuals born with the spark of magic can join, and of those only the intelligent and strong willed among us thrive. Rogues are the salt of the earth. Anyone that can cut a purse string and hold a knife properly can be a rogue. How much skill does that take? Even I can stab something in the back with a knife, if I were so inclined.



Fact is, mages are superior to everyone else. We're untouchable... invincible. Sneaking up on us is meaningless when we're warded against common forms of attack, and woe betide any thief foolish enough to sneak into our lairs where minions and deadly glyphs a'plenty await.



((This was written with tongue firmly in cheek.))

[Fester Pot]

Supporting the wild and crazy side of magic!

FP!

Modifié par Fester Pot, 19 octobre 2009 - 02:26 .

[HeathenKing]

Pity on the fighters who haven't the intelligence or mental capacity to harness the powers of the fade, and must resort to primitive weaponry of steel and iron. =P



Honestly, what's the point of playing a fantasy game without the ability to preform magic?

[X2-Elijah]

Mages need power to dominate the lesser beings. Walkers of both realms, arise!

[Errel]

Mages, join the DA war games in the general forums!

The Circle of Magi must prevail!

[Haussier]

blackframe wrote...

Mages tend to be the ones who are totally nuts in RPGs.

Who? What? I suppose thats because crazy people who are in control of the power to alter reality tend to be more interesting than crazy people in control of pointy sticks. They also for some unkown reason tend not to be as evil heheh. 

[Whist Darkblade]

Seagloom wrote...

The Arcane Coven has fewer members than the Rogue's Den because mages are *special*. We are part of an esteemed and *elite* few. Only gifted individuals born with the spark of magic can join, and of those only the intelligent and strong willed among us thrive. Rogues are the salt of the earth. Anyone that can cut a purse string and hold a knife properly can be a rogue. How much skill does that take? Even I can stab something in the back with a knife, if I were so inclined.

Fact is, mages are superior to everyone else. We're untouchable... invincible. Sneaking up on us is meaningless when we're warded against common forms of attack, and woe betide any thief foolish enough to sneak into our lairs where minions and deadly glyphs a'plenty await.

((This was written with tongue firmly in cheek.))

Ahhh, so thats what this comes down to.....you mages think you're better than the rest of us because we cant do magic. Well id like to introduce you to my little friend. It is called enchanted dragonbone arrows.


It seems like your shields, glyphs and minions wont help you very much

[Whist Darkblade]

HeathenKing wrote...

Pity on the fighters who haven't the intelligence or mental capacity to harness the powers of the fade, and must resort to primitive weaponry of steel and iron. =P

Honestly, what's the point of playing a fantasy game without the ability to preform magic?

pity on those who have to resort to other powers to solve problems for them, and cant kill with their own power

Nothing, and i do mean nothing can replace the deeply satisfying "thunk" as your broadhead arrow buries itself into the head of a darkspawn easily dropping it before you can cast your spell

[Haussier]

Whist Darkblade wrote...

HeathenKing wrote...

Pity on the fighters who haven't the intelligence or mental capacity to harness the powers of the fade, and must resort to primitive weaponry of steel and iron. =P

Honestly, what's the point of playing a fantasy game without the ability to preform magic?

pity on those who have to resort to other powers to solve problems for them, and cant kill with their own power

Nothing, and i do mean nothing can replace the deeply satisfying "thunk" as your broadhead arrow buries itself into the head of a darkspawn easily dropping it before you can cast your spell

Well techinically bows and arrows are tools.. not quite your "own" power.. now if we could strangle one of the darkspawn with our own bare hands.. now that would be our own power heh.

[HeathenKing]

Whist Darkblade wrote...
pity on those who have to resort to other powers to solve problems for them, and cant kill with their own power

Nothing, and i do mean nothing can replace the deeply satisfying "thunk" as your broadhead arrow buries itself into the head of a darkspawn easily dropping it before you can cast your spell

At least we may regenerate our mana. Once you've run out of arrows, truly how useful are you?
And surely you can't be comparing a 'thunk' sound to the satisfaction of burning your foes alive by the dozen by your will alone? We need not hide behind clunky armor, nor must we extend our reach to our enemies with man-made weaponry. We need only our minds.

[Seagloom]

Whist Darkblade wrote...

Ahhh, so thats what this comes down to.....you mages think you're better than the rest of us because we cant do magic. Well id like to introduce you to my little friend. It is called enchanted dragonbone arrows.

It seems like your shields, glyphs and minions wont help you very much

Firstly my delusional friend, we do not *think* ourselves superior to those incapable of harnessing magic. We *know* this to be true. The Chantry's fear and well hidden envy of the common people is proof enough of that.

As for your arrows, they do indeed hurt. But perhaps you have forgotten our healing capabilities? Plink away at us with those toys as long as you wish. We will recover from every blow none the worse for wear.

Modifié par Seagloom, 19 octobre 2009 - 03:40 .

[Cayenne Firepepper]

Mage = awesome power

Modifié par Cayenne Firepepper, 19 octobre 2009 - 04:44 .

[Tyrax Lightning]

Warriors rule! With our armor, an Ogre can body slam us, & we can get up & say 'Ha! We don't fear modest damage!' & keep on fighting! With our might, wars are won! With our bravery, your BATHROBES for staying power are kept safe, & I assure you, we don't tank for your kind so you can stink up the air with the stench of arrogance. If you think you can do without our dedication to hard work & fortitude, feel free to try & see how long you last, a handful of mages vs an entire battalion of Darkspawn that can easily field far more numbers than the Circle of Magi, & see how long your small numbers stay 'special' after the Darkspawn turn small numbers into extinction!

Don't underestimate the power of the shadows either! You won't see us coming, & never know when we will strike. It's folly not to beware what you can't see... Wards, schmoards! You can't hug them forever, unless you fear us so much that you forsake your duties, your self maintenance, even your sleep, to hug your precious wards for protection & try to keep vigilant!  If you can't make yourselves useful to your side, you're every bit as neutralized as if you were already slain. You forget, that rogues are flexible in their options as much as in their agility. Do you think your glowie-eyed Templar watchdogs wanna see you hiding under your bed, instead of contributing to your workload? A mage that's not bein useful is a mage that, perhaps, might not be worth keeping around... So they'll waste ya. Then us rogues defeated you without laying a finger on you!

Warriors are more than the skulls under their helms, & rogues are more than wise enough to know full well the wisdom of the story of the One-Trick Pony. Magic is cool, but arrogance is not. If you think you're better than everyone, I got news for ya. That arrogance isn't your friend. It's a rogue saboteur of the mind sabotaging your guard & vigilance, opening us rogues a window of opportunity to strike a vunerability you didn't even notice had appeared where you thought you were still strong...

[Whist Darkblade]

Haussier wrote...

Whist Darkblade wrote...

HeathenKing wrote...

Pity on the fighters who haven't the intelligence or mental capacity to harness the powers of the fade, and must resort to primitive weaponry of steel and iron. =P

Honestly, what's the point of playing a fantasy game without the ability to preform magic?

pity on those who have to resort to other powers to solve problems for them, and cant kill with their own power

Nothing, and i do mean nothing can replace the deeply satisfying "thunk" as your broadhead arrow buries itself into the head of a darkspawn easily dropping it before you can cast your spell

Well techinically bows and arrows are tools.. not quite your "own" power.. now if we could strangle one of the darkspawn with our own bare hands.. now that would be our own power heh.

WOW! A mage with some common sense, lol. JK I think your idea is genius, and brings up a serious issue. What happens if your mage runs out of mana, your tank has tanked his/her max, and now your rogue/archer is out of "ammo"?

In the game what would happen? You either run back to camp or something, or revert to an older save file quickly before you see the horde make mince meat out of your PC and NPC team??----------This is a serious question, despite the mage vs rogue banter

HeathenKing wrote...

Whist Darkblade wrote...
pity on those who have to resort to other powers to solve problems for them, and cant kill with their own power

Nothing, and i do mean nothing can replace the deeply satisfying "thunk" as your broadhead arrow buries itself into the head of a darkspawn easily dropping it before you can cast your spell

At least we may regenerate our mana. Once you've run out of arrows, truly how useful are you?
And surely you can't be comparing a 'thunk' sound to the satisfaction of burning your foes alive by the dozen by your will alone? We need not hide behind clunky armor, nor must we extend our reach to our enemies with man-made weaponry. We need only our minds.

Wow, the rogues really get no respect around here. It makes one seem that your Mage-like view on rogues, is like the dirt on your boot heel you dont even expend the energy to wipe off???

I feel a very good and friendly competition arising from all of this. I for one would be willing to do some PvP!!!! Obviously there is no possibility for that yet, but one can hope?


So, how to resolve this conflict, and where to draw the lines. The warrior class can decided which side to take, but regardless what i say we do, is once the game comes out we start comparing stats, and see how many high-lvls in each respective class there are and go from there. I could write a program in C++ to do simulations of character battles, if we have access to any code from DA, specifically that pertaining to battles.

I love competition, and have gained many friends over the years by competing against one-another. Its important to remember though that this is all friendly, and should remain so. Its just interesting that a Mage vs. Ranger/rogue rivalry always or most of the time develops in fantasy games. This is what makes this forum so great!

Rogues still all the way!!!!!
------------>Oh and if we did run out of arrows, we would start strangling you hypo critic mages with our bowstrings

[blackframe]

Haussier wrote...

blackframe wrote...

Mages tend to be the ones who are totally nuts in RPGs.

Who? What? I suppose thats because crazy people who are in control of the power to alter reality tend to be more interesting than crazy people in control of pointy sticks. They also for some unkown reason tend not to be as evil heheh. 

It's mostly because the public (or in this case the hero who visits the nuts mage) may or may not see the mage's intention evil.

For example, if  a mage turned himself into a lich(I don't know whether there is an equivalent of a lich in DA) in order research a way to create and control huge armies of dragons in order to fight the darkspawn, most people would paint him as evil because he/she's a lich(ignoring the fact that dragons would ravage the countryside for food...). Whether the mage is nuts or not really depends upon the story but usually you'll get a crazy one in order to spice up the conversation(you don't want a mage who turns you into ash just because you chose the wrong conversation...).

[Tyrax Lightning]

blackframe wrote...

Haussier wrote...

blackframe wrote...

Mages tend to be the ones who are totally nuts in RPGs.

Who? What? I suppose thats because crazy people who are in control of the power to alter reality tend to be more interesting than crazy people in control of pointy sticks. They also for some unkown reason tend not to be as evil heheh. 

It's mostly because the public (or in this case the hero who visits the nuts mage) may or may not see the mage's intention evil.

For example, if  a mage turned himself into a lich(I don't know whether there is an equivalent of a lich in DA) in order research a way to create and control huge armies of dragons in order to fight the darkspawn, most people would paint him as evil because he/she's a lich(ignoring the fact that dragons would ravage the countryside for food...). Whether the mage is nuts or not really depends upon the story but usually you'll get a crazy one in order to spice up the conversation(you don't want a mage who turns you into ash just because you chose the wrong conversation...).

True enough indeed!  Perception can be a bugger to master.

[sin_bad]

I always chose mage, because at highest level he can do miracles. Fire storm or whatever. I don't care if the beginning is more difficult (less hp, armor etc...). High level mage recompenses everything.

[Dr. Explosion]

------------>Oh and if we did run out of arrows, we would start strangling you hypo critic mages with our bowstrings

oh noes!!! invisible bowstrings!

and btw, this mage has enough sense to realize the value of rogues; We are the brains and firepower, you are the eyes and ears, (and other body parts if the need arises), and together we could be invincible! We cannot be vinced! (i've always wanted to say that!)

anyway, + = awesome

[Eisir]

I'm a pissed off elf mage