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#101
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Nanuzsh wrote...

Liara hints that she may be pregnant if you were loyal to her, and talked about kids in Lotsb.


ONLY then does Liara mentions little blue children.

Liara:' I don't know what to say.'


Liara:'All those little blue children will be dissappointed that I didn't have a speech'

Shepard:' We'll make up a good story for them'

This only happens if you.

-Romanced Liara in ME1.
-Loyal to her in ME2.
-Did LOTSB and talked about having kids.


So yes Liara can get pregnant.

Don't think this suggests Liara is actually Shadow Brokering for two as she could as easily be speaking hypothetically there and responding to what Shepard had just said to her. 'Children'? As in more than one? That sounds like someone talking about a future they hope for, especially with everything else that's going on. And - sorry to get biological about this - two breasts suggests one or occasionally two babies at a time as the norm with any more being very rare. Unless Asari are like Tasmanian Devils which would be truly horrifying, and if you don't know what I mean and like Liara and Asari then probably best you don't look it up.

But that conversation does suggest that it's a possible future if they win against the reapers, even though the codex says that the matron stage is around 350 unless entered early due to lots of melding. Lots and lots of melding for a 109 year old I imagine, though maybe Asari conception is a bit like human and the age for motherhood is more a societal norm than a physiological thing. If you have a thousand years or so I guess most people would want to go a little wild for a century or two after leaving home, much like many of us do in our late teens and early twenties, and not have kids through choice. Our studious and serious Dr T'Soni has never really seemed the wild child type and seemed pretty enamoured with Shep from almost the minute she stepped on board the Normandy so she could plausibly choose matronhood earlier than most Asari, especially since Shep wouldn't live long enough for Liara to get to the normal age.

Like I said earlier, you can headcanon it either way you want to. Seems to me likely that she isn't pregnant but that it's certainly an option for her and Shep if they both live. Which mine do because Arrival and everything after that doesn't happen, and Shepard can be told to pick up some kiddie wallpaper on the way back to Hagalaz while they work out which room to use as a nursery.

#102
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Pretty much everything PsiFive said.

I think anyone who took Liara's dialogue as indication that she is pregnant, is really reading too much into things. Also considering that the Asari can apparently control when they get pregnant, why would Liara choose to do so when she (and her unborn child) could be killed at any moment? That makes little sense.

If Liara gets pregnant at all it is long after the end credits for ME3.

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ME3? Nope, sorry, no idea what you mean. What is this ME3 of which you speak? ;-)

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No,
but this is called obsession! But in a possible future of Mass Effect you can not leave in peace Shepard? He ended the threat of the Sovereign, defeated the collectors, he has united the galaxy and fought the final battle for Earth.
He will have the right to rest?
A huge galaxy to haven't someone who can save him that is not Shepard or he is directly related to Shepard?
Then why not consider the fourth-degree grand-nephew's cousin's sister's Shepard?

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Zujilin wrote...

No,
but this is called obsession! But in a possible future of Mass Effect you can not leave in peace Shepard? He ended the threat of the Sovereign, defeated the collectors, he has united the galaxy and fought the final battle for Earth.
He will have the right to rest?
A huge galaxy to haven't someone who can save him that is not Shepard or he is directly related to Shepard?
Then why not consider the fourth-degree grand-nephew's cousin's sister's Shepard?


Something like that is in Star Wars and it works.
ME can go that way, I have no problem with it.

#106
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No... Although if there would ever be an MMO and I could play an Asari, I promised myself to call her Laya Shepard! :whistle:

Modifié par Alex_Dur4and, 10 juin 2012 - 07:23 .


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GreenFlag wrote...

Zujilin wrote...

No,
but this is called obsession! But in a possible future of Mass Effect you can not leave in peace Shepard? He ended the threat of the Sovereign, defeated the collectors, he has united the galaxy and fought the final battle for Earth.
He will have the right to rest?
A huge galaxy to haven't someone who can save him that is not Shepard or he is directly related to Shepard?
Then why not consider the fourth-degree grand-nephew's cousin's sister's Shepard?


Something like that is in Star Wars and it works.
ME can go that way, I have no problem with it.


In that Star Wars it makes sence, since the biggest heroes and villains are usually force users. The history of the Star Wars galaxy is shaped by the incessant warring betwen the Jedi and the Sith, and the children of Jedi or Sith are also strong in the force.

In Mass Effect hero dynasties would make little sense, as characters don't possess magical powers that are hereditary.

#108
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no. im a femshep x liara guy myself but like mass effect 3's ending it will make every choice u made romance wise not matter. "canon" is what u make it to be.....but with the way bioware is heading.....

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Why not just being able to pick species, like in Skyrim?

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iMesmerise wrote...

Why not just being able to pick species, like in Skyrim?


I'd hate to see a Mass Effect game where the characters were as lifeless as Skyrim.

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@ Han Shot First I was merely referencing the ability to choose a race as in skyrim. That's all.

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GreenFlag wrote...

Zujilin wrote...

No,
but this is called obsession! But in a possible future of Mass Effect you can not leave in peace Shepard? He ended the threat of the Sovereign, defeated the collectors, he has united the galaxy and fought the final battle for Earth.
He will have the right to rest?
A huge galaxy to haven't someone who can save him that is not Shepard or he is directly related to Shepard?
Then why not consider the fourth-degree grand-nephew's cousin's sister's Shepard?


Something like that is in Star Wars and it works.
ME can go that way, I have no problem with it.


Not only in Star Wars had more sense given the inheritance of the Force, and also there is some failure. Take the Star Wars video games dedicated to those who are truly successful? How many products have the quality of Star Wars? Mere commercial works that have stalled in the monotony killed to the obsession of fan to see ever the same things and the same characters to exhaustion, even when they had nothing to say..
The best game generated from star wars? Was KOTOR, did had not luke skywalker, did had not Anakin but it worked very well with a new hero Revan; also new comprimare working ok. Same fate for KOTOR 2.
If star wars over time has lost its magic it's because Lucas capture to $ has stopped doing what he liked to start doing what his fans more numerous wanted!

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I would not want to play a game as Liara's child. We get enough of the "blue babies" jokes on here as it is.

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Il Divo wrote...

We get enough of the "blue babies" jokes on here as it is.

And for personal reasons I'd add that they're not all that funny.

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PsiFive wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

We get enough of the "blue babies" jokes on here as it is.

And for personal reasons I'd add that they're not all that funny.


I find it to be pretty damn sad actually.

If there are any blue babies mentioned in the EC I will rage. I romanced Liara once, and blue babies are not happening at all. Posted Image

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I would have to agree with the majority of this thread and say No to Liara's kid.

While Shepard's influence on the ME world is coming to an end once all DLC is made and EC is released etc etc, there are plenty of events in past ME that would make great games. So many other races to develop. not to mention current ME of worlds to recreate. I can see many issues with pirates raiding war torn worlds or even factioned worlds fighting for previously owed worlds.

But no spawn of Shepard spin offs. Too many variants that would have to play in to that. Mention Shepard in historical vids or what not, but let his lineage rest.

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Nope

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Hotalium wrote...

I would have to agree with the majority of this thread and say No to Liara's kid.

While Shepard's influence on the ME world is coming to an end once all DLC is made and EC is released etc etc, there are plenty of events in past ME that would make great games. So many other races to develop. not to mention current ME of worlds to recreate. I can see many issues with pirates raiding war torn worlds or even factioned worlds fighting for previously owed worlds.

But no spawn of Shepard spin offs. Too many variants that would have to play in to that. Mention Shepard in historical vids or what not, but let his lineage rest.


I agree

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Il Divo wrote...

I would not want to play a game as Liara's child. We get enough of the "blue babies" jokes on here as it is.


If ME4 will be in 30-100 years after defeated the Reapers, I prefer to choice, if you have LI with Liara, to play as her daughter or have her as squadmate. (Adult Asari, not a kid)
Otherwise, you will play as a new character (or Shepard, who knows), what you choose in future ME.

this is my idea

Modifié par GreenFlag, 12 juin 2012 - 11:16 .


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LoL No.

#121
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GreenFlag wrote...

If ME4 will be in 30-100 years after defeated the Reapers, I prefer to choice, if you have LI with Liara, to play as her daughter or have her as squadmate. (Adult Asari, not a kid)
Otherwise, you will play as a new character (or Shepard, who knows), what you choose in future ME.

this is my idea


And if Bioware were to design ME4 to take into account every LI's child, you're going to have quite a few voice-actors flying around, more than is typical. I'd rather Bioware did not throw around that many resources to fan service.

Modifié par Il Divo, 12 juin 2012 - 11:28 .


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Il Divo wrote...

GreenFlag wrote...

If ME4 will be in 30-100 years after defeated the Reapers, I prefer to choice, if you have LI with Liara, to play as her daughter or have her as squadmate. (Adult Asari, not a kid)
Otherwise, you will play as a new character (or Shepard, who knows), what you choose in future ME.

this is my idea


And if Bioware were to design ME4 to take into account every LI's child, you're going to have quite a few voice-actors flying around, more than is typical. I'd rather Bioware did not throw around that many resources to fan service.


I can say same about renegade option, because 80% people for first gameplay playing as paragon. So make renegade option for only 20% gamers is wasting resources for the game.

(Human female and Asari character can dub the same actor, if you want to save resources)

Modifié par GreenFlag, 12 juin 2012 - 11:43 .


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I just want to play something besides another stupid human for once.

Play a different game series.

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GreenFlag wrote...

I can say same about renegade option, because 80% people for first gameplay playing as paragon. So make renegade option for only 20% gamers is wasting resources for the game.


If you don't plan on using the renegade options and don't enjoy them, then why would you want them in your games?

(Human female and Asari character can dub the same actor, if you want to save resources)


Or we could just not write an ME4 based on Liara fan service. That would save even more resources.

Modifié par Il Divo, 12 juin 2012 - 12:10 .


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TheButterflyEffect wrote...

A vote for then next hero being Female Shepherd and Liara's kid.


/signed

Liara is the canon romance anyway, despite what people say it's kind of obvious.