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[Dark_Enclave33]

I'm really curious what Bioware is up to about the next dlc..come on just a little something something old be good...

[Brovikk Rasputin]

I don't understand the purpose of this secrecy thing. Just announce the damn DLC and move on with it. Keeping everything a secret and only posting extremely vague tweets will only hurt them in the long run.

[ElitePinecone]

They get maximum press attention at certain times, perhaps, or it could be that they need to prepare marketing materials.

If the DLC wasn't released until March (let's say) and they announced it now, wouldn't a lot of less hard-core players forget that it exists by the time it's launched?

There's a reason behind the timing of nearly everything, I'd think. The marketing team might've made some questionable decisions in the past (hello, Take Earth Back, awesome button, Fight Like a Spartan) but it's not like they blindfold an intern and have them stab wildly at a calendar to decide the announcement or launch dates.

That being said, they've been seemingly working on this for months and months now.

[Ajensis]

ElitePinecone wrote...
(...) it's not like they blindfold an intern and have them stab wildly at a calendar (...)

Thank you for that! It humoured me

But yeah, I can't help feeling a bit excited and curious about this DLC too. And I hope they can reveal just a tiny bit of information soon so we can stop day-dreaming of things that they could never live up to anyway (or content they won't do, like improving the ending). But I'm not too fussed, really. It'll get here when it gets here

[N7 Shadow 90]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

I don't understand the purpose of this secrecy thing. Just announce the damn DLC and move on with it. Keeping everything a secret and only posting extremely vague tweets will only hurt them in the long run.

I know it can be a little annoying, but would you rather you heard nothing at all until they were ready to announce it? If they're not ready to announce it, I think vague Tweets are better than nothing.

[Grubas]

The can't announce anything, because everything might be subject to change.
If the planned release is march, they might infact change a lot of things.

Modifié par Grubas, 15 janvier 2013 - 11:32 .

[Nerevar-as]

N7 Shadow 90 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

I don't understand the purpose of this secrecy thing. Just announce the damn DLC and move on with it. Keeping everything a secret and only posting extremely vague tweets will only hurt them in the long run.

I know it can be a little annoying, but would you rather you heard nothing at all until they were ready to announce it? If they're not ready to announce it, I think vague Tweets are better than nothing.

Nothing would be better actually. This is teasing us pointlessly. Get ready for the angry posts when it turns out to have nothing to do with the ending.

No idea why they do this. Might be something from the marketing department. BW´s is pretty bad from the consumer´s POV, IMHO, which is weird considering it´s targeted at us.

[Grubas]

Yap thats true. Nothing is better then the pre-release developer statements. Better bw stays on its feet this time.

no offence

[N7 Shadow 90]

Bioware have never hinted at the DLC being ending related. They have, however said that they're doing nothing more about the ending. If people get angry about it not being ending related, that isn't Bioware's fault.

[ElitePinecone]

N7 Shadow 90 wrote...

Bioware have never hinted at the DLC being ending related. They have, however said that they're doing nothing more about the ending. If people get angry about it not being ending related, that isn't Bioware's fault.

Exactly. 

Everything tney've said has indicated that ending content is over. If people want to get angry at them for not doing something they've repeatedly said they aren't going to do, that's... well, it's a bit pointless, really. They knew this was coming over half a year ago. 

If conspiracy theorists are upset that their chosen conspiracy (Indoctrination/Puzzle/Llama Theory) isn't actually true, perhaps there's merit in not immediately believing literally anything that fits your desired interpretation. At the very least anger should be directed against the people who dreamt up (and inflamed) conspircies and sold them to an overinvested audience, not at the studio who never intended to implement them in the first place. It's not Bioware's fault that people were credulous enough to believe crazy things in the months after release. 

At any rate, whatever the DLC's theme, I hope it's going to be as impressive as some of ME2's.

[FirstBlood XL]

ElitePinecone wrote...


If conspiracy theorists are upset that their chosen conspiracy (Indoctrination/Puzzle/Llama Theory) isn't actually true, perhaps there's merit in not immediately believing literally anything that fits your desired interpretation. At the very least anger should be directed against the people who dreamt up (and inflamed) conspircies and sold them to an overinvested audience, not at the studio who never intended to implement them in the first place. It's not Bioware's fault that people were credulous enough to believe crazy things in the months after release. 

At any rate, whatever the DLC's theme, I hope it's going to be as impressive as some of ME2's.

I would argue that it IS BW's fault... for creating a pathetically contrived and thematically detached ending that made little to no sense.

It's to the fans' credit that they figured out ways to fill the gaps for the actual 'writers'.

[ElitePinecone]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of the ending, at all (I completely agree that it was thematically estranged from the rest of the series, and nonsensical to boot) - but the flurry of almost desperate speculation post-launch is one of the more bizarre player reactions I've ever seen. Inventing theories and finding evidence to fill the holes is a completely pointless endeavour if the writers never intended for it to be interpreted that way in the first place.

A theory to try to explain the ending has no validity just because fans think it does - particularly when it's patently obvious that it massively overanalyses the tiniest details in pursuit of evidence to support itself. The weight of "evidence" means little or nothing if that's not what the writers intended when making the game. It's almost like delusional fan-fiction on a massive scale, or finding subtext and meaning in something that was only presented at face value.

People can't indulge in a year of conspiracy theories and hoping for, even expecting, a new ending - something Bioware have flatly discouraged for the last six months or so - then turn around and be *angry* with the developers when that never eventuates. If there's no "Shepard wakes up and unicorns" or "puzzle pieces and conventional victory lasers woo" DLC on the way, people who like those theories should ask themselves why they didn't believe the developers the first twenty times they said the endings are over. Constructing a whole master plan involving deceiving fans with a false ending and later revealing a "true" one can only lead to massive disappointment when that doesn't actually happen.

I think the frustrating original ending, the Extended Cut, the fan response to both, media attention and Bioware's confusing. opaque reaction to all of those things has meant the ending is irredeemably shot to pieces - and while that's immensely disappointing, at least when DLC stops the rampant conspiracies might end, too.

(Interestingly, Geoff Keighley said recently that his interview with some Bioware devs about the endings and the fan response to them should be out by the end of January.)

[Grubas]

ElitePinecone wrote...

(Interestingly, Geoff Keighley said recently that his interview with some Bioware devs about the endings and the fan response to them should be out by the end of January.)

The same Geoff Keighley? Mountain dew and Doritos.

Ok guys shut it with the offtopic. Lets pay more attention to twitter. pleasssssse:innocent:?

Modifié par Grubas, 15 janvier 2013 - 10:05 .

[GimmeDaGun]

There's a new post from Chris Priestly about the upcoming dlc:


"When it is ready.

There are a number of things we consider before we talk about upcoming DLC. The most important factor is how close is it to being done. We do not want to start talking about it and then have to delay it for any reason. This would not be good for the game or for the fans. We want to make sure that when we start talking about it, we can (within the bounds of not spoiling it) really talk about it. That is why BioWare usually does not discuss a product until the game team, the marketing team and the PR team all line up and agree that now is the time to talk about it.

And, no, following staffers on Twitter who drop hints about what they are workign on is not "BioWare talking about the game". You're welcome to follow whomever you want on Twitter, but until it comes through our website or official Twitter/Facebook channels, we're not really talking about it.

So, when will that be? No idea. Again, we won't say "We'll talk about it tomorrow, next week, next month, etc" until we know for usre that we can actually meet that goal. When we can talk about it, we will talk about it."


Source: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/15592109&lf=8

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 15 janvier 2013 - 10:07 .

[futurepixels]

I see Chris is taking a cue from CD Projekt RED's Cyberpunk 2077 trailer regarding when they will be talking about the next DLC.

Now only if you guys still made RPGs like they do.

[Iakus]

futurepixels wrote...

I see Chris is taking a cue from CD Projekt RED's Cyberpunk 2077 trailer regarding when they will be talking about the next DLC.

Now only if you guys still made RPGs like they do.

...but easier on the grimdark 

[MrDbow]

But we can still discuss (or speculate) on what Dev's are saying on their Twitter accounts. Thus the creation of the thread (and previous one)...

But do please keep the discussion to twitter (albeit few tweets at the moment) and not make this a place where someone feels the need to take "shots" at the game.

[xsdob]

futurepixels wrote...

I see Chris is taking a cue from CD Projekt RED's Cyberpunk 2077 trailer regarding when they will be talking about the next DLC.

Now only if you guys still made RPGs like they do.

Really? You really had to get a snide ****y comment in there so badly?

Do you feel better now that you got that out of your damn system? Yes? Good.

Because when it's ready is probably the best answer to the question "When will [blank] come out" that I could hope for. I don't care if CDPR did it first with their games, and I don't care if you like their games more, and I certainly do not care about rpg elements talk anymore. This dlc is not, at least hopefully, being rushed. And so it should be pretty good, or if you really didn't like the game it will be good or decent, or if you really hate everything in the game from start to finish, it will be pointless.

Regardless, good to hear such things being said by bioware. Now I just hope the fanbase doesn't hype this up again and than blame bioware when things they never said would happen do not happen.

[RenegadeXV]

xsdob wrote...

futurepixels wrote...

I see Chris is taking a cue from CD Projekt RED's Cyberpunk 2077 trailer regarding when they will be talking about the next DLC.

Now only if you guys still made RPGs like they do.

Really? You really had to get a snide ****y comment in there so badly?

Do you feel better now that you got that out of your damn system? Yes? Good.

Because when it's ready is probably the best answer to the question "When will [blank] come out" that I could hope for. I don't care if CDPR did it first with their games, and I don't care if you like their games more, and I certainly do not care about rpg elements talk anymore. This dlc is not, at least hopefully, being rushed. And so it should be pretty good, or if you really didn't like the game it will be good or decent, or if you really hate everything in the game from start to finish, it will be pointless.

Regardless, good to hear such things being said by bioware. Now I just hope the fanbase doesn't hype this up again and than blame bioware when things they never said would happen do not happen.

It's also worth pointing out that this is the approach BioWare is taking with DA3.

So, no, this has nothing to do with CDPR. <_<

[felipejiraya]

xsdob wrote...

Regardless, good to hear such things being said by bioware. Now I just hope the fanbase doesn't hype this up again and than blame bioware when things they never said would happen do not happen.

Nah, this is totally not happening. 

Modifié par felipejiraya, 15 janvier 2013 - 11:55 .

[FFZero]

xsdob wrote...

Regardless, good to hear such things being said by bioware. Now I just hope the fanbase doesn't hype this up again and than blame bioware when things they never said would happen do not happen.

You must be new here...

[xsdob]

Nope. Just hopelessly holding out for a miracle.

[macrocarl]

felipejiraya wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Regardless, good to hear such things being said by bioware. Now I just hope the fanbase doesn't hype this up again and than blame bioware when things they never said would happen do not happen.

Nah, this is totally not happening. 

 Yeah there's absolutely no evidence of that ever happening on BSN....... ever:P

[dreamgazer]

felipejiraya wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Regardless, good to hear such things being said by bioware. Now I just hope the fanbase doesn't hype this up again and than blame bioware when things they never said would happen do not happen.

Nah, this is totally not happening. 

Nah, nobody would ever do that.  Ever.

*takes the "Welcome Home, Shepard" decorations down*

[Kezzup]

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