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[A_Pissed_Iguana]

ouroboros8642 wrote...

Who says this is the last dlc? There should be at least 2 more on the way. VOs were in studio way back in late October doing voice work. Then in December it was announced that all writers were on deck to pen the next script. How do you do record lines for a dlc that had not been written at the time?

This.

I hate to be the guy who does this, but is there any chance at all they are trolling us and we are about to get super awesome ending DLC like THIS?
(from someone's sig above).

Modifié par A_Pissed_Iguana, 29 janvier 2013 - 11:54 .

[futurepixels]

Ridiculous response aside, this is a good point.

[Liec]

ouroboros8642 wrote...

Who says this is the last dlc? There should be at least 2 more on the way. VOs were in studio way back in late October doing voice work. Then in December it was announced that all writers were on deck to pen the next script. How do you do record lines for a dlc that had not been written at the time?

Just because someone said in December all writers worked on it doesn't mean that they were working on it at that time. They could've finished the script months ago for all we know.

[A_Pissed_Iguana]

futurepixels wrote...

Ridiculous response aside, this is a good point.

If you are referring to me....
You're right, it's totally ridiculous. (when half of the community is thinking it).
I didn't say that I thought it was going to happen or anything, just hoping.

You do realize that a year or so ago there were people saying exactly what you and I just wrote, except about mass effect 1 coming to PS3, right? Look what happened. And with (easily) half of the community still wanting an ending that wasn't blatantly rushed and just plain bad writing, it's really not that ridiculous. Improbable. Yes. But ridiculous?
Next time, try not to be an ass, buddy.

What really gets me is people are starting to come around to the "endings" just out of a lack of alternatives, or will even go so far to say that they were GOOD (which if you have taken even ONE college level english course in your life you would know that they are indeed VERY bad). They accept that, and to still hope (not expect) an ending DLC is outrageous, but they are totally cool with accepting a DLC that involes  "R&R".
Because the whole "R&R" in the middle of an extinction event,THAT wouldn't be ridiculous at all. That wouldn't totally shatter the atmosphere and what little integrity (not of the 'artistic integrity' kind, mind you), that the third game has left. While planets are getting destroyed and members of the galactic community are getting turning into cyborg monsters, it's a great time to go play some cards. Maybe a swim?

Modifié par A_Pissed_Iguana, 30 janvier 2013 - 12:29 .

[futurepixels]

Ridiculous because it's not gonna happen.

[dead_goon]

knaus86 wrote...

didn't one of the writers just tweet that they just broke through some writers block? Am I wrong in thinking the writing and recording should be done by now if they are bug fixing?

That was Patrick Weekes, & he was reasigned to DA3 a week or so ago.

[jakal66]

A_Pissed_Iguana wrote...

futurepixels wrote...

Ridiculous response aside, this is a good point.

If you are referring to me....
You're right, it's totally ridiculous. (when half of the community is thinking it).
I didn't say that I thought it was going to happen or anything, just hoping.

You do realize that a year or so ago there were people saying exactly what you and I just wrote, except about mass effect 1 coming to PS3, right? Look what happened. And with (easily) half of the community still wanting an ending that wasn't blatantly rushed and just plain bad writing, it's really not that ridiculous. Improbable. Yes. But ridiculous?
Next time, try not to be an ass, buddy.

What really gets me is people are starting to come around to the "endings" just out of a lack of alternatives, or will even go so far to say that they were GOOD (which if you have taken even ONE college level english course in your life you would know that they are indeed VERY bad). They accept that, and to still hope (not expect) an ending DLC is outrageous, but they are totally cool with accepting a DLC that involes  "R&R".
Because the whole "R&R" in the middle of an extinction event,THAT wouldn't be ridiculous at all. That wouldn't totally shatter the atmosphere and what little integrity (not of the 'artistic integrity' kind, mind you), that the third game has left. While planets are getting destroyed and members of the galactic community are getting turning into cyborg monsters, it's a great time to go play some cards. Maybe a swim?

So what you are saying is that of you kinda liked the ending you're an illerate...good job genious!<_<

[A_Pissed_Iguana]

No, people who said they were GOOD. As in:
"That was a good ending, I am glad that I have no idea what happens to my squad mates."
There are some parts of the extended cut that ARE pretty good and you can feel the old bioware spirit in them. But instead of just admitting they rushed it and giving us a real ending, they built on to the already flawed one. and now we are stuck in the situation where the DLC never really matters if you play it or not because they don't want to keep the original endings "artistic integrity" so apart from a few dialog changes, future DLC will not have any real affect and will always leave the overall story in the same place as it was before. It may have a good individual story, yes. For example, I enjoyed Omega, but it was totally pointless to buy, and somewhat aggravating that we had to pay that much for a chapter that didn't matter.
My rants about the DLC not mattering in the over-arching story and about the ending still being majorly flawed are over now.

Back to the topic. Like I said, I just don't see how the "a possibility for tears" quote comes in on an 'injected-in-the-middle' 'R&R' DLC...
It's just not adding up to me, that's why I was thinking post-ending...
but yeah.

[dead_goon]

ouroboros8642 wrote...

Who says this is the last dlc? There should be at least 2 more on the way. VOs were in studio way back in late October doing voice work. Then in December it was announced that all writers were on deck to pen the next script. How do you do record lines for a dlc that had not been written at the time?

Your forgetting that Omega arrived late November, so the VA's could've been redoing some lines for all we know, & of course that "skit" that Shep did at the gaming awards obviously needed voicing as well.

[futurepixels]

I want post-ending DLC too much to talk about it anymore.

[MayonnaiseNipple]

I love the fact that people see a single screenshot, and a tweet, and know exactly what the DLC is about, so confident in their baseless, far-reaching theories, and then proceed to cancel many a pre-order.

Srsly, anyone who thinks this R&R DLC, withing nothing more than blackjack and hookers, is a fool.

And I pity that fool.

Modifié par MayonnaiseNipple, 30 janvier 2013 - 01:48 .

[emanziboy]

A_Pissed_Iguana wrote...

What really gets me is people are starting to come around to the "endings" just out of a lack of alternatives, or will even go so far to say that they were GOOD (which if you have taken even ONE college level english course in your life you would know that they are indeed VERY bad).

You claim that your college eductaion allows you to see that the endings are objectively bad, but then you support an ending where the crucible is merely a convenient instant-win button. You only need to take a middle-school english course to see the irony there.

[A_Pissed_Iguana]

emanziboy wrote...

A_Pissed_Iguana wrote...

What really gets me is people are starting to come around to the "endings" just out of a lack of alternatives, or will even go so far to say that they were GOOD (which if you have taken even ONE college level english course in your life you would know that they are indeed VERY bad).

You claim that your college eductaion allows you to see that the endings are objectively bad, but then you support an ending where the crucible is merely a convenient instant-win button. You only need to take a middle-school english course to see the irony there.

Nowhere did I say that I wanted a crucible instant-win. I loved the complexity of the choices of the ending that was posted earlier and how everything had an affect on the ending. Not to mention the antagonist of the second game (would have been the antagonist of the third also, had they given him one.single.line) actually played a part in the ending posted earlier....Which is how it should have been.
No irony here, sir...

[MayonnaiseNipple]

HEY GAIZ, LET'S TAKE ONE OF THE FEW GOOD THREADS LEFT ON BSN, AND SPAM IT WITH THE SAME ARGUMENTS WE'VE SEEN FOR 10 MONTHS!

ALSO, YAY SPOILERS ON A NO-SPOILER THREAD!

NOTHING WILL GO WRONG.

[emanziboy]

Good point mayonaise, I forgot what forum this is, deleting spoilerific response.

Modifié par emanziboy, 30 janvier 2013 - 02:40 .

[emanziboy]

Modifié par emanziboy, 30 janvier 2013 - 02:36 .

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

A_Pissed_Iguana wrote...

ouroboros8642 wrote...

Who says this is the last dlc? There should be at least 2 more on the way. VOs were in studio way back in late October doing voice work. Then in December it was announced that all writers were on deck to pen the next script. How do you do record lines for a dlc that had not been written at the time?

This.

I hate to be the guy who does this, but is there any chance at all they are trolling us and we are about to get super awesome ending DLC like THIS?
(from someone's sig above).

That would be nice, but I've been disappointed too many times to get hyped up this early.  We'll see.

[Trisskit]

dead_goon wrote...

Your forgetting that Omega arrived late November, so the VA's could've been redoing some lines for all we know, & of course that "skit" that Shep did at the gaming awards obviously needed voicing as well.

But wasn't Raphael Sbarge one of the people that tweeted back then? Kaidan wasn't in the skit or the Omega dlc (from what I've read/watched, given that I haven't played Omega myself yet).

Modifié par Trisskit, 30 janvier 2013 - 05:15 .

[GimmeDaGun]

A_Pissed_Iguana wrote...

futurepixels wrote...

Ridiculous response aside, this is a good point.

If you are referring to me....
You're right, it's totally ridiculous. (when half of the community is thinking it).
I didn't say that I thought it was going to happen or anything, just hoping.

You do realize that a year or so ago there were people saying exactly what you and I just wrote, except about mass effect 1 coming to PS3, right? Look what happened. And with (easily) half of the community still wanting an ending that wasn't blatantly rushed and just plain bad writing, it's really not that ridiculous. Improbable. Yes. But ridiculous?
Next time, try not to be an ass, buddy.

What really gets me is people are starting to come around to the "endings" just out of a lack of alternatives, or will even go so far to say that they were GOOD (which if you have taken even ONE college level english course in your life you would know that they are indeed VERY bad). They accept that, and to still hope (not expect) an ending DLC is outrageous, but they are totally cool with accepting a DLC that involes  "R&R".
Because the whole "R&R" in the middle of an extinction event,THAT wouldn't be ridiculous at all. That wouldn't totally shatter the atmosphere and what little integrity (not of the 'artistic integrity' kind, mind you), that the third game has left. While planets are getting destroyed and members of the galactic community are getting turning into cyborg monsters, it's a great time to go play some cards. Maybe a swim?

Thanks for sharing your opinion and for questioning my level of intelligence at the same time, since I like the endings (yeah, I say the ending is "good"), and yes I also find a complete rewrite or extention of the endings sold as a dlc a year after the game's release ridiculous - not you, but the whole despearte anticipation for something so unlikely to happen, all based on whishful thinking and on the inability to let go. Your ranting about R&R is also ridiculous, since most probably it was just a friendly wink, a humorous remark for teasing's sake form Casey's part which was never meant to be taken for face value (as a "promised" feature of the coming dlc)... but, yet again typical BSN. And don't fall for provocation, or if you do, take your pills beforehand. Have a nice day!

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 30 janvier 2013 - 06:31 .

[GimmeDaGun]

MayonnaiseNipple wrote...

HEY GAIZ, LET'S TAKE ONE OF THE FEW GOOD THREADS LEFT ON BSN, AND SPAM IT WITH THE SAME ARGUMENTS WE'VE SEEN FOR 10 MONTHS!

ALSO, YAY SPOILERS ON A NO-SPOILER THREAD!

NOTHING WILL GO WRONG.

You're right sir. Any new tweets?

[Solmanian]

R&R actually does make sense. If you remember, joker talking to shepard about how he (shepard) is on the brink of nevous breakdown.
Combating "battle fatigue", is a high priority in any modern army. When a soldier that sees combat on a daily basis (like shepard), it's becomes increasingly difficult to leave "combat mode". Those of you who haven't seen combat maybe think "well, thats a good thing(?)". But being "on" like this for extended periods of time takes a serious toll on both the body and mind, and battle effectiveness drops exponentialy. That's why reserves are so importent in real life stratagy (instead of the "throw every able bodied man at the enemy" approach we see in RTS games). The entrance of fresh troops into a combat that have been going on for hours, aswell as rotating out your fatigued units (who probably have any number of wounded, or even casualties) is a major force multiplier. In most contemporery (from the last decade) battles I'm familiar with, the side that couldn't produce reinforcements either chose to retreat or got "steamrolled". It's perfectly plausible from my POV, for admiral Hacket to order shepard to "stand down" for R&R before the big push. The normandy is one ship, shepard is one N7 operative slash spectre. They are more importent as a symbole, than anything they could do on the battlefield. The damage to moral from losing Shepard would very well be a deathblow to the war effort.

[Veganterror]

Solmanian wrote...

R&R actually does make sense. If you remember, joker talking to shepard about how he (shepard) is on the brink of nevous breakdown.
Combating "battle fatigue", is a high priority in any modern army. When a soldier that sees combat on a daily basis (like shepard), it's becomes increasingly difficult to leave "combat mode". Those of you who haven't seen combat maybe think "well, thats a good thing(?)". But being "on" like this for extended periods of time takes a serious toll on both the body and mind, and battle effectiveness drops exponentialy. That's why reserves are so importent in real life stratagy (instead of the "throw every able bodied man at the enemy" approach we see in RTS games). The entrance of fresh troops into a combat that have been going on for hours, aswell as rotating out your fatigued units (who probably have any number of wounded, or even casualties) is a major force multiplier. In most contemporery (from the last decade) battles I'm familiar with, the side that couldn't produce reinforcements either chose to retreat or got "steamrolled". It's perfectly plausible from my POV, for admiral Hacket to order shepard to "stand down" for R&R before the big push. The normandy is one ship, shepard is one N7 operative slash spectre. They are more importent as a symbole, than anything they could do on the battlefield. The damage to moral from losing Shepard would very well be a deathblow to the war effort.

I believe you're right. But I have one question, simply out of curiosity: Steamrolled? What on earth is that?

[MWMike2011]

ouroboros8642 wrote...

Who says this is the last dlc? There should be at least 2 more on the way. VOs were in studio way back in late October doing voice work. Then in December it was announced that all writers were on deck to pen the next script. How do you do record lines for a dlc that had not been written at the time?

While I'd greatly love there to be more and more single player DLC, it was announced a couple weeks ago that the Mass Effect team had met for the last time. Some developers are moving on to Mass Effect 4, some are moving on the Dragon Age III. Sadly, this seems more and more to be the final Mass Effect 3 content. Which means that Dragon Age III is getting closer. 

[GimmeDaGun]

Solmanian wrote...

R&R actually does make sense. If you remember, joker talking to shepard about how he (shepard) is on the brink of nevous breakdown.
Combating "battle fatigue", is a high priority in any modern army. When a soldier that sees combat on a daily basis (like shepard), it's becomes increasingly difficult to leave "combat mode". Those of you who haven't seen combat maybe think "well, thats a good thing(?)". But being "on" like this for extended periods of time takes a serious toll on both the body and mind, and battle effectiveness drops exponentialy. That's why reserves are so importent in real life stratagy (instead of the "throw every able bodied man at the enemy" approach we see in RTS games). The entrance of fresh troops into a combat that have been going on for hours, aswell as rotating out your fatigued units (who probably have any number of wounded, or even casualties) is a major force multiplier. In most contemporery (from the last decade) battles I'm familiar with, the side that couldn't produce reinforcements either chose to retreat or got "steamrolled". It's perfectly plausible from my POV, for admiral Hacket to order shepard to "stand down" for R&R before the big push. The normandy is one ship, shepard is one N7 operative slash spectre. They are more importent as a symbole, than anything they could do on the battlefield. The damage to moral from losing Shepard would very well be a deathblow to the war effort.

Simply put: burn-out-syndrome should be avoided, because it deteteriorates your abilities and kill you in the long run. Yeah, it makes sense, but I highly doubt that this dlc would be about R&R. It may feature a poker table (since so many wanted it, so Bioware might include one), but I think it will be a story-dlc and not just about watching Shepa and crew having fun all day. 

People got confued by Casey's humorous, winky kind of presentation of that teaser photo. I don't think he meant it to be taken for face value... but people these days tend to take apart every single detail and overspeculate. Just like that krogan in the pic: it could be just a generic krogan npc... but everybody jumped on the conclusion: it must be Wrex. I wouldn't stake my life on it. We'll see. 

[Solmanian]

Veganterror wrote...

I believe you're right. But I have one question, simply out of curiosity: Steamrolled? What on earth is that?

Steamrolled:
1. To be wiped out very quickly without any pause in the attack.
2. Rapid, continuous destruction, often with a certain destination in mind.
3. An incredibly quick, very destructive lost that often seems comical

Modifié par Solmanian, 30 janvier 2013 - 06:42 .