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[ElitePinecone]

Dragon Age Inquisition is doing those things, though. That game will have four races at least, and it looks like unique voices too.

DAI's races will have special story consequences, some apparently quite large, so I don't see how you could possibly say they'd never do something similar for Mass Effect.

[ElitePinecone]

I can't remember exactly where but I think it was briefly discussed in one of the PAX panels. They were talking about wanting to make sure the protagonist sounded like they belonged in the world (so no weird Ferelden accent on an ostensibly Orlesian character).

Definitely not confirmed though!

[abch4]

Enters ME forum twitter thread, no tweets, DAI discussion........

[rallyfan]

As much as I dislike the teasing twitter posts I actually get depressed when I don't hear one for a while.

[Nitrocuban]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Dragon Age Inquisition is doing those things, though. That game will have four races at least, and it looks like unique voices too.

DAI's races will have special story consequences, some apparently quite large, so I don't see how you could possibly say they'd never do something similar for Mass Effect.

Based on how little effort they put in ME regarding choices and character background I really doubt they will do anything like multiple VAs and missions per character. They didn't even get Shepards name right on the memorial wall, remember?
I might be wrong but chances are high I'm not.

[Bacusan]

Manveer Heir ‏@manveerheir 6m
New Mass Effect update. Our art team is ****ing sick. End transmission.

[Lady Sif]

Mac Walters@macwalterslives: After an intense week of narrative meetings for #masseffect ... The future looks brighter than ever. #NewBeginnings

[felipejiraya]

HYPE

[Iakus]

Rachel73 wrote...

Mac Walters@macwalterslives: After an intense week of narrative meetings for #masseffect ... The future looks brighter than ever. #NewBeginnings

Wish I could be excited by that.  But really, the bar isn't all that high at this point.

[Quaich]

@CCampbellArt
Today's sprint presentation was breath-taking. I deeply want to play this game I'm making with this team. #MassEffect


@Jharacampbell
Oh, holy ****. I envy the player who will experience this game as a completed whole. Not that I'd give up making it, of course #MassEffect


‏@manveerheir
New Mass Effect update. Our art team is ****ing sick. End transmission.

Modifié par Quaichia, 21 septembre 2013 - 12:01 .

[Lieber]

Great, a new wave of massive tease. I can't imagine what the game will look like with Frostbite 3.

[Bacusan]

Might as well be awesome.

I hope the next setting is post ME3, and you are some sort of merc scavenging for survival,

[Shermos]

Bacusan wrote...

Might as well be awesome.

I hope the next setting is post ME3, and you are some sort of merc scavenging for survival,

Re: post ME3 setting. I think you'll get your wish judging from what little bit has come out so far. Otherwise, you, me, and the majority of ME fans on these boards and Twitter will be dissapointed.

As far as being a Merc goes... Not like the Blue Suns please. They and the others just came across as crime gangs with a cover of legality. I like the idea of being some kind of private detective or perhaps a former/retired police detective sent out by the Alliance or Council to investigate some new dark truth about the galaxy. Maybe the stated mission could be to go and find out who actually came up with the idea for the crucible only to get on the trail of something more serious. Yeah that sounds like a copy of ME1, but if you're going to copy something, you might as well copy something well liked right? 

[ElitePinecone]

Shermos wrote...
Otherwise, you, me, and the majority of ME fans on these boards and Twitter will be dissapointed. 

It doesn't really need to be pointed out that responses to Twitter questions (and forum posts) aren't statistically representative of a majority opinion. They're helpful for gaguing quick feedback, but I'd be very wary of concluding things about "the majority of fans" based on something as imprecise as counting replies or tweets. The most accurate thing that can be said is that they represent the opinion of people who replied. In many cases, such as online polls, claiming that they represent "the fans" as a whole is completely incorrect. 

That doesn't mean the opinion of those people is meaningless, but there's been a tendency to claim that "a majority of fans think X", when this simply can't be proven without better research - and when developers might have actual statistically valid information that points to something completely different, some fans get angry that "the majority" aren't being listened to.

Bioware and EA have actual market research teams that would investigate fan opinions and feedback about future games, but selecting from a far larger pool of people (and using better methods) than judging from a forum. For the business side of things, the opinions of the vast majority of fans who *never* engage with forums or tweets are probably more important, if only because they represent a far larger segment of the fanbase as a whole.

[Degrees1991]

I like that they're confident about making this game. I guess no info this year though seems they're still paper based on everything tbh. Hope these guys do well only reason I buy the next gen consoles.

[Bacusan]

Shermos wrote...

Bacusan wrote...

Might as well be awesome.

I hope the next setting is post ME3, and you are some sort of merc scavenging for survival,

Re: post ME3 setting. I think you'll get your wish judging from what little bit has come out so far. Otherwise, you, me, and the majority of ME fans on these boards and Twitter will be dissapointed.

As far as being a Merc goes... Not like the Blue Suns please. They and the others just came across as crime gangs with a cover of legality. I like the idea of being some kind of private detective or perhaps a former/retired police detective sent out by the Alliance or Council to investigate some new dark truth about the galaxy. Maybe the stated mission could be to go and find out who actually came up with the idea for the crucible only to get on the trail of something more serious. Yeah that sounds like a copy of ME1, but if you're going to copy something, you might as well copy something well liked right? 

Mind you my dear Shermos, i did not explaing my self, my bad.

When i stated a Merc i did not want to imply one of the gang-type merc bands. I wanted to imply a soldier from any race that just bailed military service and scraps by to survive on the ravaged earth. Maybe he has a small frigate and some extra hand as friends. 
This will be a different type of hero than shepard and still will have machinguns and awesomeness

[mupp3tz]

I'm also another who hopes that the game takes place post-ME3. Mostly because I'm wary that overarching questions are already answered. We know how things play out. Although, they could very well do a great job of weaving a storyline that takes place before or during ME1-3 that would null those concerns.

[KR96]

Honestly although I would love to see a post-ME3 game, I don't think it's going to happen. They would have to pick a canon ending and that's not really Bioware's style, right?

Also, my personal preference would be a First Contact War game, the player could play as Anderson as he was some kind of hero during that war if I recall correctly. 

Modifié par killerrabbit1996, 21 septembre 2013 - 09:15 .

[MrDbow]

killerrabbit1996 wrote...
Also, my personal preference would be a First Contact War game, the player could play as Anderson as he was some kind of hero during that war if I recall correctly.

I am the exact opposite.  My personal hope/preference is something post-ME3.  I know, I will be very disappointed if the story centered on the First Contact War, only because within it's own codex, it wasn't really much of a war.  But, they could always expand it, so who knows.  I just do not want a prequel.

iakus wrote...
Wish I could be excited by that.  But really, the bar isn't all that high at this point.

I do feel uneasy when I see a response like this, however I understand the opinion.  I do expect more time to be given to the next Mass Effect like what is being given to DA:I.  Not as rushed, as before.  More time to simmer the plot/story/gameplay.  I hope to not play the next Mass Effect until the holiday of 2015

[KR96]

MrDbow wrote...

killerrabbit1996 wrote...
Also, my personal preference would be a First Contact War game, the player could play as Anderson as he was some kind of hero during that war if I recall correctly.

I am the exact opposite.  My personal hope/preference is something post-ME3.  I know, I will be very disappointed if the story centered on the First Contact War, only because within it's own codex, it wasn't really much of a war.  But, they could always expand it, so who knows.  I just do not want a prequel.

Although I can agree on the fact that the First Contact War might be a lot less epic than the ME series as a whole, especially since the Turians refer to it only as the Relay no. # incident, I simply don't see how Bioware could create a post-ME3 game with the kind of endings they allowed the player to choose from. 

Modifié par killerrabbit1996, 21 septembre 2013 - 10:17 .

[chris2365]

killerrabbit1996 wrote...

MrDbow wrote...

killerrabbit1996 wrote...
Also, my personal preference would be a First Contact War game, the player could play as Anderson as he was some kind of hero during that war if I recall correctly.

I am the exact opposite.  My personal hope/preference is something post-ME3.  I know, I will be very disappointed if the story centered on the First Contact War, only because within it's own codex, it wasn't really much of a war.  But, they could always expand it, so who knows.  I just do not want a prequel.

Although I can agree on the fact that the First Contact War might be a lot less epic than the ME series as a whole, especially since the Turians refer to it only as the Relay no. # incident, I simply don't see how Bioware could create a post-ME3 game with the kind of endings they allowed the player to choose from. 

That's obviously the major problem going forward. The Extended Cut  was intended to explain the state of the galaxy in the decades and even centuries that followed afterward. Not to mention that the choices of players will almost certainly be ignored or canonised.

Personally, a prequel would be a less interesting but safer bet. There is still some storytelling potential in this period, but maybe not to the level of the Mass Effect Trilogy.

As for a sequel, there is still the possiblity to explore this setting without causing a civil war on the internet. The devs have said that they'll write in the period that has the best potential, and not necesserily the easiest

[ElitePinecone]

Not sure if this was posted:

Mac Walters ‏@macwalterslives
After an intense week of narrative meetings for #masseffect ... The future looks brighter than ever. #NewBeginnings

[Shermos]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Shermos wrote...
Otherwise, you, me, and the majority of ME fans on these boards and Twitter will be dissapointed. 

It doesn't really need to be pointed out that responses to Twitter questions (and forum posts) aren't statistically representative of a majority opinion. They're helpful for gaguing quick feedback, but I'd be very wary of concluding things about "the majority of fans" based on something as imprecise as counting replies or tweets. The most accurate thing that can be said is that they represent the opinion of people who replied. In many cases, such as online polls, claiming that they represent "the fans" as a whole is completely incorrect. 

That doesn't mean the opinion of those people is meaningless, but there's been a tendency to claim that "a majority of fans think X", when this simply can't be proven without better research - and when developers might have actual statistically valid information that points to something completely different, some fans get angry that "the majority" aren't being listened to.

Bioware and EA have actual market research teams that would investigate fan opinions and feedback about future games, but selecting from a far larger pool of people (and using better methods) than judging from a forum. For the business side of things, the opinions of the vast majority of fans who *never* engage with forums or tweets are probably more important, if only because they represent a far larger segment of the fanbase as a whole.

We'll have to agree to disagree mate. I can accept the the forums plus twitter does not represent the WHOLE fanbase, but now that there are no new releases, and the EA/ME3 ending hate has died down to something sane, I'd say it is a pretty good representation of the invested fanbase. That's who the writers really need to listen to. Market research is good at making products sell, but it's terrible when it's applied to story telling. I come back to the example of Star Trek. Since the reboot has come out, it's attracted big audiences but alienated a large part (I'd say a majority) of the traditional Trekkie fanbase. I feel that a prequel is not good for the ME universe the same way a reboot has ****ed with my beloved Star Trek, and I think a majority of the commited fan base would agree. Maybe they are doing a prequel and maybe they can make it work, but I'd rather they move forward. I don't like end of history/happy ending type stories so much. There is always a tomorrow with new challenges to deal with. 

Let me ask you something, if the next game does takes place after ME3, would you play it? Do you think most people who want a prequel would?

As for choosing a canon ending, I could deal with that, even if they chose the ending a like the least - destroy. But if they make the game take place a few hundred years or more into the future, the differences between the endings could be minimised, at least between Control and Synthesis.

We'll just have to wait and see what they come up with.  

[ElitePinecone]

Why should people who stick around on a forum for years after a game's launch be given special treatment or attention? The opinions of super-super-invested people aren't any more useful just because they spend an inordinate amount of time engaging with the series and know it back to front. You shouldn't expect the ability to influence the writers just because you really, really like something. The $60 of someone who knows the entire series inside out is worth the same as someone who follows the game sporadically or likes it for the combat, and there are a hell of a lot more of them than the super-invested people.

And again, random people replying on a forum are not even representative of the committed fanbase, let alone the wider one. Plenty of people are passionate about the series but never come here, or never give feedback at all, or don't get involved in the ridiculous arguments. Fans choosing to reply to a thread or a tweet about the next ME's time period are by definition not representative.

It's entirely possible that a majority of people want a certain time period. But we'll *never* know accurately, unless there was some way of randomly selecting people from the entire fanbase (or, I guess, the forums) and asking them the question. Interpreting from the answers of people who select themselves is never going to give an accurate or representative result - all you can draw from it is the opinions of those who replied.

If the next game isn't a sequel and people run around screaming that "a majority of the fans wanted a sequel", they're at best completely misguided and at worst being deliberately wrong and misleading. Without better research, we have no idea *what* "the fans" think, even if there was such a consensus.