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[Etocis]

Let's hope the Omni-tech has better success rates than the Kinect.

[B.Shep]

I don't wanna brag, but the hiring page image is just a photo of my new office spot. We're using omnitech to develop the game. It's next-next-gen!

I need a office like that!

[N7 Shadow 90]

That hiring page has a picture of a Mass Effect scene, but I don't recognise it...

 

 

 

Anyone else recognise it?

 

Looks a little like the room Admiral Hackett was in when he is handed a datapad during ME3's Extended Cut.

[DextroDNA]

QA tester doesn't comment on whether or not the picture is from ME:N...

 

...confirmed.

[ElitePinecone]

 

Also, @ElitePineCone - I get why you would find the period interesting but from a greater standpoint, prequels really, really are not lucrative. Or interesting. Or giving you much room for moving forward, which is what our human brains are hard-wired to do. Like, to quote only one reason why a prequel would not work, how would you justify new species in a prequel - not to mention several - that make no impact whatsoever on the events that take place following? Did everyone just sort of forget about them?

 

We have no official confirmation that MEN will have new species, so I'm not really treating that as an obstacle until it becomes one.

 

And even if they were introduced in a prequel, I don't think the team ever intended for the species featured in Shepard's trilogy to be literally representative of every single known race in the entire galaxy. Nobody complained that the Yahg were entirely absent from ME and ME2 (they only appeared in ME2 DLC, remember), and there are plenty of races who presumably have advanced technology but not to the point where they need an entire embassy on the Citadel. 

 

(It's like the people who complain that a prequel doesn't make sense because nobody would talk about its events in Shepard's time in 2183 - well, do we know or care about every single event in Earth's history from 20 or 30 years ago? The Falklands War is on the internet and in books, but does anybody talk about it casually in conversation except when it's specifically a topic of debate? And Mass Effect is dealing with an entire galaxy of wars, conflicts, uprisings, journeys and adventures.)

[EatChildren]

We have no official confirmation that MEN will have new species, so I'm not really treating that as an obstacle until it becomes one.

 
They've implied "new species" is a cornerstone of what fans have come to expect from the franchise, so I'll be very surprised if it doesn't have new species. To quote Casey Hudson:
 

“It’s the idea of exploring a vast universe: going out and seeing amazing new things. It’s scale: seeing new planets, new species, and having choices that matter. Because it’s a story, and one that you care about,” Hudson says. “It’s going to continue on, and the things people love about Mass Effect they’ll see even better in the next generation of games.”

Besides, every mainline Mass Effect has introduced "new species" of a sort. Mass Effect 2 opened gates for the Vorcha and Drell, while giving Batarians a place after Mass Effect introduced them in DLC. Yahg then came about via Lair of the Shadow Broker. While Mass Effect 3 had no new species in the traditional sense, the various Reaper mutations filled that void, of which there were many.

I don't consider it confirmed until it's actually confirmed, but I have no doubt Mass Effect 4 will introduce new species irrespective of where in the timeline it's set.

[DextroDNA]

whoops

[DextroDNA]

I don't consider it confirmed until it's actually confirmed, but I have no doubt Mass Effect 4 will introduce new species irrespective of where in the timeline it's set.

There's not going to be a new species unless it's a sequel.

 

We'd know about any other species by now, it's too late in the game to be adding in species that were apparently there the whole time.

[EatChildren]

Then it's a sequel. I don't really buy the "it's too late" argument even if it makes sense logistically to not add significant new species to the mythos, because the heart of my argument isn't "what makes sense in the lore" and instead "what do the developers want to do, and what is expected of a Mass Effect game". No matter where it's set in the timeline I fully expect new species to appear, believably or not.

[ElitePinecone]

There's not going to be a new species unless it's a sequel.

 

We'd know about any other species by now, it's too late in the game to be adding in species that were apparently there the whole time.

 

I just don't understand that argument, though. Shepard didn't go to every single planet in the galaxy. We never even went to many areas on the Citadel. How can you generalise the entire state of the galaxy in 2183 from the experiences and viewpoint of one person? That's like reading a history of World War II then saying that every other country didn't exist because it didn't participate, or was a footnote.

 

New species might not be as powerful and widespread as the turians or asari, but they can certainly exist without being referenced in Shepard's story. We managed to go through the whole of ME1 without seeing or hearing a drell, Collector, batarian, vorcha or yahg - were you upset when they appeared in later games?

[Etocis]

We did have batarians in ME1 with Anderson's backstory with a outdated codex picture and an entire DLC dedicated to introducing them ME universe. Anyone remember bring down the sky?

[DextroDNA]

I just don't understand that argument, though. Shepard didn't go to every single planet in the galaxy. We never even went to many areas on the Citadel. How can you generalise the entire state of the galaxy in 2183 from the experiences and viewpoint of one person? That's like reading a history of World War II then saying that every other country didn't exist because it didn't participate, or was a footnote.

 

New species might not be as powerful and widespread as the turians or asari, but they can certainly exist without being referenced in Shepard's story. We managed to go through the whole of ME1 without seeing or hearing a drell, Collector, batarian, vorcha or yahg - were you upset when they appeared in later games?

 

Take into account there was just a full-blown GALACTIC WAR, where we recruited help from every known species in the Galaxy. Even the Raloi, who didn't make an appearance in the game, were referenced in a Cerberus News article.

 

If it's a prequel, there won't be any new species. That's a fact. How would they even explain it? "Oh yeah, these guys just didn't want anything to do with anything and you haven't seen them anywhere on the Citadel in the past 4 years because they're shy."

 

The Batarians were mentioned in the ME1 Codex and featured in an ME1 DLC, barely anybody knew about the Collectors because they lived beyond the Omega 4 Relay (some even believed they didn't even exist). There are essentially no Vorcha on the Citadel - but there are tonnes on Omega, which we only visited in ME2. Yahg are pre-spaceflight species and we've only seen the Shadow Broker and the ones experimented on on Sur'Kesh.

 

The Drell, again, very few on the Citadel and those that are on the Citadel are only in the Wards. We didn't even see any new Drell in ME3 - so it's believable that we didn't see any in ME1 either.

 

At no point have I indicated that I'm "upset"... I'm just saying all the races have already been established. They're not going to introduce any new races in a prequel and that's that - deal with it.

[B.Shep]

I think  if the game really have exploration as a main theme then it makes more sense to discover news species in some less explored area from the Milky Way.

[ElitePinecone]

 "Oh yeah, these guys just didn't want anything to do with anything and you haven't seen them anywhere on the Citadel in the past 4 years because they're shy."

 

Shepard did not go to every area of the Citadel. And your points about the vorcha, drell, Collectors and yahg could just as easily apply to any other species that existed in 2183 but Shepard never met. By making up reasons why we didn't meet them in ME1 (when the writers hadn't even thought of them) you're also imagining reasons why Shepard wouldn't have encountered dozens of other hypothetical species.

 

They lived in a remote location.

They're a galactic myth and nobody believes they exist.

They only inhabit one specific area of the galaxy.

There are virtually none on the Citadel.

They're a pre-spaceflight species.

 

That doesn't even include the possibility that species existed and made contact with the Council prior to ME1 (let's say. 2160) before going extinct or otherwise disappearing. Shepard would have no reason to know or care about an event in the past, but it could plausibly form the basis of an entire game.

[DextroDNA]

Shepard did not go to every area of the Citadel. And your points about the vorcha, drell, Collectors and yahg could just as easily apply to any other species that existed in 2183 but Shepard never met. By making up reasons why we didn't meet them in ME1 (when the writers hadn't even thought of them) you're also imagining reasons why Shepard wouldn't have encountered dozens of other hypothetical species.

 

They lived in a remote location.

They're a galactic myth and nobody believes they exist.

They only inhabit one specific area of the galaxy.

There are virtually none on the Citadel.

They're a pre-spaceflight species.

 

That doesn't even include the possibility that species existed and made contact with the Council prior to ME1 (let's say. 2160) before going extinct or otherwise disappearing. Shepard would have no reason to know or care about an event in the past, but it could plausibly form the basis of an entire game.

If ME:N were a prequel, then it would still be set during or after the First Contact War; so no "extinct" species.

 

If there were a "new species" in a prequel, they would probably be unknown to the rest of the Galaxy and either be wiped out or not discovered again until some point after 2186.

 

There's just no plausible way for them to introduce a full-blown new species into a prequel, but that doesn't matter anyway because I'm 101% sure it's going to be a sequel.

[Lady Sif]

 

Barrett Rodych ‏@ForgedPixels 

Allrighty, time to turn this mess into a productive workstation again. #MessEffect pic.twitter.com/lrOHSdg84k

 

Barrett Rodych ‏@ForgedPixels 

I can think of worse ways to spend a Saturday afternoon than with @FrostbiteEngine, Mass Effect, and an electro playlist.

 

Barrett Rodych ‏@ForgedPixels 

No one's in the office to see me do my victory jig. Pretty much the best feeling when a thing in @FrostbiteEngine works on the first attempt

[EatChildren]

I think TheEliteBrit's position is that introducing a major species during (or shortly before) the Shepard trilogy arc, and by major I mean one that has a known presence among Citadel society, is a bit of a cop-out within the established canon. Of course it can be done, as it was in Mass Effect 2, but over three games the feeling is that the "Citadel space" is fairly well documented and integrated into the game presentation. Obviously Shepard did not see or do everything, but the games give the impression that every species of monetary and political significance (and then some) was accounted for. Those that have been introduced post-ME1 have been minor species. Drell society is decimated and their species as a whole on the fringe of extinction. Vorcha, through thriving, are unwelcome in Citadel space. Batarians were introduced in ME1 and annexed themselves from the Citadel. Yahg are a quarantined minor race. And so on. Raloi were written out of Mass Effect 3 as having cut ties with Citadel space to avoid war. Collectors are deliberately small and secretive. So far they've 'excused' post-ME3 race introduction this way, without going "Oh, here's Turian/Asari/Salarian 2.0. You just never noticed!".

There's wiggle room, of course. I don't think anybody with their head screwed on would argue that all races in the galaxy are known, let alone have come into contact with Citadel space, or even the Terminus systems. The series makes a very clear point that the total of unlocked relays across Citadel/Terminus/etc is a very small percentage of known relays. Political sanctions have relays locked down, and an overwhelming majority of the Milky Way remains isolated and mysterious to the rest of the galaxy, either because systems are locked behind inactive relays or because the associated systems/relays literally haven't been discovered. Unknown species would exist parallel to the Shepard arc, and before, some of which would be space faring. Contact is not guaranteed. The big question is how you write them in during this timeline window without it seeming tacky and excused as "oh you just didn't notice lolol".

Hence why people gravitate more towards a sequel, where the context of new species is more inviting and plausible.

[Hrungr]

 

 

Barrett Rodych ‏@ForgedPixels 

Allrighty, time to turn this mess into a productive workstation again. #MessEffect pic.twitter.com/lrOHSdg84k

 

Barrett Rodych ‏@ForgedPixels 

I can think of worse ways to spend a Saturday afternoon than with @FrostbiteEngine, Mass Effect, and an electro playlist.

 

Barrett Rodych ‏@ForgedPixels 

No one's in the office to see me do my victory jig. Pretty much the best feeling when a thing in @FrostbiteEngine works on the first attempt

 

 

I just had a curl-up-in-a-ball-in-the-corner flashback to my recent move...

[Propelled Rage]

 

 

“It’s the idea of exploring a vast universe: going out and seeing amazing new things. It’s scale: seeing new planets, new species, and having choices that matter. Because it’s a story, and one that you care about,” Hudson says. “It’s going to continue on, and the things people love about Mass Effect they’ll see even better in the next generation of games.”

 

So its a sequel??

[ElitePinecone]

So its a sequel??

 

That is a long bow to draw from those comments.

 

The Mass Effect series can continue on without the next game being set chronologically after the previous trilogy.

[Lady Sif]

Patrick Weeks@PatrickWeekes: Am doing a reading at my awesome sister's wedding. She said I could pick anything I wanted, so Mordin patter song it is!

Patrick Weeks@PatrickWeekes: Look, if she had said, 'Pick from anything you like EXCEPT THE BLASTO MOVIE,' I would have honored that. But she didn't. Ergo, badassfully.

[EatChildren]

So its a sequel??

Nah. He means that Mass Effect, the series, and all the components we've come to love, will continue on.

[Etocis]

I hope ME4 starts out fresh and doesn't have the ME3 save import option. Why? Because it would be good for Bioware to have a new start for new content and for those who don't have the time or means to play the trilogy and feel like content is unfairly being locked out.

[EatChildren]

My gut says if there's an import option it'll be for gimmicks and fluff that nod to long time fans and not for anything of narrative significance.

[B.Shep]

Apart from the PC, would a save import feature works with the PS4 and Xbox One?

 

Anyway, I find that very unlikely to happen.