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[N7 Shadow 90]

Ashe | Ladyinsanity ‏@ladyinsanity   
On integrating M/M, F/F relationships across races in next Mass Effect: "can't divulge that" however inclusivity is important. #BiowareBase

Ashe | Ladyinsanity ‏@ladyinsanity
The Clone plot from ME3's Citadel DLC was the "most outlandish [the developers] could come up with." #BiowareBase
 

[ElitePinecone]

Ashe | Ladyinsanity ‏@ladyinsanity
The Clone plot from ME3's Citadel DLC was the "most outlandish [the developers] could come up with." #BiowareBase
 

 

must. resist. 

[Etocis]

Elite, in the timeless words of the BORG. "Resistance is Futile."

[RustyLH]

Ashe | Ladyinsanity ‏@ladyinsanity   
On integrating M/M, F/F relationships across races in next Mass Effect: "can't divulge that" however inclusivity is important. #BiowareBase
 

 

Look, I hope that they respect EVERYONE's views, and the best way to do that is to make it such that if you don't want any MM/FF in the story, there isn't any, and if you do want it, it is there.  A god example is ME1 and ME2, while playing the FemShep you had the option to romance a female but did not have to.  And, if you chose not to, the most you had to deal with was a vaguely flirty option in the dialogue wheel.  I think what bothered some people was that homesexuality was in effect forced on you by making it such that the issue was brought up repeatedly with Cortez.  I do not remember it being brought up much if at all with Samantha Traynor unless you romanced her, or let her use your shower as a femshep.  With Cortez the issue was there regardless because it wasn't so much a romance thing, it was a dialogue thing.

 

I myself wasn't bothered at all by it but that is not the point.  It isn't what bothers me or what bothers you, or what we think should or should not bother others.  It is also not about what exists in real life.  A lot of stuff exists in real life that even I do not want in a game.  Games are supposed to be an escape from real life.  It is entertainment.  Some people fight dogs in real life but I don't want realistic depictions of it in a game.  Yes, I know, huge difference between dog fighting and other things, but the point is the same.  Some people might want it in a game.  So my point is that the game in areas that may really be offensive or iritating to some people should be worked into the game in such a manner that they can choose to have it or not.  A good example was in a mod for Morrowind, the better bodies one, you had three options.  underwear on all people, naked females or everyone naked.....when there was no armor on them.  In short it gave you the option to have it the way you wanted.  IMHO that is the way all games should be made.

[RustyLH]

Ashe | Ladyinsanity ‏@ladyinsanity 

Last panel for #BiowareBase is pretty full. People sitting on the floor and in hallway. What are fire codes? Dat Mass Effect.

 

David Hulegaard ‏@HulegaardBooks

#PAXEast2014 is feeling like a Mass Effect reunion. nice seeing you, @rana_mary!

 

 

I love that shirt on her!  Too funny!  Of course, she ended up being a romance option in the DLC.

[SwobyJ]

So Steve can't talk about things that make clear that he likes guys?

 

Should Kasumi not talk about Jacob?

 

Should Jacob never mention that he once was an item with Miranda?

 

You want Steve and Samantha to keep it hidden, pretty much? Because some people don't want it?

[PCThug]

Doesn't Steve only show interest in Shep if you pick the "I'm eye candy too" option on the dialogue wheel when they're in the nightclub? Which is an optional scene anyway? I really don't understand how having a gay character talking about his dead husband is "forcing" homosexuality on anyone.

[RustyLH]

Hope so!

 

They can't do an entire panel on the Mass Effect universe without at least hinting about the next game, surely.

 

 

Yes, they really can. 

 

 

I heard a really bad rumor and I soooooo hope it is not true.  Basically the rumor goes that ME4 is going to depart so far from the story that it will barely even resemble Mass Effect.  In other words, what I was told was that some new race finds what was an inactive relay, so not damaged, and the activate it, and go to a whole new galaxy where they meet a race that thought they were the only race in existence.  No humans, Asari, turians, Citadel, N7, etc...  On one hand that sounds far fetched, but on the other hand, it would allow them to not have to deal with the Shepard story one little bit.  No need to create a back story...like the destruction ending was what happened but Shepard lived and became the next Councilor, undoing the damage that Udina did to the position, etc...  No need to mention Grunt or Liara even though they would be alive unless you advanced the timeline about 900 years.  No need to have any Shepard statues, and let's face it...realisticly if Shepard saved the galaxy, his name would be everywhere as would his image...for hundreds of years.  Inistially his name would become the favorite child's name for many races.  His name would be on everything.  New Skycars, Alliance ship, Alliance base, etc... You name it, his name would be there.  Advance a couple of hundred years and he would still be popular.  Think George Washington on steroids.  George helped create a nation..while everyone in the galaxy would owe their existence to Shepard.  So you could imagine a statue of him in front of nearly every building.  Well, if they get so far away from the past story that it is a whole new galaxy with new races, the problem is solved for them.

[RenegadeXV]

Doesn't Steve only show interest in Shep if you pick the "I'm eye candy too" option on the dialogue wheel when they're in the nightclub? Which is an optional scene anyway? I really don't understand how having a gay character talking about his dead husband is "forcing" homosexuality on anyone.

 

Yup. And I'm pretty sure that to actually romance Steve you need to select more than just that dialogue option. There are one or two subsequent dialogue choices you need to make for that to happen.

 

If the idea is that in order to respect everyone's view certain views would then have to be restrained, then I'm against that. If people don't want any homosexual content then simply ignore those characters. I don't want any characteristics of a character diluted simply because some people are uncomfortable with that character's sexuality.

[Etocis]

Getting back to PAX 2014, can anyone post a quick recap of the highlights?

[Hrungr]

I heard a really bad rumor and I soooooo hope it is not true.  Basically the rumor goes that ME4 is going to depart so far from the story that it will barely even resemble Mass Effect.  In other words, what I was told was that some new race finds what was an inactive relay, so not damaged, and the activate it, and go to a whole new galaxy where they meet a race that thought they were the only race in existence.  No humans, Asari, turians, Citadel, N7, etc...  On one hand that sounds far fetched, but on the other hand, it would allow them to not have to deal with the Shepard story one little bit.  No need to create a back story...like the destruction ending was what happened but Shepard lived and became the next Councilor, undoing the damage that Udina did to the position, etc...  No need to mention Grunt or Liara even though they would be alive unless you advanced the timeline about 900 years.  No need to have any Shepard statues, and let's face it...realisticly if Shepard saved the galaxy, his name would be everywhere as would his image...for hundreds of years.  Inistially his name would become the favorite child's name for many races.  His name would be on everything.  New Skycars, Alliance ship, Alliance base, etc... You name it, his name would be there.  Advance a couple of hundred years and he would still be popular.  Think George Washington on steroids.  George helped create a nation..while everyone in the galaxy would owe their existence to Shepard.  So you could imagine a statue of him in front of nearly every building.  Well, if they get so far away from the past story that it is a whole new galaxy with new races, the problem is solved for them.

 

Actually - this is pretty much what I expect will happen.

 

Except the ship that travels to the distant galaxy will already have a selection of familiar races onboard. Pick your reason - ark, exploration vessel, etc.

[Malanek]

I heard a really bad rumor and I soooooo hope it is not true.  Basically the rumor goes that ME4 is going to depart so far from the story that it will barely even resemble Mass Effect.  In other words, what I was told was that some new race finds what was an inactive relay, so not damaged, and the activate it, and go to a whole new galaxy where they meet a race that thought they were the only race in existence.  No humans, Asari, turians, Citadel, N7, etc...  On one hand that sounds far fetched, but on the other hand, it would allow them to not have to deal with the Shepard story one little bit.  No need to create a back story...like the destruction ending was what happened but Shepard lived and became the next Councilor, undoing the damage that Udina did to the position, etc...  No need to mention Grunt or Liara even though they would be alive unless you advanced the timeline about 900 years.  No need to have any Shepard statues, and let's face it...realisticly if Shepard saved the galaxy, his name would be everywhere as would his image...for hundreds of years.  Inistially his name would become the favorite child's name for many races.  His name would be on everything.  New Skycars, Alliance ship, Alliance base, etc... You name it, his name would be there.  Advance a couple of hundred years and he would still be popular.  Think George Washington on steroids.  George helped create a nation..while everyone in the galaxy would owe their existence to Shepard.  So you could imagine a statue of him in front of nearly every building.  Well, if they get so far away from the past story that it is a whole new galaxy with new races, the problem is solved for them.

I highly doubt it. One of the few official pieces of information we have been given was that the next game would be instantly recognisable as Mass Effect, and in my mind that means keeping a number of the different species is essential. Things are always subject to change, but in this case I can't see it.

[MrDbow]

--snip-- I think what bothered some people was that homesexuality was in effect forced on you by making it such that the issue was brought up repeatedly with Cortez.  I do not remember it being brought up much if at all with Samantha Traynor unless you romanced her, or let her use your shower as a femshep.  With Cortez the issue was there regardless because it wasn't so much a romance thing, it was a dialogue thing. --snip--

 

If that is your idea of "forced," then I would suggest for you to not play Mass Effect or any other BioWare game.  Because Cortez never once "forced his sexuality" on to you. If I could dislike a post, I would do it to this.  It's your opinion of course, as I am of the opinion that your post is very much off base.

 

 

I heard a really bad rumor ...

 

Rumors are everywhere.

[SNascimento]

Any rumor that says there won't be a human race is false. 

[Etocis]

Hey MrDBow, you could ask the user to take the topic somewhere else since it could detract the thread very easily. Also the dislike was removed to try and make the forums less "toxic" but I don't think a button can fix all problems against what the staples "That was easy" button would have you believe.

[EatChildren]

Look, I hope that they respect EVERYONE's views, and the best way to do that is to make it such that if you don't want any MM/FF in the story, there isn't any, and if you do want it, it is there.

It depends what you mean by "in the story". If you mean you/me/us romancing then yes, of course, it's your choice and I don't think that will ever change. If you mean NPCs simply discussing their sexuality and make it part of their character and narrative then hell no, that's not your choice, or mine, or anyone other than the authors. If someone dislikes it, play something else. Half the fun of Mass Effect is meeting all the different characters and learning who they are. Sexuality is a natural part of life no different than anything else, and if it helps define someone in the story, so be it.
  

I heard a really bad rumor and I soooooo hope it is not true.

There's a lot of rumour mongering. Among the most unbelievable are those that involve cutting the human race along with other series staple species from the entire lore and narrative. I think a totally alien Mass Effect would be rad, but it's just not going to happen, not for a multi-million dollar project aimed at marketing to the masses. Humans will be in it, and if they're not I'll give EA a round of applause for funding a bold move.

[ElitePinecone]

snip

If people can't deal with one instance of a man talking about his husband in a 30-hour game, and feel *that* constituted homosexuality being shoved in their faces, then I have absolutely no sympathy towards them. They have no right to complain, period. That reaction is hysterical to the point of actually being funny.

[ElitePinecone]

 
Rumors are everywhere.

I WILL DESTROY RUMOURS.

[Shermos]

I think a totally alien Mass Effect would be rad, but it's just not going to happen.

 

Now isn't the time for a bold move. Not with all the disspointment fans felt with ME3's ending. I wasn't one of those people myself, but for the long term sake of the franchise, I think Bioware should be making a game which is basically attractive to the requests of the majority of fans. That means staying in the Milky Way, meeting old races as well as new ones, and having the game occur after ME3.

 

And personally, I think going to a new galaxy without being able to see what happened in Milky Way in the time since the end of the Reaper War would be dissapointing and a bit of a cop-out. To the payer, it would be like watching the original series of Star Trek, and then moving directly to watching Voyager without seeing the Next Generation and Deep Space Nine.

 

I'm not saying Bioware couldn't move the universe into a different galaxy later, but now isn't a good time imo. The fandom needs to be gotten firmly back on board first. I would prefer though that if a future game is set outside the Milky Way, that it still be possible to travel 'home'. Perhaps that could be accomplished by a stable wormhole or sending a large mass Relay at FTL speeds.  

[EatChildren]

Right. Going to a new galaxy and annexing all the "old" species would be an odd move for the franchise as it would essentially result in culling a tremendous percentage of the lore and setting that fans have not just become attached to but used to define the series. It's less "Shepard needs to return!", because he/she does not and should not, and more "I recognise Turian military, the Citadel and Omega, the galactic politics, the technology, etc". New species in a new galaxy would be dope for originality, but discard the bulk of the franchise we know it, enough so that it might as well be a new one. It doesn't really address fan hopes and concerns for the series future, and would be a fairly bold marketing move by EA/BW, trying to market a narrative driven AAA series with almost no "grounding" for the average joe to attach to.

How bout that twitter?

[Hrungr]

Jessica Marzipan ‏@JessicaMerizan 

Mass Effect Risk ends PAX East! @StarDustShadow @burloire @robtachi @Ghinto @OJessicaNigri @jasonsoprovich sleep ^.^

 

[Beerfish]

Jessica seems to be having trouble with her emergency induction port.

[MrDbow]

Jessica seems to be having trouble with her emergency induction port.

 

That's a straw, Beerfish.

[Lady Sif]

Barrett Rodych ‏@ForgedPixels 

After the office move couple weeks ago, I sit right behind @CCampbellArt. He was just cackling & said "Now that's player tears right there."

 

Colin Campbell ‏@CCampbellArt 

@ForgedPixels In my defense, it was in reaction to something we're definitely not shipping. I don't feed off player tears.

 

Barrett Rodych ‏@ForgedPixels 

@CCampbellArt Part of QA is ensuring our game meets a tear-inducing quota, so no probs.

 

Jo Berry ‏@Joanna_Berry 

@CCampbellArt @ForgedPixels Of course we don't! ... We use them as perfume.

 

 

 

 

Evil Chris Priestly ‏@TheEvilChris 

"He's as pointless as Mass Effect 3's multiple endings". Ouch. Well played HBO's Silicon Valley. http://kotaku.com/new-hbo-show-makes-a-pretty-good-joke-about-mass-effect-1562906009 …

[Jaulen]

 

@CCampbellArt @ForgedPixels Of course we don't! ... We use them as perfume.

 

 

 

 

Evil Chris Priestly ‏@TheEvilChris 

"He's as pointless as Mass Effect 3's multiple endings". Ouch. Well played HBO's Silicon Valley. http://kotaku.com/new-hbo-show-makes-a-pretty-good-joke-about-mass-effect-1562906009 …

 

 

 

these two tweets...

 

 

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