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[Madcat 124]

I want to know if Bioware can throw us a bone as to whether or not the game is a sequel.

[Reever]

I'm going with the Arc theory. Sometime during ME3, the Council decided to send an Arc with thousands of people of each race into another galaxy, just in case the Reapers succeed. To avoid the Reapers getting wind of that, it was top secret (so Shepard never knew about it). Tada, new ME game without the need of having to choose an ending.

 

Yeah, that sounds good indeed.

 

 

That was a krogan, confirmed.

 

Also, "they've found a way to keep the trilogy separate, and tell a new story."

 

Cool. We should just wait and see and not dismiss any idea as "too meh". Who knows what the Bioware guys can weave out of some ideas (something awesome I hope).

That said, I'm open for an arc, a mass relay leading to another galaxy, an alternate universe, virtually anything as long as it's not cringe worthy.

 

But I'd prefer another galaxy, indeed

 

 

[ozthegweat]

Actually, I could see the Ark theory working pretty well.

One big conflict (no conflict, no stories!) could be "returning to the Milky Way" vs. "staying".

Perhaps we could see the existing races working more closely together, as there are now only a few of each species.

This would also mean no Geth, as they never would have let them on the Ark.

[aznjoez]

Liara made her time capsules, because there was a very real chance of them not winning the war.

 

I can easily see a scared Citadel government deciding to launch an ark ship. 

 

What harm would it do? No other civilization survived the Reapers, ever. They could hardly act on the assumption that Shepard would win. No sensible government would abandon precautions like that.

 

I'm just saying that the ark would be for nothing if the game is post ME3 because every ending (besides the new one were the reapers win) there is still plenty of living people left. Not saying they shouldn't make an ark because yes, they didn't know the outcome. The ark would get back to our galaxy and see we won.

 

The ARK would only make sense in being the back story for ME next if the reapers won, and those on the ARK could be like the Prothean Javik and warn the next races or start preparing early before the next attack.

 

Additionally, there was plenty of Indoctrinated people before the actual reaper invasion, and they would have to have kept it secret because if the reapers found out, they can probably easily find them, even if they went out of the galaxy, since they are much faster and they came from outside the galaxy in the first place. 

[shepskisaac]

Actually, I could see the Ark theory working pretty well.

One big conflict (no conflict, no stories!) could be "returning to the Milky Way" vs. "staying".

Perhaps we could see the existing races working more closely together, as there are now only a few of each species.

This would also mean no Geth, as they never would have let them on the Ark.

Geth could've 'sneaked in' on the refrigerator ice-making software, they're just software hehe.

 

Perhaps we could have have 'second wave' of ark travel with exclusive squadmates to reflect choices in original trilogy - you get green AI sexbot if you picked synthesis following the original ark to Andromeda galaxy, you get a mini-Leviathan if you picked destroy who tells you what the post-Destroy galaxy looks like or you get exclusiv son of Catalyst-Shep to tell you what post-Control Milky Way looks like.

 

EDIT: It's true though we would need a GOOD reason why the ark doesn't return and/or tries to check up whether Reapers won or lost and/or tris to reestablish contact with Milky Way

[ozthegweat]

The ark would get back to our galaxy and see we won.

 

It's not a three-hour drive, seeing what's up and giving the rest a call to come back. They've probably been in stasis pods because the journey would take hundreds of years.

 

Also, going back is not that easy. What if the Reapers won, the scouts get caught and the Reapers find out where the population of the Ark is? Is that a risk you would take?

[Chala]

As a huge Phantasy Star fan, I'm going to say this:

With the Ark thingy, yes... It will be a sequel, but at the cost of not seeing again places like the Citadel and Omega. And you have no idea how hard the nostalgia kicks your guts everytime you see a reference

 

I won't lie, it's not a decision one can really love, but is a good way to keep the franchise alive.

[shepskisaac]

It's not a three-hour drive, seeing what's up and giving the rest a call to come back. They've probably been in stasis pods because the journey would take hundreds of years.

 

Also, going back is not that easy. What if the Reapers won, the scouts get caught and the Reapers find out where the population of the Ark is? Is that a risk you would take?

Sent a probe then. This is a weak excuse why they wouldn't check up if the reapers won or not

[Judas Bock]

I also think that the ark theory seems fairly likely. It avoids a lot of problems the other scenarios have.

 

Post-ME3 in the same galaxy - the problem of canonizing an ending.

 

Parallel universe where the trilogy has not happened (because Shepard wasn't born or whatever) - the reapers are still out there, and they are coming (if reapers never existed humans/asari/turians/etc. might not exist, since the galaxy has not seen the intervention of the reapers for millions/billions of years).

 

So yeah, probably an ark. Though I agree that it would be sad not to see the established factions again.

[Jos Hendriks]

The new ME is in development since 2012 and they didn't even reveal the name of it, I've found that really disappointing.

 

You know, making the game is far more interesting and important than locking down its name. 

 

 

I'm a lil frustrated w/ this, tbh. just sum concepts? and still won't speak abt basic setting? or the name? sigh.

 

Not to try and incite a riot, but what makes you think there wasn't a snippet of work in progress in-engine content in there?

[ozthegweat]

Sent a probe then. This is a weak excuse why they wouldn't check up if the reapers won or not

And how would the probe get information back? They don't have Mass Relays in the other galaxy (they were built by the Reapers in the Milky Way). It can't fly back as then the destination would be programmed into the probe, which the Reapers could hack...

 

Wow, we're really getting into the minutiae. I'm convinced that BW will have a fantastic new game for us and the setting will not disappoint, no matter what it will be.

[Salarian Jesus]

You know, making the game is far more interesting and important than locking down its name.

Fair enough. I was really hoping for some concrete details, but hey, I'm happy that we at least got *something*.

Back to 'Patient Mode' for now.

[aznjoez]

I don't see why a direct sequel doesn't seem possible for some people. 

 

A sequel 50+ years, maybe even centuries later.

 

Sure they have to canonize stuff, but they did that plenty of times throughout the trilogy. 

 

And it doesn't matter if the people around Earth can't get back to their home worlds, in the big picture. There is still plenty of people existent in the galaxy who can eventually fix the Relays or develop a new form of travel.

 

I don't understand why people would want the trilogy's story wasted with a reboot (a parallel universe or finding a new galaxy is also a reboot essentially) but don't want their endings or small decisions throughout the current story canonized or not.

[shepskisaac]

And how would the probe get information back? They don't have Mass Relays in the other galaxy (they were built by the Reapers in the Milky Way). It can't fly back as then the destination would be programmed into the probe, which the Reapers could hack...

 

Wow, we're really getting into the minutiae. I'm convinced that BW will have a fantastic new game for us and the setting will not disappoint, no matter what it will be.

Set up QEC cameras then before departing. The technlogy prevents tracking the source on the other end and no distance matters for QEC. Again, there has to be a good reason.

[Medievalist]

Honestly, if the “Ark Theory“ was true, I'd be really pissed. There would be no connection to the old trilogy, except the races maybe. It would be like a new game that had no right to carry Mass Effect in its title.

 

Plus, if you put just a few Krogan couples on the ark, the new colony will be Krogan within a few years at most. The other races woukd have no incentive to take part...

[ElitePinecone]

I'm just saying that the ark would be for nothing if the game is post ME3 because every ending (besides the new one were the reapers win) there is still plenty of living people left. Not saying they shouldn't make an ark because yes, they didn't know the outcome. The ark would get back to our galaxy and see we won.

 

The ARK would only make sense in being the back story for ME next if the reapers won, and those on the ARK could be like the Prothean Javik and warn the next races or start preparing early before the next attack.

 

Additionally, there was plenty of Indoctrinated people before the actual reaper invasion, and they would have to have kept it secret because if the reapers found out, they can probably easily find them, even if they went out of the galaxy, since they are much faster and they came from outside the galaxy in the first place. 

 

It's possible that the ark ship is stuck in the new galaxy, though, and can't get back - which avoids the need to ever talk about the ending, ever again.

 

(I don't know how they'd write it - something about fuel supplies and natural galactic drift?)

 

Then the ark inhabitants in this new galaxy really are the main focus of the series.

[Beerfish]

Sent a probe then. This is a weak excuse why they wouldn't check up if the reapers won or not

So, being a smart group who's goal is to escape the notice of the reapers, head out of the galaxy as quickly and as quietly as possible and to explore and find a new home in case we fail to beat the reapers (which no one has done for thousands if not millions of years) you as the commander of the ark want to send a probe back to check on things and leave bread crumbs to your whereabouts for the reapers to follow.  You'd certainly make good leadership material for this task.

[Usarean]

For a little perspective. The Milky Way Galaxy is huge. This is taken from the wikipedia...

 

The Milky Way is a barred spiral galaxy some 100,000–120,000 light-years in diameter, which contains 100–400 billion stars. It may contain at least as many planets as well.^[21][22] The Solar System is located within the disk, about 27,000 light-years away from the Galactic Center, on the inner edge of one of the spiral-shaped concentrations of gas and dust called the Orion Arm. The stars in the inner ≈10,000 light-years form a bulge and one or more bars that radiate from the bulge. The very center is marked by an intense radio source named, Sagittarius A*, which is likely to be a supermassive black hole.

Stars and gases at a wide range of distances from the Galactic center orbit at approximately 220 kilometers per second. The constant rotation speed contradicts the laws of Keplerian dynamics and suggests that much of the mass of the Milky Way does not emit or absorb electromagnetic radiation. This mass has been given the name “dark matter”.^[23] The rotational period is about 240 million years at the position of the Sun.^[10] The Galaxy as a whole is moving at a velocity of approximately 600 km per second with respect to extragalactic frames of reference. The oldest known star in the Galaxy is at least 13.6 billion years old and thus must have formed shortly after the Big Bang.^[7]

 

To me there seems to be a lot of unexplored space still left without having to leave the galaxy.

[Drone223]

Honestly, if the “Ark Theory“ was true, I'd be really pissed. There would be no connection to the old trilogy, except the races maybe. It would be like a new game that had no right to carry Mass Effect in its title.

 

Plus, if you put just a few Krogan couples on the ark, the new colony will be Krogan within a few years at most. The other races woukd have no incentive to take part...

Yep no need to set it in another galaxy, the galaxy is big enough as it is.

[shepskisaac]

Yep no need to set it in another galaxy, the galaxy is big enough as it is.

Crucible wave was shown to catch the entire galaxy, even unexplored regions

[Beerfish]

Honestly, if the “Ark Theory“ was true, I'd be really pissed. There would be no connection to the old trilogy, except the races maybe. It would be like a new game that had no right to carry Mass Effect in its title.

 

Plus, if you put just a few Krogan couples on the ark, the new colony will be Krogan within a few years at most. The other races woukd have no incentive to take part...

I am 100% happy if there is not connection for the trilogy other than the races.  The old trilogy was effectively ended as we know it by decisions made at the end of ME3.

 

The Krogan issue is easily dealt with.

[Cecilia L]

B-b-but the citadel?  Omega?  Blasto?

 

Asari architecture, turian ships, Earth for goodness sake!!!

[Etocis]

Hey MrDbow, what are your thoughts on this whole reveal?

[shepskisaac]

B-b-but the citadel?  Omega?  Blasto?

 

Asari architecture, turian ships, Earth for goodness sake!!!

It's not like Asari forgot their architecture. Their new colonies/cities in Andromeda galaxy could perfeclty be built with their old arch style

[Cecilia L]

The homeworlds though, Keelah Se'lai.