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#11576
Heimdall

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This is probably a good move for BW. MP and MMOs are clearly something they want to get deeper in to, so having an original IP to explore these games styles will grant them the opportunity to grow in that direction. Myself, I will pass on it, but for those that like MP, MMOS and BW this could be great news.

They tried an MMO, SWTOR, it didn't turn out that well.  I'll believe it when I see it.



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Meh, MMORPG is probably the most risky gaming genre there is today, the chances that this new IP will be a success if it actually is one are very small. I'd prefer coop gameplay in a RPG over an MMORPG 99% of the times anyway. The only one I do play is Guild Wars 2, but I'd still prefer games like Mass Effect and Skyrim over it every day.



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Unless Bioware are building something similar to Destiny and it has subscription fee there is a very strong chance that this new IP will fail. As HenkieDePost pointed out, MMORPG's are very risky right now.

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This is a tad naive and easily said but there are a lot of people that are3 not the type to just 'go out and socialize' or they do but still play games.  There is actually a pretty good social aspect and community for some of these multiplayer games, including ME# mp.

 

I did say it's a matter of personal preference.

 

It's just like, my opinion...                        

 

...man.



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#11581
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Unless Bioware are building something similar to Destiny and it has subscription fee there is a very strong chance that this new IP will fail. As HenkieDePost pointed out, MMORPG's are very risky right now.

 

Do you think there's a small possibility that they might have better information on what will be successful than half a dozen random people on a forum? :P

 

Investing years and tens of millions of dollars on a certain failure is not usually something companies do for no reason. 


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- What were you doing?

- Well, you know, N7ing, nothing special. Have you seen the new blasto movie?

- Oh man, it was completely N7.

 

Mass Effect: Conrad Verner's Revenge confirmed.



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Do you think there's a small possibility that they might have better information on what will be successful than half a dozen random people on a forum? :P

 

Investing years and tens of millions of dollars on a certain failure is not usually something companies do for no reason. 

 

Companies invest tens of millions in new products in the hope of finding a market & turning a profit, but what they are doing is making an educated guess on what will sell based on market research, current trends, etc, now the problem with that is you can do all the market research in the world but your dealing with Joe public, and Joe public is a notoriously fickle beast, games that have all the ingredients for a blockbuster have crashed & burned just because tastes have changed during their development cycle. 

 

There are no garuntees in business when it comes to turning a profit.



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Of course.

 

But I reckon their predictions and expectations are a lot more accurate than people talking about the games industry on an internet forum.



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This is probably a good move for BW. MP and MMOs are clearly something they want to get deeper in to, so having an original IP to explore these games styles will grant them the opportunity to grow in that direction. Myself, I will pass on it, but for those that like MP, MMOS and BW this could be great news.

 

Yeah, good point. I have no idea if I'll like it myself, either, but these knee-jerk reactions to something we know practically nothing about seem premature.

I do think they won't try and simply make another SWtOR game, though. Why put out another cookie-cutter MMO? It seems reasonable to assume they'll do something different with this one. I'm curious to see what it'll be :)



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Oh yeah, more power to 'em. I couldn't play more than ten hours of ME3 MP, though, personally. I might have gotten farther if some of my RL friends could come over and partake... maybe.

That's why I love Nintendo. The last bastion of multiplayer gaming for people like me who genuinely require the presence of others joking about in the same physical space to derive much enjoyment.

Well, that and Zelda. I love them for Zelda, too. But that's irrelevant.

 

 

Bolded the part I agree with wholeheartedly.

Would be awesome to have a Bioware MP-optional RPG where your freinds could either join in RL or VR.....a la Diablo3.....or where you could just solo through it with companions. But with more Bioware story elements and writing. Playing Baulder's Gate on the PS2 is what started me on the road to playing video games....was great having a mob of people over for a weekend to play (much beer and food was consumed, and little sleep was had by all). Remined me of the old PnP days (socially....since BG on PS2 is NOT the same animal as BG on the PC). Although DA:O was what REALLY got me playing.....it was like playing through a chose your own adevnture book (and actually being able to live...I always died in those stupid books). But I will hold off any comments about the new IP until I hear more (still looking forward to it right now though!).

 

I've enjoyed SWTOR. The flashpoints and operations (as mentioned by someone else) were some of my favorite parts of the game. I liked teaming up with others to complete missions. I also really liked the 'group vs group' aspects, kind of like capture the flag.....which I was horrible at, but still had a lot of fun playing (now if we could do those with better coordination between players...that would be good). But for me, I know I wouldn't be interested in a classic MMO. It's kind of hard once you get into the 'real world' to coordinate for online play.....even more so when people live in other time zones.



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Ok, so there have been a number of directions proposed for where the story can go in recent years.  But let's at least filter out the ideas that are the least probable given the words used in the "non-reveal" reveal of the next Mass Effect Game.

The thing to keep in mind here is this: These words were scripted for a purpose:  To communicate to us what to expect in a general sense; however, to be vague enough to allow them some flexibility.  Whenever it comes to this sort of thing, I feel like we have to decode the cypher of PR Speak.

 

In the video and in subsequent interviews, we keep hearing the following phrases/words/themes:

 

  1. "Move forward"
  2. "Exploration"
  3. "a whole New region of space"

 

 

To me, this means:

 

  1. NO prequel - You can't "move forward" time-wise or story-wise if you're looking BACK.  Also, related to the idea of "newness" and discovery.  How can you discover something that you already know about from the first trilogy.
  2. A return to the "feeling of wonder" I got when I was allowed to discover planets, etc.  Yes, even in the Mako. LOL.  "continue onto the horizon"...open world?
  3. Leaving the Milky Way.  He said a WHOLE NEW REGION.  This tells me that we will go somewhere unfamiliar.  We already know the regions w/in the Milky Way (e.g. Terminus Systems, Alliance Space, Inner Council Space, etc.)

 

If I recall correctly, many of these same phrases were used when Aaron Flynn was interviewed by Geoff Keighley during the conference.  So there mere repetition of this message cements this in my head. 



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what if this is a reaper carcass... (NOT AN ORIGINAL IDEA FROM ME, but one that I found compelling and scintillating).

 

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Now, IF this is the case, then this could signal that at least part of the game does take place in familiar territory post-Reaper War.



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  1. Leaving the Milky Way.  He said a WHOLE NEW REGION.  This tells me that we will go somewhere unfamiliar.  We already know the regions w/in the Milky Way (e.g. Terminus Systems, Alliance Space, Inner Council Space, etc.)

The known regions of the Milky Way in the ME-verse take up less than 1% of the galaxy.


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what if this is a reaper carcass... (NOT AN ORIGINAL IDEA FROM ME, but one that I found compelling and scintillating).

 

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Now, IF this is the case, then this could signal that at least part of the game does take place in familiar territory post-Reaper War.

I honestly don't think that looks like a Reaper, that strut sticking up on the left looks more like something the Alliance would construct.


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I honestly don't think that looks like a Reaper, that strut sticking up on the left looks more like something the Alliance would construct.

Yeah, that looks like an Alliance ship.



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The known regions of the Milky Way in the ME-verse take up less than 1% of the galaxy.

 

 

Exactly. 

 

I don't understand the notion that the next ME titles need to take place in another galaxy "because we have seen all the Milky Way"

 

If we equate ME 1-3 to exploring and experiencing less than 1% of the galaxy (round up to a full 1% to make it easier), then that means we still would have 297 more Mass Effect games to go before we completely explore all the Milky Way has to offer.


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I don't understand the notion that the next ME titles need to take place in another galaxy "because we have seen all the Milky Way"

 

So far, I haven't read that:
The main argument of the whole "Another Galaxy" thing was because the ending itself affects the entire Milky Way.


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Heimdall

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So far, I haven't read that:
The main argument of the whole "Another Galaxy" thing was because the ending itself affects the entire Milky Way.

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So far, I haven't read that:
The main argument of the whole "Another Galaxy" thing was because the ending itself affects the entire Milky Way.

 

That makes slightly more sense, but still, throwing away >99% of a pre-established setting in favor of a completely new one just because of the endings seems like a waste. I know some people don't want to see a canonized ending, but what has happened in ME 3 is going to be dealt with sooner or later, I would rather BioWare rip the band-aid off quickly then sitting there with a storm cloud looming over all future endeavors.

 

Besides, even if the new title were set in another galaxy, there is no way that they could show us all 100% of it in three games; and really any new aliens, and regions of space could easily fit into the unexplored reaches of the Milky Way.


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Leaving the Milky Way.  He said a WHOLE NEW REGION.  This tells me that we will go somewhere unfamiliar.  We already know the regions w/in the Milky Way (e.g. Terminus Systems, Alliance Space, Inner Council Space, etc.)

We don't need to leave the galaxy to do that.
There are more than 99 billion of stars unexplored in the Milky Way.


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That makes slightly more sense, but still, throwing away >99% of a pre-established setting in favor of a completely new one just because of the endings seems like a waste. I know some people don't want to see a canonized ending, but what has happened in ME 3 is going to be dealt with sooner or later, I would rather BioWare rip the band-aid off quickly then sitting there with a storm cloud looming over all future endeavors.

 

Besides, even if the new title were set in another galaxy, there is no way that they could show us all 100% of it in three games; and really any new aliens, and regions of space could easily fit into the unexplored reaches of the Milky Way.

The problem is, Bioware put themselves in that corner and if they want to keep their word, I see 2 options:

A) Empty Hole: Sometimes, a relay can be moved out/destroyed, so there may be a chance that there was a "hole" during the explosion. The good thing of this is that it doesn't involve the whole explanation of how we moved to another galaxy. The bad, sooner or later there will be contact with the rest of the Milky Way, and the ending issue will pop out again.

B ) Go to another galaxy and avoid completely the ending issue, that's the good thing... The bad is explaining how we get there without sounding like complete BS. Of course, we won't see the entire place in one trilogy, and I can see the perfect excuse to make a series of games like Dragon Age.

Personally, I won't care if they decide to maintain their word or not:
It's not the first time a developer decides a canon ending to keep an ip going, in fact, is what I expect more. Choose the ending with the biggest support (Destroy, probably) and use it as a base for the next game.



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but what has happened in ME 3 is going to be dealt with sooner or later

 

That's the point, though - it doesn't have to be. Chronologically ME3 could be the end of that galaxy's timeline, period. Forever. Whatever happened next was already explained by the Extended Cut epilogue videos - rebuilding, ShepReaper protection, or a green techno-utopia. 

 

It was intended to be the end, after all. Mac said ME3 had big decisions precisely because they wouldn't have to import the world into a new story. Casey said right before ME3 launched that he couldn't see any future games being set afterwards. The Stargazer scene was set 10,000 years later, and Extended Cut showed us the consequences of the ending choice in intervals of months, years and centuries. 

 

A new galaxy means they very literally do not have to deal with the consequences of ME3. There's no "sooner or later" if we never see the Milky Way ever again. That story would be done.


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That makes slightly more sense, but still, throwing away >99% of a pre-established setting in favor of a completely new one just because of the endings seems like a waste. I know some people don't want to see a canonized ending, but what has happened in ME 3 is going to be dealt with sooner or later, I would rather BioWare rip the band-aid off quickly then sitting there with a storm cloud looming over all future endeavors.

 

Besides, even if the new title were set in another galaxy, there is no way that they could show us all 100% of it in three games; and really any new aliens, and regions of space could easily fit into the unexplored reaches of the Milky Way.

 I for one would rather throw away the ME3 endings than the entire Milky Way galaxy.


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