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[-Skorpious-]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/PatrickWeekes/status/240653412281233408
"Future DLC plans of any kind depend upon success of Leviathan. If we see that people want SP DLC, can always make more. "

Is this a catch-22? In order to even have a remote chance of new ending options in future DLC's I have to buy Leviathan first? As much as I am interested in the concept Leviathan presents, I haven't purchased the DLC because - 

A) It is ultimately irrelevant in the grand scheme of things
and
Out of sheer principle (aka I do not support the direction BioWare is taking as a company, so spending money on any of their products is a sign of support)

But yeah, unless a future DLC gives players the option to disable the starchild, I don't see myself shelling out 1/6 of the price of a typical game when the end result is still so bitter and unsatisfying. 

Modifié par -Skorpious-, 31 août 2012 - 06:13 .

[Epic777]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

https://twitter.com/...653412281233408
"Future DLC plans of any kind depend upon success of Leviathan. If we see that people want SP DLC, can always make more. "

This is precisely what I expected them to think.

It's DA2 all over again. And it did not end well for that one...

Well Bioware did gamble alot on these endings. All they can do now is accept the good and bad that comes with it.

[Saberchic]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/PatrickWeekes/status/240653412281233408
"Future DLC plans of any kind depend upon success of Leviathan. If we see that people want SP DLC, can always make more. "

While that is understandable from a business perspective, I feel that's completely unfair.

I haven't bought Leviathan, but I would buy a DLC that included ME2 cast as temp squaddies without hesitation.

As Fiery said, people have been asking for Omega and ME2 cast extra missions. We do want more, just maybe not this particular dlc. If BW stops making SP dlc based solely off Leviathan numbers, I feel they are shooting themselves on the foot.

edit:I just can't spell today.

Modifié par Saberchic, 31 août 2012 - 06:33 .

[RenegadeXV]

Saberchic wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/PatrickWeekes/status/240653412281233408
"Future DLC plans of any kind depend upon success of Leviathan. If we see that people want SP DLC, can always make more. "

While that is understandable from a business perspective, I feel that's completely unfair.

I haven't bought Leviathan, but I would buy a DLC that included ME2 cast as temp squaddies without hesitation.

As Fiery said, people have been asking for Omega and ME2 cast extra missions. We do want more, just maybe not this particular dlc. If BW stops making SP dlc based solely off Leviathan numbers, I feel they are shooting themselves on the foot.

edit:I just can't spell today.

People have found Omega files within the Firefight DLC. IsaacShepard posted this thread in the Spoiler forum, which shows some files were found in Leviathan relating to a Citadel DLC.

I think the Omega DLC is going to happen no matter what. The Citadel DLC may depend on the sales of Leviathan and Omega.

[almondroy]

twitter.com/PatrickWeekes/status/240653412281233408
"Future DLC plans of any kind depend upon success of Leviathan. If we see that people want SP DLC, can always make more. "

While I expect resources are already committed to the development of the Omega DLC and the suspected Citadel DLC, I think this tweet applies to anything that wasn't already on the radar as of the game's release back in March (i.e. things like ME2 squad-member-based content)

[Tazzmission]

IsaacShep wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

https://twitter.com/...653412281233408
"Future DLC plans of any kind depend upon success of Leviathan. If we see that people want SP DLC, can always make more. "

Hope Levi sells well then, I need that Omega hub

hopefully people will shut up about the ending and not ruin it for other fans

if theres no other single player dlc do to lack of leviathan sales you can bet im going to be a loose canon on the people who caused it wich were the anti enders


i just feel thanks to those idiots now i cant have anything because they cant catch a clue

Modifié par Tazzmission, 31 août 2012 - 07:06 .

[Vlk3]

almondroy wrote...

twitter.com/PatrickWeekes/status/240653412281233408
"Future DLC plans of any kind depend upon success of Leviathan. If we see that people want SP DLC, can always make more. "

While I expect resources are already committed to the development of the Omega DLC and the suspected Citadel DLC, I think this tweet applies to anything that wasn't already on the radar as of the game's release back in March (i.e. things like ME2 squad-member-based content)

That's bad news, because I'm waiting for some ME2 squadmates love (esp. Thane) before buying other DLCs. Hope the Leviathan sales will be high enough...

[Mims]

Actually, the biggest problem facing ME DLC is not ending hates. Ending haters still care enough to hate. If you look at a lot of the Leviathan reviews, a lot of the chatter was: "Well, ME is over for me already."

For some people, its just that. The game is over. Maybe they weren't satisfied with the endings, or maybe they were. But ultimately if there's no 'reason' for them to purchase it, they won't.

[Tazzmission]

Vlk3 wrote...

almondroy wrote...

twitter.com/PatrickWeekes/status/240653412281233408
"Future DLC plans of any kind depend upon success of Leviathan. If we see that people want SP DLC, can always make more. "

While I expect resources are already committed to the development of the Omega DLC and the suspected Citadel DLC, I think this tweet applies to anything that wasn't already on the radar as of the game's release back in March (i.e. things like ME2 squad-member-based content)

That's bad news, because I'm waiting for some ME2 squadmates love (esp. Thane) before buying other DLCs. Hope the Leviathan sales will be high enough...

the thing with thane though itll be a scriptting nightmare for ovious reasons

i think what they should do regarding dlc is introduce an orgin of the keepers and heck finally show off the keeper tunnels

a dlc for the destroy ending ( you know what i mean)


i would say leave war assets out because its going to just make 95% of the fans angry

just focus on story dlc plain and simple and thats all i want really

[Atakuma]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

https://twitter.com/...653412281233408
"Future DLC plans of any kind depend upon success of Leviathan. If we see that people want SP DLC, can always make more. "

This is precisely what I expected them to think.

It's DA2 all over again. And it did not end well for that one...

Da2 DLC ended because they were working on an expansion that would have cut into the development of DA3, not because of sales. 

[Doommarine23]

Hey guys, welcome to business.

DLC is only made for MP or SP based on if people really want it. No one is going to waste their time and money developing something that will never be bought. This is reality and not unique to ME3. Only time will tell if the endings has truly damaged Mass-Effect 3 to the point of no repair.

Quite possible sadly.

[Iakus]

Mims wrote...

Actually, the biggest problem facing ME DLC is not ending hates. Ending haters still care enough to hate. If you look at a lot of the Leviathan reviews, a lot of the chatter was: "Well, ME is over for me already."

For some people, its just that. The game is over. Maybe they weren't satisfied with the endings, or maybe they were. But ultimately if there's no 'reason' for them to purchase it, they won't.

Yep

[Fiery Phoenix]

Atakuma wrote...

Da2 DLC ended because they were working on an expansion that would have cut into the development of DA3, not because of sales.

I've heard both sides of the argument, so I'm aware of the possibility.

Personally, I find it more convincing that the Exalted March was scrapped because EA wasn't satisfied with the game and its DLC performance.

[Mr.House]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/PatrickWeekes/status/240653412281233408
"Future DLC plans of any kind depend upon success of Leviathan. If we see that people want SP DLC, can always make more. "

La sigh.... I'll be surprised if we even get Omega dlc.

[macrocarl]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Da2 DLC ended because they were working on an expansion that would have cut into the development of DA3, not because of sales.

I've heard both sides of the argument, so I'm aware of the possibility.

Personally, I find it more convincing that the Exalted March was scrapped because EA wasn't satisfied with the game and its DLC performance.

And you're basing this on what exactly?

[xsdob]

So you guys are surprised that a entity who creates content for profit wouldn't make said content if there was not said profit?

[Vertigo_1]

twitter.com/DiscoBabaloo/status/241617943652339713
"Previously unreleased @masseffect #Leviathan music track - now available for d/l at masseffect.bioware.com/downloads/leviathan/"

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 31 août 2012 - 08:32 .

[Grubas]

xsdob wrote...

So you guys are surprised that a entity who creates content for profit wouldn't make said content if there was not said profit?

So you imply that bioware isn't intrested anymore in investing into the franchise, target more customers? That all they do now is cash in on the succes they had with ME1 and 2? Because what BW needs now is regain some trust, you know, long-term-wise... 

[Iakus]

xsdob wrote...

So you guys are surprised that a entity who creates content for profit wouldn't make said content if there was not said profit?

Just saying I hope they aren't going to try to sell orange soda when the demand is for lemon-lime, and then conclude no one's thirsty...

[RenegadeXV]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/DiscoBabaloo/status/241617943652339713
"Previously unreleased @masseffect #Leviathan music track - now available for d/l at masseffect.bioware.com/downloads/leviathan/"

Sweet. Any chance the other tracks will be released?

[Fiery Phoenix]

macrocarl wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Da2 DLC ended because they were working on an expansion that would have cut into the development of DA3, not because of sales.

I've heard both sides of the argument, so I'm aware of the possibility.

Personally, I find it more convincing that the Exalted March was scrapped because EA wasn't satisfied with the game and its DLC performance.

And you're basing this on what exactly?

I'm not basing it on anything; it's simply how EA is known to run its business. They have a track record of such unfortunate eventualities. Not just for individual games, but entire developers.

If they don't think something is going to be viable financially, or if it isn't performing as well as they had expected, they simply scrap it and move on to the next big thing. Doesn't matter if it's DLC, a game, or a whole studio. The strategy itself may make sense, but EA tends to push it to ridiculous lengths.

[sparkyo42]

Tazzmission wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

https://twitter.com/...653412281233408
"Future DLC plans of any kind depend upon success of Leviathan. If we see that people want SP DLC, can always make more. "

Hope Levi sells well then, I need that Omega hub

hopefully people will shut up about the ending and not ruin it for other fans

if theres no other single player dlc do to lack of leviathan sales you can bet im going to be a loose canon on the people who caused it wich were the anti enders


i just feel thanks to those idiots now i cant have anything because they cant catch a clue

Even before the Debacle of the ending, DLC had no appeal to me. The story one way or the other is over, no matter what way you interupt the end it's still the end of Shepard's story, by their own words.

Adding a couple of pages of a novel after I've finished the novel isn't going to draw me back.

As to the rest of your point, the smiley faced devil has said that even Bioware accept that as consumers we all have a choice, I don''t really care about your feelings anymore than you care about mine. I do care about my wallet and my entertainment which is why I'm not buying any of the DLC straight out.

[devSin]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I've heard both sides of the argument, so I'm aware of the possibility.

There is no argument.

There is the truth, as spoken by the people who made the decision, and then there is the fiction spun by people who falsely believe that the DA2 DLC didn't perform well.

[Unschuld]

If Bioware were smart, they'd start hinting at Shepard or another character's story continuing post-ME3. If they want to continue showing us their "art", then they need additional funding, which means giving buyers incentive to continue the story. Maybe even changing or tweaking things that the fans want in order to retain interest...

Telling us, the long term fans, "this is the end of Shepard's story" period was probably the dumbest thing they could have done. If they didn't so flatly state this, then the ambiguity of the Shepard breath scene would have been enough to give them their precious fan speculation and retain interest (even if the rest of the end was still convoluted crap). Even if it was the end, it wouldn't be a lie to simply remain ambiguous until they readied whatever else was next on the story line.

This and many other dumb mistakes may end up sinking the franchise. Bioware is composed of humans though, and we all make mistakes. It just sucks to see such a great story go out this way.