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Yea bloody gamble throwin a big spanner our way, id be pretty content about waiting another 2 years if we had some sorta base to stand on information wise.

Gotta wait till November (DA:I release + N7 day)

 

He probably said years away in order to give him some wiggle room, but at this point a Q4 2015 or Q1 2016 release looks most likely, based on what we know.


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Summary:

-refresh things, spiritual successor
-worked on female rig first, different stature
-years away? may have misspoke?
-what you see may not be in final game
-not so much battle armor
-something to do with N7
-underarmor system; maximum customization and visual aesthetic; as realistic as possible
-really agile Mako; maybe it can hover, jump; point-to-point fast response vehicle; possible customization
-not Mass Effect 4 (dammit); not playing as Shepard, Shepard is not central part of story
-new places to explore, uncharted areas that haven't been discovered before
-aliens present in team; races we know, to some degree, present; new stuff, new races
-no PvP plans, but this 'could change'; cooperation is bigger for Bioware
-make what you find (in the galaxy?) 'your own'
-'not a bad idea' of a Volus outside a suit (!!!!!!!!!!!!)
-main character will be human but they won't discuss other races (playable in whatever way) yet
-nothing solid to say on creatures bigger than thresher maws, but they're looking at it

This one is good enough for the full quote:

Will we be seeing characters like Aria T’Lok again? “We haven’t decided… well, we’ve decided (but aren’t telling yet). The theme is [that] we want to create new experiences for the player, but we still want to bring in elements of what you know and love about the previous trilogy that might include certain characters and it might not. So guaranteed, either way that we end up going you’re going to see a certain amount of the old with the new.” -Mike Gamble


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#12978
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Right now, we know more about the Mako than we do the protagonist.


Hell, we know more about the Mako knockoff than we do about anything else. That's what really concerns me.

And they haven't revealed the title yet because it sounds like they don't have one locked down yet. Just that it's "not Mass Effect 4!", but that's what people will call it until they actually reveal it (it's easier to say "Mass Effect 4" than it is to say "Mass Effect next" or "the next Mass Effect")
 

-years away? may have misspoke?
-what you see may not be in final game

He did not misspeak. If the game was less than two years away, we'd have seen at least some concrete stuff unless they're intentionally trying to blue-ball their fans, which is definitely not a good idea.
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Interesting with the T'Loak thing is that she is someone you are going to have to know about or see during the course of any gameplay taking place in the span of both Shepard and before. She's the Queen of Omega and that kinda means that she's around permanently if you want to set things during that period. She's just... There. Even if you don't go to Omega.



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As far as lack of combat goes, I am ok with this. It's going to make the franchise more girl friendly. My GF likes ME but isn't fussed on the combat side of it. Hell I even got my mum interested in ME and again, she didn't like the combat and found it repetitive. I know there are girl gamers out there who do enjoy combat in games, but I'd suggest if devs want to get more girls into games, combat shouldn't be a primary focus.

 

This isn't to say there should be no combat in ME4. Combat is important to the franchise and for any character with an N7 history, but it shouldn't be the primary focus like it was for Shepard.


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He did not misspeak. If the game was less than two years away, we'd have seen at least some concrete stuff unless they're intentionally trying to blue-ball their fans, which is definitely not a good idea.

 

I think they just want to keep stuff under wraps until DAI releases and have concrete info to give us, because they are a lot more advanced than they let on in that panel. They said back in April they were halfway through, and based on tweets we know they are working on actually building worlds and writing squadmates. They aren't going to trickle stuff out like they did for ME3. DAI is evidence of this. They only want to show stuff in big batches, when they are certain they can face any fan questions and leave them satisfied (or at least have answered the question in a firm manner).

 

Just because a game is less than 2 years away from release doesn't mean we should have concrete info by now. ME3 was unveiled about a year before it's release, and I'm sure it's like that for most video games. The big reveal (the teaser trailer) usually comes 1 - 1 and 1/2 years before release, and then the devs start answering more concrete questions like timeline and setting.


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As far as lack of combat goes, I am ok with this. It's going to make the franchise more girl friendly. My GF likes ME but isn't fussed on the combat side of it. Hell I even got my mum interested in ME and again, she didn't like the combat and found it repetitive. I know there are girl gamers out there who do enjoy combat in games, but I'd suggest if devs want to get more girls into games, combat shouldn't be a primary focus.

 

This isn't to say there should be no combat in ME4. Combat is important to the franchise and for any character with an N7 history, but it shouldn't be the primary focus like it was for Shepard.

I've never met as much "girls" in a game as in ME3MP. Apparently there are a lot of them who enjoy the combat thing.


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Edit - I've decided to retract this post because it unintentionally painted Shermos in a negative light of which I do not feel was fair.

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how interested you are in ME combat has nothing to do with gender.

 

I don't know about that. It's a cliché that boys like action and girls like the more talky stuff, but some clichés are clichés for a reason and hold some degrees of truth. Just compare romantic movies to action movies and who the target audience is.

Gender equality is important, but it's also important we don't get scared of acknowledging that women and men are still different. There are characteristics we can call feminine and others that are masculine and there's nothing wrong with that. There's also nothing wrong with anyone who don't fit the clichés, like women who enjoy the combat in ME (or in an action flick), or men that are more feminine than the average man (I arguably belong in that category). It's all perfectly fine. It's not an insult to female gamers, I think, to propose that they generally are less keen on the combat side of this series.

 

That's just how I see it anyway :)

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So how about them tweets!


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Well, I am a woman an love ME's combat ;)
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And as I said there's nothing wrong with that :)

 

But let's return to tweets or tweet-related discussions.



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I don't think that it's fair to say that females aren't as good at or aren't as used to ME combat, personally. I am male myself, so I can't say anything from my individual experience. But I recently got a friend of mine into ME. She took a while to get used to ME1's combat, but, after some practice, had no issues for the remainder of the trilogy. Another friend of mine has played ME2 and ME3 without issue. She also plays ME3 multiplayer on occasion.
Needless to say, how good you are at/how interested you are in ME combat has nothing to do with gender.

 

You're putting words into my mouth. I never said anything like "females aren't as good at or aren't as used to ME combat". What I said is that women, as a rule, don't enjoy it as much. It's intended as a factual statement without prejudice. Prove me wrong if you can, but don't imply I'm a male chauvinist. What if I said I'm a woman and am in a lesbian relationship? I'm actually a bloke, but you can't assume that.

 

"Gender equality is important, but it's also important we don't get scared of acknowledging that women and men are still different. There are characteristics we can call feminine and others that are masculine and there's nothing wrong with that." - Ajensis

 

Precisely. And these characteristics have evolved through millions of years of biological and social evolution. Gender equality was never, ever meant to imply sameness.

 

Sorry to go off topic, but I had to respond to that one.



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You're putting words into my mouth. I never said anything like "females aren't as good at or aren't as used to ME combat". What I said is that women, as a rule, don't enjoy it as much. It's intended as a factual statement without prejudice. Prove me wrong if you can, but don't imply I'm a male chauvinist. What if I said I'm a woman and am in a lesbian relationship? I'm actually a bloke, but you can't assume that.

 

"Gender equality is important, but it's also important we don't get scared of acknowledging that women and men are still different. There are characteristics we can call feminine and others that are masculine and there's nothing wrong with that." - Ajensis

 

Precisely. And these characteristics have evolved through millions of years of biological and social evolution. Gender equality was never, ever meant to imply sameness.

 

Sorry to go off topic, but I had to respond to that one.

I'm sincerely sorry that my post came across that way. I did not mean to imply anything of the like. That I DID imply that, I'm very sorry for. And I'd like to think that I didn't assume that you were male, or that you were straight. But this is sadly true. However much I hate it and try to fight against it, my mind 'defaults' to posters here being straight white males even though gender, skin colour and sexuality do not matter in the slightest. It's a thing that I think is forced upon our minds in this society when the media we grow up around doesn't represent anyone other than the straight white man particularly well, generally speaking, and of course in my opinion.

 

"Gender equality was never, ever meant to imply sameness." - This, I absolutely agree with. But I also believe that it shouldn't be a thing that crosses our minds that a person is less likely to be interested in something if they are of a certain gender.

 

 

I don't know about that. It's a cliché that boys like action and girls like the more talky stuff, but some clichés are clichés for a reason and hold some degrees of truth. Just compare romantic movies to action movies and who the target audience is.

Gender equality is important, but it's also important we don't get scared of acknowledging that women and men are still different. There are characteristics we can call feminine and others that are masculine and there's nothing wrong with that. There's also nothing wrong with anyone who don't fit the clichés, like women who enjoy the combat in ME (or in an action flick), or men that are more feminine than the average man (I arguably belong in that category). It's all perfectly fine. It's not an insult to female gamers, I think, to propose that they generally are less keen on the combat side of this series.

 

That's just how I see it anyway :)

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So how about them tweets!

"I don't know about that. It's a cliché that boys like action and girls like the more talky stuff, but some clichés are clichés for a reason and hold some degrees of truth. Just compare romantic movies to action movies and who the target audience is." - Here, I'm personally of the opinion that a target audience is simply what you make it. As we have seen, more and more females are attending games and comics conventions each year. Games and comics generally fall into 'action', something that has predominantly been associated with males over the years. And yet there are plenty of female video game/and or comic fans. Some would argue that females are being represented by the two mediums in a progressively more equal way BECAUSE more females are playing/reading them. In my opinion, it's the other way around. If females are represented more equally, I think that it draws more female fans in. In short, I don't think that there's anything to say that 'I'm not into action stuff because I am female', until such tropes are placed there.

As for romance films, I can't comment because they've never appealed to me. Perhaps that's because of the way that media has treated the genre as I grew up. Perhaps you're right and I'm not interested because I'm male. I'm not sure. Based on what I believe, I'd likely opt for the former, but I could be wrong.
 

"That's just how I see it anyway :)" - Thanks a ton for putting this in. It's always nice to read an 'in my opinion', to be reassured that someone doesn't believe that they speak for everyone. This is something that I think that I may have failed in portraying with my original post, and thus I apologise to both you and to Shermos. I will also edit my original post slightly in order to better portray this.

 

I'm going to take a cue from Ajensis and say that this is just the way that I see it, anyway. And as both Ajensis and Shermos have said, I'm very sorry for going off-topic.


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#12989
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I'm sorry I replied so aggressively shadow. I've had to help some of my lady friends deal with relationships with not so nice guys recently and to find myself being put in the same boat as them annoyed me. I've always thought of myself as someone who stands up for women, especially those who can't do it themselves.  


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Don't apologise. Your actions were justified, IMO. Humans can be crappy, and someone implying that you are yourself is not at all fun, even if it wasn't their intent. And I respect you a lot for that last bit. I'm sure it's appreciated by many.
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Here, I'm personally of the opinion that a target audience is simply what you make it. As we have seen, more and more females are attending games and comics conventions each year.

 

Ah yes, that was a poor choice of words, sorry. I just meant what genre each gender statistically was more likely to watch :) I definitely don't think that expectations of target audiences should have anything to say.

 

Thanks a ton for putting this in. It's always nice to read an 'in my opinion', to be reassured that someone doesn't believe that they speak for everyone. This is something that I think that I may have failed in portraying with my original post, and thus I apologise to both you and to Shermos.

 

No problem, and I don't think you have anything to apologise for ^_^ it should be implied that every forum post is a small opinion piece (unless it's only about factual information, of course). But yeah, sometimes it's helpful to throw it in anyway.

Your introspection was nice to see, though. It's not something you often come across on a forum and you have my respect for it!

 

I'm sorry I replied so aggressively shadow. 

 

Would it be too cheesy to suggest a digital group hug at this point? :P

 

Right, now I'll leave this thread to its intended purpose, I promise!



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I'm in. *group hug initiated* :P
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As far as lack of combat goes, I am ok with this. It's going to make the franchise more girl friendly. My GF likes ME but isn't fussed on the combat side of it. Hell I even got my mum interested in ME and again, she didn't like the combat and found it repetitive. I know there are girl gamers out there who do enjoy combat in games, but I'd suggest if devs want to get more girls into games, combat shouldn't be a primary focus.

 

 

With all due respect, but if the price of being politically correct is less combat, equality can take a hike.

 

This is a Science Fiction RPG in which some of its unique elements are biotics, pew pew guns and detonations. It's based on combat.

 

Also it's insulting to say that girls don't like combat, as if men are somehow wired to be bloodthirsty.



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Arghhh cmon lads were gonna get this topic closed if this keeps up

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Girls play video games????

 

("That was a joke"...said in Edi's voice)



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Barrett Rodych @ForgedPixels 

Bug tracker software is down, project is over, no more bugs. Our work here is done.


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Barrett Rodych ‏@ForgedPixels 

Bug tracker software is down, project is over, no more bugs. Our work here is done.

 

September 2014 release CONFIRMED.



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Barrett Rodych @ForgedPixels 

Bug tracker software is down, project is over, no more bugs. Our work here is done.

But what if the Bug tracker software is bugged? :o


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.....Bugception? 



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I guess you could say that a certain IP is an ever shifting front.