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[The Elder King]

It's still pretty much the same thing. They're not restarting the series now, they've been banging on about moving forwards not going backwards.
 
If it's a reboot/restart, I'll eat my hat. But it won't be, so I'm fine.

Depends. At the moment I think the leak is More likely then a sequel to ME3.

[The Arbiter]

With 'Andromeda' I meant the leak, which has new character.

it still depends. If Bioware acknowledges the existence of the Reaper war when this new "character" moved to Andromeda it's still a sequel just "hand waiving" the past installments somewhat acknowledging them without wasting too much time dwelling on it while giving us something fresh basically hitting two birds with one stone.

[The Elder King]

it still depends. If Bioware acknowledges the existence of the Reaper war when this new "character" moved to Andromeda it's still a sequel just "hand waiving" the past installments somewhat acknowledging them without wasting too much time dwelling on it while giving us something fresh basically hitting two birds with one stone.

I doubt they won't aknowledge the existence of the Reaper War.

[dreamgazer]

Did you guys ever land on a definition for a "restart" that actually made sense and wasn't just another way of saying "reboot" or "alternate universe"?

[The Elder King]

Did you guys ever land on a definition for a "restart" that actually made sense and wasn't just another way of saying "reboot" or "alternate universe"?

I just think people have different opinions in how 'restart', 'reboot', and 'AU' Are defined.

[Iakus]

I just think people have different opinions in how 'restart', 'reboot', and 'AU' Are defined.

To me:

 

Restart:  Shepard's story is never referenced.  At least not directly.

Reboot:  Start Shepard's story over again, but do it differently this time.

AU: The Shepard trilogy happened, But canonically happened in ways the games never allowed for.

[The Elder King]

To me:

Restart: Shepard's story is never referenced. At least not directly.
Reboot: Start Shepard's story over again, but do it differently this time.
AU: The Shepard trilogy happened, But canonically happened in ways the games never allowed for.

I agree with those definitions.
What do you mean with directly though? Seeing the outcome of the war? Dialogues that explain the events of the trilogy?

[dreamgazer]

To me:

Restart: Shepard's story is never referenced. At least not directly.
Reboot: Start Shepard's story over again, but do it differently this time.
AU: The Shepard trilogy happened, But canonically happened in ways the games never allowed for.

That's the clearest I've seen it conveyed, but you're still running into the same narrative design choices with said restart and AU.

Restart is just a polite, vague way of saying AU. Course, it all depends on how far into the future they go.

[Iakus]

I agree with those definitions.
What do you mean with directly though? Seeing the outcome of the war? Dialogues that explain the events of the trilogy?

 

Things like the Reaper War happened, but not saying how it was resolved.  Keeping the Citadel orbiting Earth,  News reports on the reclamation of Palaven or repairs to the relay network.

 

Maybe mention the discovery of a garden world really close to Sol which had somehow escaped being noticed until very recently 

 

Edit @dreamgazer:  I'd say "restart" is only AU if you want it to be AU.  It goes out of it's way to not mention stuff that happened so the player can fill in whatever blanks you want.

 

I'd say it would be very difficult to pull off, though, given the massive amounts of potential divergence by the end of the trilogy, though.  With AU, it all gets tossed out the window and a single timeline is set in stone.

[The Elder King]

Things like the Reaper War happened, but not saying how it was resolved.  Keeping the Citadel orbiting Earth,  News reports on the reclamation of Palaven or repairs to the relay network.
 
Maybe mention the discovery of a garden world really close to SOl which had somehow escaped being noticed until very recently 

Understood.

[DextroDNA]

Not necessarily a sequel could just mean it's not a sequel to Shepard's story, but it could still be set after 2186. So it's not a sequel to ME3, but it's set after the events of the Reaper War and totally unrelated to events of the trilogy.

 

Definition of a sequel: A sequel (also known as a follow-up) is a narrative, documental, or other work of literature, film, theatre, television, music, or game that continues the story of, or expands upon, some earlier work.

 

So as long as it's not continuing or expanding upon the Shepard/Reaper story, it's not a sequel - but still a sequel in terms of chronology. That sounds like it fits the bill of "not necessarily a sequel".

[dreamgazer]

Not necessarily a sequel could just mean it's not a sequel to Shepard's story, but it could still be set after 2186. So it's not a sequel to ME3, but it's set after the events of the Reaper War and totally unrelated to events of the trilogy.

Yup. And the further they move ahead in the timeline, the less of a sequel it becomes.

[Iakus]

Not necessarily a sequel could just mean it's not a sequel to Shepard's story, but it could still be set after 2186. So it's not a sequel to ME3, but it's set after the events of the Reaper War and totally unrelated to events of the trilogy.

The problem is the events of the Reaper War and the repercussions span the galaxy.  And perhaps beyond.  Even "Ark THeory" in every version I've heard is connected to the War.  EIther as a means to escape it or a result of technology gained by it.

 

It would be very, very hard to tell a story set after these events and not refer to the events somehow.  Though I'd certainly be receptive to a story that managed it.

[DextroDNA]

The problem is the events of the Reaper War and the repercussions span the galaxy.  And perhaps beyond.  Even "Ark THeory" in every version I've heard is connected to the War.  EIther as a means to escape it or a result of technology gained by it.

 

It would be very, very hard to tell a story set after these events and not refer to the events somehow.  Though I'd certainly be receptive to a story that managed it.

It can still refer to the events and not be a continuation of the story. The story could be about pirates looking for space-treasure which obviously wouldn't be a sequel, but they could name-drop Shepard or mention the recent war and that wouldn't automatically make it a sequel.

 

They don't need to ignore the events of the trilogy, they just need to not continue its story.

[cap and gown]

We need some show-and-tell tweets to get this thread back on topic. It is Friday, after all. Jos, where are you? Busy showing-and-telling no doubt.

[Barrett Rodych]

We need some show-and-tell tweets to get this thread back on topic. It is Friday, after all. Jos, where are you? Busy showing-and-telling no doubt.

They're only once a month. More time for us to actually make things to show and tell about!

[Jos Hendriks]

We need some show-and-tell tweets to get this thread back on topic. It is Friday, after all. Jos, where are you? Busy showing-and-telling no doubt.

 

What Barrett said, and I'm taking a break from Twitter. 

[VFerreira93]

SNEAK PEEK. FRIDAY. #MassEffect pic.twitter.com/jEYiaTzE1b
— ThinkGeek Solutions (@ThinkGeekCO) June 3, 2015

 

Omg I can't wait!!!

 

P.S. Sorry, I don't know how to post tweets like you guys do.

 

Apparently, it's a limited/signed edition lithograph of Kaidan (limited to 500 copies). See more here 

[GalacticWolf5]

Apparently, it's a limited/signed edition lithograph of Kaidan (limited to 500 copies). See more here

Yeah I just saw it. Exactly what I was expecting. About time they make something about Kaidan! Over all it looks nice, but am I the only one who thinks the whole nose area looks a bit weird?

[The Arbiter]

Not necessarily a sequel could just mean it's not a sequel to Shepard's story, but it could still be set after 2186. So it's not a sequel to ME3, but it's set after the events of the Reaper War and totally unrelated to events of the trilogy.

 

Definition of a sequel: A sequel (also known as a follow-up) is a narrative, documental, or other work of literature, film, theatre, television, music, or game that continues the story of, or expands upon, some earlier work.

 

So as long as it's not continuing or expanding upon the Shepard/Reaper story, it's not a sequel - but still a sequel in terms of chronology. That sounds like it fits the bill of "not necessarily a sequel".

We are basically back in circles again.... so again WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THE MILKYWAY? pfftt there will be no MILKYWAY WE ARE RUNNING AWAY FROM IT CUZ ANDROMEDA BEACHHHHEEESSSSSS!

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Guys, We can wait 10 more days. Come on.

240 hours

14,400 minutes

864,000 seconds

[Hrungr]

Michael Gamble ‏@GambleMike

Biggest #E32015 prediction?

 

Barrett Rodych ‏@ForgedPixels

Krogan Kart Racing reveal

[dreamgazer]

Had they tried a little harder with the ME3 endings, and maybe / perhaps hired a writer with an IQ of say .....  something slightly higher than a dead houseplant they would not be in this fustercluck.

Do you consider Drew Karpyshyn, the original writer of this series, to have such an IQ? Because his dark energy concept would have left the series in an even worse predicament.

But that's neither here nor there. The ending could have been the most masterful piece of writing ever created, yet had it featured any kind of significant divergence or final choice whatsoever (like both the previous ME games), the writers would have to deal with the consequences in the next game.