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[Valkyrja]

BioWare might throw the vocal minority a bone like they did with the FemShep marketing for ME3 again but I wouldn't be surprised if the marketing is still male focused since 80+% of their players played as a male PC.

[von uber]

Be interesting to see the stats for da:I. I'm slightly dubious of the value of those me3 stats (as it implies for example the vast majority of players never meet wrex for example; nor does it seem to account for multiple play throughs or those who played after that date).

[dreamgazer]

Doesn't surprise me. Wrex is dead/MIA in the ME2 and ME3 default states.

[Chala]

They should go with a human wearing a badass armor, with no signs about the gender of the person, Samus Aran style.

[Valkyrja]

Be interesting to see the stats for da:I. I'm slightly dubious of the value of those me3 stats (as it implies for example the vast majority of players never meet wrex for example; nor does it seem to account for multiple play throughs or those who played after that date).

 

ME2 was a little under 20% for FemShep as well.

 

BioWare released the ME3 statistics in March 2013 so they're almost certainly capturing a large majority of playthroughs.

[-273]

Come here once a week looking for updates and have to shift through this garbage, geeze louise. Crayon eaters, the lot of yous'.

[tehturian]

Jokes on you for thinking there's going to be updates. 

[chris2365]

Come here once a week looking for updates and have to shift through this garbage, geeze louise. Crayon eaters, the lot of yous'.

 

Jokes on you for thinking there's going to be updates. 

 

Well, you guys aren't that far off the mark. Give it a week and we'll (hopefully) be swimming in updates thanks to E3 

[BabyPuncher]

Gotta love the dudebros who ~don't care~ for three games that Sheploo gets all the attention then absolutely freak out and start screaming about "female superiority" when it's suggested that Bioware make a female character the centre of the advertising for once. Pretty ~cool~ that all those dudes are demanding "equality" now that somebody is proposing a female cover, and not for the last ten years when it was all maleShep.

Is there a camp for people who really do not goddamn care if there's a woman on the cover, but are irritated over people's inability to shut the hell up about it?

It would be nice if BioWare put a woman in the cover already without the incessant squealing and gratuitous back-patting that comes along with it.

[Torgette]

To me it's not even about "equality", femshep is already equally on par and depending on who you ask better than sheploo anyways. It's more just "hey Bioware you spent all this money and have a really fantastic 50% of your Player Character resources locked away in something you don't advertise and nobody knows about, maybe you should do something about that?".

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

BioWare might throw the vocal minority a bone like they did with the FemShep marketing for ME3 again but I wouldn't be surprised if the marketing is still male focused since 80+% of their players played as a male PC.

 

The trouble is that this is kinda a self fulfilling prophecy.

 

If you show just one version of shepherd in marketing and on all game covers, and set them a the default, then most people are gonna play them, and fewer women are then likely to play the game, so in turn fewer femsheps get created.

[DextroDNA]

 

 

 

Hahaha the buttrage here is amazing. 

 

Gotta love the dudebros who ~don't care~ for three games that Sheploo gets all the attention then absolutely freak out and start screaming about "female superiority" when it's suggested that Bioware make a female character the centre of the advertising for once. Pretty ~cool~ that all those dudes are demanding "equality" now that somebody is proposing a female cover, and not for the last ten years when it was all maleShep.

 

Newsflash: this is not a plot to deprive you of your games or cultural representations of masculinity. Nobody is implementing a vast feminist conspiracy. There will still be literally an overwhelming majority of men on your videogame covers even if one series chooses to do something different.

 

For the record, I expect them to do something similar to Inquisition and have the character in gender-neutral armour with a helmet on. But the reactions to one suggestion have been absolutely absurd and you seriously need to get some perspective. 

 

Yep, I'm such a "dudebro" and I'm filled with "buttrage" just because I'm having a casual debate about something - I'm not freaking out at all. I've never been against there being equality in the marketing for Mass Effect, I would always have been okay with both Femshep and Maleshep sharing a cover on all 3 games. The only issue I have is that people want it to be completely female instead of it being equal and I can't see how that's any better than having it be completely male because that's not gender equality.

 

I think you've taken this to heart and need to calm the f*** down. I want both males and females in the marketing, as it always should have been. Not one or the other.

[Phoenix_Also_Rises]

I know I am about the least appropriate person to point this out, considering I cannot stick to the subject at hand for more than five seconds without venturing off on a wild random tangent, but - I thought this is the Twitter Thread. I have not seen a single tweet or a discussion thereabout for roughly three pages. I do not want this thread shut down.

 

Please do not make the mods shut this thread down. 

[dreamgazer]

I know I am about the least appropriate person to point this out, considering I cannot stick to the subject at hand for more than five seconds without venturing off on a wild random tangent, but - I thought this is the Twitter Thread. I have not seen a single tweet or a discussion thereabout for roughly three pages. I do not want this thread shut down.
 
Please do not make the mods shut this thread down.

They won't, but yeah. Needs to be reined in.

Last flickers of Twitter info indicates that they're well aware that folks are expecting things of them at E3, and have been coy about it.

[Etocis]

What is going on here? I leave for a couple of days and the thread is ready to tear itself apart again.

[InterrogationBear]

Be interesting to see the stats for da:I.

 

[Shermos]

Yep, I'm such a "dudebro" and I'm filled with "buttrage" just because I'm having a casual debate about something - I'm not freaking out at all. I've never been against there being equality in the marketing for Mass Effect, I would always have been okay with both Femshep and Maleshep sharing a cover on all 3 games. The only issue I have is that people want it to be completely female instead of it being equal and I can't see how that's any better than having it be completely male because that's not gender equality.

 

I think you've taken this to heart and need to calm the f*** down. I want both males and females in the marketing, as it always should have been. Not one or the other.

 

I can see how it would be interesting to focus on the female protagonist when traditionally, it's always a male who gets focused on, but for a game where the player is able to choose to be either male or female, the fact the choice exists needs to be emphasised in the marketing. Mass Effect 3's male and female trailers were on the right track in this regard.

 

I'm not defending EP's tone, but it is a worry that a large number of men seem hostile to the feminist movement in its entirety rather than just the extremists.

[Shermos]

 

Interesting that PC had the greatest proportion of female players. I didn't expect that truthfully. Good!

[pdusen]

To me it's not even about "equality", femshep is already equally on par and depending on who you ask better than sheploo anyways. It's more just "hey Bioware you spent all this money and have a really fantastic 50% of your Player Character resources locked away in something you don't advertise and nobody knows about, maybe you should do something about that?".

You really think people who bought ME didn't see the option to play as a female?

Because I have a pretty clear memory of the first game asking me to pick a gender, explicitly, without even going into the character creator.

I really doubt that advertising this already perfectly obvious feature would change player behavior much.

That said, I don't care about the advertising one way or the other, so do what you want, I guess.

[azarhal]

You really think people who bought ME didn't see the option to play as a female?

Because I have a pretty clear memory of the first game asking me to pick a gender, explicitly, without even going into the character creator.

 

You need to click customize to have the gender selection in ME1. ME2/ME3 save import locked Shepard's gender to the imported save and I believe they also used the customize vs default if you didn't import.

[ElitePinecone]

Indeed.

 

DA: Inquisition randomised the default gender at character creation, which was a pretty cool way of making sure that people knew about both options.  

 

(And which might've been a factor in that game having a significantly higher proportion of female Inquisitors than Mass Effect had femSheps.)

[von uber]

So basically xbone players are a bunch of unimaginative dudebros

[Heimdall]

Keep in mind that not everyone creates characters that match their gender.  I don't.

[MissOuJ]

Interesting that PC had the greatest proportion of female players. I didn't expect that truthfully. Good!

 

I actually vaguely remember some statistic from a couple years back that said that almost half of RPG gamers who play on the PC are female, so that number doesn't actually surprise me all that much.

 

I do wish we would get more ladies on the consoles too, though. Wonder why that is? (( Then again most console ads I've personally seen in TV / theaters have been in connection with some typical "dude" films / programmes and showing typical "dude" games like FIFA / Madden / Racing and CoD - could be a factor )).

 

 

Keep in mind that not everyone creates characters that match their gender.  I don't.

 

Also true. I have about gazillion male Hawkes just because Nicolas Boulton's voice does things to me, whereas I couldn't connect with Wyatt's fem!Hawke for some reason. Then again with ME and DA:I it's the complete opposite: most of my Sheps are femSheps because Jennifer Hale is a treasure (although I like Mark too), and in DA:I I completely fell in love with Alix's voice, and she's the only Inquisitor for me. Not to mention that some people just prefer one over the other for other varying reasons.

 

It depends on so many issues.

[DextroDNA]

So basically xbone players are a bunch of unimaginative dudebros

Yep, picking a male character is so "unimaginative". Jesus, this s*** has to stop